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by SpaceshipDC10
Wed May 06, 2020 12:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: El Al 789 flying over France at 9,000ft. Why?
Replies: 11
Views: 5139

El Al 789 flying over France at 9,000ft. Why?

https://www.flightradar24.com/ELY232/2474ba88
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It's departed LGG, flew west then south since entering France's airspace. .

https://www.flightradar24.com/ELY232/2474ba88

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by SpaceshipDC10
Tue May 05, 2020 3:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Canadian Airports 2020 Statistics
Replies: 111
Views: 15396

Re: Canadian Airports 2020 Statistics

MONTREAL YUL February 2020 Total: 1,529,526 +6.8% - Domestic: 490,533 +3.3% - International: 686,126 +10% - TB: 352,867 +5.7% March 2020 Total: 921,162 -46.2% - Domestic: 295,333 -46.2% - International: 418,677 -43.1% - TB: 207,152 -51.5% Q1 Total: 4,045,300 -13.5% - Domestic: 1,276,753 -15.7% - In...

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by SpaceshipDC10
Mon May 04, 2020 10:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada News And Discussion Thread - 2020
Replies: 1145
Views: 87003

Re: Air Canada announced for Q1 2020 a $1.05B loss + retirement of 79 older aircraft

So, if the B767 is gone this year that will mark 37 years of operations on the 767 at AC. I am thinking off-the-top of my head, has there been any type at AC operated for that length of time The closest I can come to is the DC-9 with 36 years Jan 1966 - Jan 2002. The series 10 from 1966 and the ser...

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by SpaceshipDC10
Mon May 04, 2020 3:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada News And Discussion Thread - 2020
Replies: 1145
Views: 87003

Re: Air Canada announced for Q1 2020 a $1.05B loss + retirement of 79 older aircraft

Dominion301 wrote:
My guess is TS will become the new Rouge and Rouge will be gone for good.


I tend to think that too. Keeping the brand could have a good impact on their current regular flyers and in Québec. However, would they keep the current tight configurations?

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by SpaceshipDC10
Mon May 04, 2020 3:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada News And Discussion Thread - 2020
Replies: 1145
Views: 87003

Re: Air Canada announced for Q1 2020 a $1.05B loss + retirement of 79 older aircraft

https://www.planespotters.net/airline/Air-Canada-Rouge
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jeffrey0032j wrote:
Guess Amazon and/or CAM will be interested in some of Rouge's 767s. More choice for them with AA and AC offloading their 767s.


With an average age of 23, some are in their late 20s early 30s, I guess these could be acquired cheaply.

https://www.planespotters.net/airline/Air-Canada-Rouge

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by SpaceshipDC10
Mon May 04, 2020 12:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada News And Discussion Thread - 2020
Replies: 1145
Views: 87003

Re: Air Canada announced for Q1 2020 a $1.05B loss + retirement of 79 older aircraft

bmibaby737 wrote:
That's a huge effect on Air Canada Rouge!


I haven't searched for confirmation, but will Rouge remain? And since there's still the pending Transat A.T. deal with many A332s, that's a way to possibly simplify the fleet.

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by SpaceshipDC10
Mon May 04, 2020 11:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada News And Discussion Thread - 2020
Replies: 1145
Views: 87003

Re: Air Canada announced for Q1 2020 a $1.05B loss + retirement of 79 older aircraft

https://aircanada.mediaroom.com/2020-05 ... 20-Results
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Dutchy wrote:
So which a/c are going to go.


accelerating the retirement of 79 older aircraft from its fleet – Boeing 767, Airbus 319 and Embraer 190 aircraft


https://aircanada.mediaroom.com/2020-05 ... 20-Results

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by SpaceshipDC10
Mon May 04, 2020 11:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada News And Discussion Thread - 2020
Replies: 1145
Views: 87003

Air Canada announced for Q1 2020 a $1.05B loss + retirement of 79 older aircraft

"Operating revenue fell to $3.72 billion compared with $4.43 billion in the year ago quarter." "Air Canada is also accelerating the retirement of 79 older aircraft in a move that it says will simplify the airline's fleet, reduce costs structure and lower its carbon footprint." ht...

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by SpaceshipDC10
Mon May 04, 2020 10:27 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: CF6-50 start: what is that sound?
Replies: 13
Views: 2475

Re: CF6-50 start: what is that sound?

Ok, that very clear, thanks. Btw, is it the rotating fan that is producing the so characteristic sound of the CF6-50? Are you thinking about the initial start sequence with the whine? It's all present from CF6-6s all the way up to -80E1s (+LM2500) from the videos I heard. No, it's the high-pitched ...

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by SpaceshipDC10
Sun May 03, 2020 7:35 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: CF6-50 start: what is that sound?
Replies: 13
Views: 2475

Re: CF6-50 start: what is that sound?

The noise "growl" you hear at about the 50 sec mark is the harmonics of the flame front when the fuel is introduced. You can see the condensation from the air starter up until the turbine becomes self sufficient to accelerate rotational speed up to idle and the starter is dropped out. Ok,...

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by SpaceshipDC10
Sun May 03, 2020 1:05 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: CF6-50 start: what is that sound?
Replies: 13
Views: 2475

CF6-50 start: what is that sound?

https://youtu.be/cQH48XCQJDs
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It's about at mid-lendth of the video, when the engine is spining ever faster. What produces that growl? I've often wondered when t was more common to hear it.


https://youtu.be/cQH48XCQJDs

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by SpaceshipDC10
Sat May 02, 2020 8:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Question on Iberia and Aerolineas Argentinas livery
Replies: 24
Views: 5555

Re: Question on Iberia and Aerolineas Argentinas livery

[quote="Polot"]In reality though it was just Spanish taxpayers subsiding the South American airlines because IB really had no idea what they were doing (IB itself was hardly well run at the time and themselves had to be bailed out in the mid-90s) and by the time IB had better management AR...

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by SpaceshipDC10
Sat May 02, 2020 7:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: "Air Canada anticipates return of worldwide air travel by Christmas" (CBC)
Replies: 52
Views: 8369

"Air Canada anticipates return of worldwide air travel by Christmas" (CBC)

An Air Canada vice president suggests that by the time winter holidays roll around again, Canadians will be able to board his company's planes and fly almost anywhere in the world. But Tim Strauss said he knows that one of the biggest tasks involved in bringing air travel back to life after pandemi...

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by SpaceshipDC10
Sat May 02, 2020 9:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Question on Iberia and Aerolineas Argentinas livery
Replies: 24
Views: 5555

Re: Question on Iberia and Aerolineas Argentinas livery

Hi. Was looking through some old pictures from the late 90s at Madrid and noticed that the livery on the Iberia and Aerolineas Argentinas 747 wore a very similar livery, lines along fuselage and white tail with logo. A question then arose on why this was, if it was just a coincident for the similar...

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by SpaceshipDC10
Fri May 01, 2020 10:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's up with Southern Air's 77F stored at LEJ?
Replies: 14
Views: 4150

Re: What's up with Southern Air's 77F stored at LEJ?

One can say Southern really needed it.

Since April 24th it has flown as follow:

HKG-LAX-LEJ-HKG

HKG-ANC-JFK-CVG-ICN

ICN-HKG-ANC-JFK-ORD

ORD-ICN-HKG

HKG-ANC-JFK

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by SpaceshipDC10
Fri May 01, 2020 9:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Canadian Airports 2020 Statistics
Replies: 111
Views: 15396

Re: Canadian Airports 2020 Statistics

The article also implies (like most other airports) they have closed a lot of the terminal. As evidence of this, it cites how all pax are using the single security screening lane that is normally reserved for airport staff and aircrews located away from the pax screening. Airports that temporarily ...

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by SpaceshipDC10
Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France 777F’s
Replies: 30
Views: 4679

Re: Air France 777F’s

Are you sure they launched the original 747-400F ? It was built in 1995 and at the time AF still had some pretty recent 747-200F. According to this article, Boeing "had" Air France in mind but they never actually ordered 747-400F until the ERF. https://cargofacts.com/video/30-years-of-car...

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by SpaceshipDC10
Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Caraïbes Launching ORY-CUN
Replies: 2
Views: 511

Re: Air Caraïbes Launching ORY-CUN

Not only does it reinstate competition out of Paris on that route, but it also provide a service from Orly, whereas it used to be CDG only.

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by SpaceshipDC10
Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Canadian Airports 2020 Statistics
Replies: 111
Views: 15396

Re: Canadian Airports 2020 Statistics

In keeping with the wipeout in traffic theme, YQB are reporting in this Radio-Canada (in French) article, that a 'good day' sees 30 departing pax. The average lately has been 10-20/day. That translates in a drop of around 99%. Is it still worth to keep it open for so few passengers? It's not like t...

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by SpaceshipDC10
Wed Apr 29, 2020 4:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France 777F’s
Replies: 30
Views: 4679

Re: Air France 777F’s

For one thing, buying cargo planes isn't like buying a car. You don't buy them then realize you can't fit your stuff in it. Pallet contour is a major aspect of cargo. I just don't see how AF would have bought 777F, then been surprised that 747F sized pallets didn't fit. And then somehow the next st...

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by SpaceshipDC10
Wed Apr 29, 2020 2:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France 777F’s
Replies: 30
Views: 4679

Re: Air France 777F’s

I might be wrong but I seem to remember something about troubles regarding the containers used on the 747Fs that couldn't fit in the 777Fs. Air France found they could not directly interline main deck pallets between the 747-400 and 777 freighter fleets because they were configuring their 747 palle...

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by SpaceshipDC10
Tue Apr 28, 2020 8:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Western Airlines Chieftain Liveries
Replies: 46
Views: 5810

Re: Western Airlines Chieftain Liveries

Although it would have been nice to see a 747-147 in the Chieftan livery, Western's 1970 annual report has the swizzle stick logo on it, so the 747s would almost certainly have been delivered in the swizzle stick scheme. I guess so. First delivery was expected for October 1970. Don't know for the o...

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by SpaceshipDC10
Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France 777F’s
Replies: 30
Views: 4679

Re: Air France 777F’s

Does anyone remember why it was not a success for them and where these airframes went ? I might be wrong but I seem to remember something about troubles regarding the containers used on the 747Fs that couldn't fit in the 777Fs. They had at least five on order but only three delivered. As mentioned,...

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by SpaceshipDC10
Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways DC-10 in early 1980s?
Replies: 87
Views: 15034

Re: British Airways DC-10 in early 1980s?

I'd love to see a picture of that! https://www.airliners.net/search?aircraftBasicType=2415&airline=13469&sortBy=dateAccepted&sortOrder=desc&perPage=36&display=detail Those are CF6s, not GE90s... LOL! I didn't read further than GE without noticing the mistake, twice. Gosh :banghe...

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by SpaceshipDC10
Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did Wardair retire/sell their 747-200s instead of the older -100s?
Replies: 16
Views: 5579

Re: Why did Wardair retire/sell their 747-200s instead of the older -100s?

longhauler wrote:
But don’t forget, WD’s configuration was only 196 passengers in a two class layout. Then 188 when the J sleeper seats were installed.


Oh yes, there's that. WD wasn't cramming as many people on board as later airlines with their 250 to 264 configurations such as 2T, QN and TS.

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by SpaceshipDC10
Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways DC-10 in early 1980s?
Replies: 87
Views: 15034

Re: British Airways DC-10 in early 1980s?

https://www.airliners.net/search?aircra ... lay=detail
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BlueberryWheats wrote:
amc737 wrote:
Of the 5 British Caledonian 747s, I believe 4 were GE90 powered


I'd love to see a picture of that!


https://www.airliners.net/search?aircra ... lay=detail

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by SpaceshipDC10
Tue Apr 28, 2020 10:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways DC-10 in early 1980s?
Replies: 87
Views: 15034

Re: British Airways DC-10 in early 1980s?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_C ... f_fortunes
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Flyingsottsman wrote:
Did BCAL have to merge with BA, could they have still been around today if they didn't?


I don't think so. I link the Wikipedia page, but I've read before that they were having a hard time not long before it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_C ... f_fortunes

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by SpaceshipDC10
Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did Wardair retire/sell their 747-200s instead of the older -100s?
Replies: 16
Views: 5579

Re: Why did Wardair retire/sell their 747-200s instead of the older -100s?

But, internally, a longer range version was always required, of either type. The base need was LGW-YVR. Of course, with such base need the A312 couldn't fit in their requirement. Were the -304s capable to handle it without restrictions? When the 747-200s were sold, it was at a profit. Just like abo...

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by SpaceshipDC10
Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways DC-10 in early 1980s?
Replies: 87
Views: 15034

Re: British Airways DC-10 in early 1980s?

eta unknown wrote:
The BCal 742's were a rag tag bunch, but IIRC most had GE engines,


Yes, four out of five. Two former RJ and two former WD.

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by SpaceshipDC10
Mon Apr 27, 2020 5:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Canadian Airports 2020 Statistics
Replies: 111
Views: 15396

Re: Canadian Airports 2020 Statistics

Calgary YYC
March 2020 & Q1

Domestic : 538,369 -44,6% / 2,293,014 -18.1%

Transborder : 154,409 -51,4% / 716,571 -16.4%

International : 110,485 -43.2% / 462,756 -17.2%

Total : 803,263 -45,9% / 3,472,341 -16,6%

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by SpaceshipDC10
Mon Apr 27, 2020 1:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways DC-10 in early 1980s?
Replies: 87
Views: 15034

Re: British Airways DC-10 in early 1980s?

Six of the eight DC-10-30s were bought new from McDonnell Douglas and the other two were probably set up the same way after purchase. They were operating some long routes (e.g. LAX but also Southern Africa) where a 747 might have been overkill. Plus the BCal 747s were a rag-tag of secondhand acquis...

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by SpaceshipDC10
Mon Apr 27, 2020 11:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did Wardair retire/sell their 747-200s instead of the older -100s?
Replies: 16
Views: 5579

Re: Why did Wardair retire/sell their 747-200s instead of the older -100s?

The Wardair A310 order is possibly involved in the Karlheinz Schreiber / "Airbus Affair" which involved Air Canada's A320 order. Wardair had ordered and canceled the A310 once already, then put options in on 767-200ERs, before dropping those and ordering 12 A310-300s. https://www.thecanad...

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by SpaceshipDC10
Sun Apr 26, 2020 2:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did Wardair retire/sell their 747-200s instead of the older -100s?
Replies: 16
Views: 5579

Re: Why did Wardair retire/sell their 747-200s instead of the older -100s?

C- FTOB an ex AIr Canada machine also had a short stint with Wardair It came in when the first -200B left, and remained until the end. The 3 DC10s were also to leave the fleet in 1989 They left between May '88 and April '89s. The replacement fleet would be 3 A300s primarily for trunk domestic I alw...

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by SpaceshipDC10
Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did Wardair retire/sell their 747-200s instead of the older -100s?
Replies: 16
Views: 5579

Re: Why did Wardair retire/sell their 747-200s instead of the older -100s?

Interesting details here. I knew WD was about to transition to scheduled services with smaller aircraft, but I didn't consider the two -211Bs were sold for that matter. C- FDJC remained in Canada and moved to Nationair on collapse (Did you know this frame has an unusual distinction in changing its B...

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by SpaceshipDC10
Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why did Wardair retire/sell their 747-200s instead of the older -100s?
Replies: 16
Views: 5579

Why did Wardair retire/sell their 747-200s instead of the older -100s?

The picture below triguered the question. 5985933 Back in 1986/87, Wardair removed from their fleet the two 742s they had received brand new less than ten years earlier. They were both newer and GE-powered compared to the -100s, which could count as fleet simplification since they had then DC-10s an...

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by SpaceshipDC10
Fri Apr 24, 2020 10:56 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Flightradar24 Anomalies
Replies: 11
Views: 2025

Re: Flightradar24 Anomalies

I can't see this covered elsewhere, but apologies if I've missed it. Over the last couple of months I've noticed a very large increase in the number of flights shown on FR24 with erroneous route details. A particularly frequent one appears to be for flights crossing the Atlantic being described as ...

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by SpaceshipDC10
Thu Apr 23, 2020 8:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Canadian Airports 2020 Statistics
Replies: 111
Views: 15396

Re: Canadian Airports 2020 Statistics

Vancouver Y V R February 2020 & YTD Domestic : 900,229 +2,2% / 1,837,145 +0,8% International - Transborder : 462,686 -3,8% / 942,762 -3,4% - Asia Pacific : 259,172 -23,7% / 658,988 -11,5% - Europe : 74,675 +8,1% / 155,103 +7,8% - Misc. 121,182 +17,9% / 245,481 +15,5% Total Int'l: 917,715 -7,5% ...

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by SpaceshipDC10
Thu Apr 23, 2020 6:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Western Airlines Chieftain Liveries
Replies: 46
Views: 5810

Re: Western Airlines Chieftain Liveries

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=554997
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TW870 wrote:
Why did Western cancel the 747 order? Was it late enough that the '73 recession hit?


Have a look here, you'll get the answer: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=554997

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by SpaceshipDC10
Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Western Airlines Chieftain Liveries
Replies: 46
Views: 5810

Re: Western Airlines Chieftain Liveries

WA707atMSP wrote:
IIn the late 1960s, Western ordered several 747s, which were cancelled before delivery. Imagine how good the indian head scheme would have looked on a 747?


Would have they received the Chieftain livery or already the swizzlestick? When was it introduced?

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by SpaceshipDC10
Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Mauritius enters Voluntary Administration
Replies: 2
Views: 665

Re: Air Mauritius enters Voluntary Administration

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1445001
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Yes, see here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1445001

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by SpaceshipDC10
Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Corsair International fleet evolution starting in 2020
Replies: 2
Views: 1387

Re: Corsair International fleet evolution starting in 2020

A330 -343 1103 F-HROK Corsair International in full cs at PVG 20apr20, VQ-reg prior delivery ex VQ-BEL


i wonder whether it will replace F-HCAT which has been in service since 1999.

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by SpaceshipDC10
Tue Apr 21, 2020 9:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's up with Southern Air's 77F stored at LEJ?
Replies: 14
Views: 4150

Re: What's up with Southern Air's 77F stored at LEJ?

It's currently descending to HKG.

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by SpaceshipDC10
Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Western Airlines Chieftain Liveries
Replies: 46
Views: 5810

Re: Western Airlines Chieftain Liveries

When they revised their color scheme to the flying W swizzle stick, a much brighter white was used. Indeed, it shows when you have the two liveries side by side. Crème is a better description. Yes, tha's better. Funny how Western has kept a minimalist tail design over the decades. No big logo, be i...

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by SpaceshipDC10
Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's up with Southern Air's 77F stored at LEJ?
Replies: 14
Views: 4150

Re: What's up with Southern Air's 77F stored at LEJ?

https://www.flightradar24.com/2462541d
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airtran737 wrote:
It was going to be sold to TK, but word has it that Southern is putting it back in service and it supposedly flew LEJ-HKG today.


Since your reply I've checked three times its status, the latest, now, have it appears active on F24 still at LEJ: https://www.flightradar24.com/2462541d

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by SpaceshipDC10
Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Braniff Bankruptcy 1983
Replies: 44
Views: 6904

Re: Braniff Bankruptcy 1983

Recalling from memory, but Pan Am paid a high price for National, as there was a bidding war with Texas International to control National and Frank Lorenzo walked away with a quick profit on the deal after Pan Am paid the higher per share price. True, PA paid way too much for National, but how much...

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by SpaceshipDC10
Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Braniff Bankruptcy 1983
Replies: 44
Views: 6904

Re: Braniff Bankruptcy 1983

TWA772LR wrote:
Would've been a lot better for Pan Am to merge with Braniff, IMO.


That would probably have been a better choice compared to National, however, did Pan Am had enough money to acquire Braniff when they went after National?

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by SpaceshipDC10
Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's up with Southern Air's 77F stored at LEJ?
Replies: 14
Views: 4150

What's up with Southern Air's 77F stored at LEJ?

https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... air/rox5mz
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It's seating there since May 7th, 2019?

https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/ ... air/rox5mz

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by SpaceshipDC10
Sun Apr 19, 2020 10:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Braniff Bankruptcy 1983
Replies: 44
Views: 6904

Re: Braniff Bankruptcy 1983

I really wonder how Braniff’s history would have looked like if they hadn’t overly expanded. Maybe they were still flying today or maybe they would have succumbed to the brutal strength of American Airlines eventually anyway? We will never know. I doubt they would still be around by now when you se...

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by SpaceshipDC10
Sun Apr 19, 2020 1:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Three LH Cargo flights currently between YYZ and FRA
Replies: 7
Views: 3396

Re: Three LH Cargo flights currently between YYZ and FRA

Immigration issues in light of various travel bans. Much easier if the crew doesn't get off the aircraft. Most folks flying stuff out of mainland China want to do the same thing: change crew (meaning stage outbound crew) somewhere other than in mainland China. National Cargo did a FEMA Air Bridge f...

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