Industrially, how do these models actually prevent Boeing from profitably launching a MOM ? With Airbus having the 338neo ( still not selling well ), and the A321neoLR/XLR, they do have on paper an appropriate offer. Boeing took B757 orders from 1978 until 2003, but 50% of them were taken after 198...
Jump to postDelta mainline has the smallest jets, so it not surprising that it is the only airline of the three to fly to 49 states. Delta Airlines 91 Boeing 717-200 with 110 seats 22 Airbus A220-100(23 on order) with 109 seats American Airlines 20 Embraer 190 with 99 seats 131 Airbus A319-100 with 128 seats Un...
Jump to postDoes anyone know their current state count? If Delaware has no airport with scheduled service, maybe excluding that say, 49 states then? United has a United Express from Yeager Airport in West Virgina (roughly 600 boarding and 600 deplanements per day for entire airport), so my guess is United has ...
Jump to postSo A32X NEO status now looks like:- A319 NEO - 36 orders, 1 delivery, 35 backlog A320 NEO - 3 856 orders, 720 deliveries, 3 136 backlog A321 NEO- 2 762 orders, 212 deliveries, 2 552 backlog A321 NEO is now 45% of backlog Using the standard prices the A321neo is only slightly below the A320 relative...
Jump to postHere are Airbus net orders for 2019 (Jan-Aug) 0 A319ceo 0 A320ceo 0 A321ceo -3 A220-100 -23 A220-300 -7 A319neo +64 A320neo +71 A321neo 102 (+135 A320neo family) 0 A330-200F 0 A330-300 -5 A330-200 +2 A330-800 +8 A330-900 +5 +9 A350-900 +10 A350-1000 +19 -31 A380 95 TOTAL (102+5+19-31) I would have t...
Jump to postLet's suppose you want to go from Tijuana to one of the Pacific Beach destinations ZIH 1412 miles Ixtapa/Zihuatanejo [Ixtapa-Zihuatanejo Intl], GRO, MX ACA 1530 miles Acapulco [General Juan N. Álvarez Intl], GRO, MX HUX 1737 miles Huatulco (Santa Cruz) [Bahías de Huatulco Intl], OAX, MX But once aga...
Jump to postThe issue of nonstop service between SAN and CUN comes up every few years. I suppose the bottom line is that of airports that have both nonstops to Cancun and Hawaii are pretty big airports if they over 1700 miles from Cancun. You don't see Cancun service to Sacramento, San Jose, Oakland, Portland ...
Jump to postThe STN express takes between 47 and 56 minutes to London's Liverpool Street (3 miles from Canary Wharf), with trains departing every 15 minutes. The LHR express takes 15 minutes to London's Paddington Street, with trains departing every 15 minutes. The LGW express advertises 30 minutes to London's ...
Jump to postThe article mentions that B6, if they decide to use Stansed or Luton, could offer connecting service throughout Europe on either Easyjet or Ryanair. However, if they did that, they would potentially lose out on the lucrative business passengers who prefer to use Gatwick and Heathrow. So it is essen...
Jump to postAs far as Asia goes, I honestly think this place should have had a flight to India already, it looks like Little Delhi at times here. It seems like one of the poorest ways to predict flights to a foreign airport is to look around and see what ethnicities you see. ABQ is the largest airport in a sta...
Jump to postHere's an interesting thought. From 1993 until 2001 B737 Next Generation orders were 1317 in North America and 545 in the rest of the world . Prior to 9-11, Boeing viewed the B737 Next Generation as the second and last major redesign of the B737 and expected to replace the NG with a clean sheet desi...
Jump to postThe new chief of the Hawaii Tourism Authority has shifted the focus of the state agency from building more tourism volume to managing the volume that Hawaii gets, currently. I feel that way about Las Vegas who is wrestling with an airport that cannot possibly sustain the growth. Tourism Authority s...
Jump to postI checked the flight records from BTS for last February Daily flights miles, average number of seats (278 indicates all A330, 189 indicates all A321, something else indicates combination of A330s and A321s). 2338 OGG SFO 278 average seats 2349 OGG OAK 189 2355 OGG SJC 189 2398 HNL SFO 278 2409 HNL O...
Jump to postWill there be two morning HA flights for SEA-HNL or will they have morning/evening similar to Delta's offering? Right now it looks like two morning jets (one of each capacity) SEA -> HNL Non-Stop Duration 6h 15m 7:20am to 11:35am A321 (189 seats) 8:40am to 12:55pm A330 (278 seats) Hawaiian still ha...
Jump to postI still don't understand why a US airline can't make SAN-CUN work when it is obviously the busiest resort in Mexico. TIJ-CUN flights are Saturday Only on Volaris last I looked. Southwest average stage length is 757 miles, and only 30% of their passengers take a second stage. Average one way fare is...
Jump to postSlightly off-topic, does anyone know what routes are currently flown by HA A321NEO's? OAK/SJC/LGB/PDX for sure and maybe LAS/SAN? I don't know about LAS since it is so busy. Right now they have three daily A330s. PHX only has 1 A330 per day to HNL, but it is the most distant city for the Western ma...
Jump to postSlightly off-topic, does anyone know what routes are currently flown by HA A321NEO's? The latest month BTS data is available is Feb 2019. At the time HA had 11 A321neos and they flew these 11 routes daily miles 2615 LAX LIH 2603 PDX HNL 2569 LGB HNL 2562 PDX OGG 2541 SAN OGG 2504 LAX KOA 2457 OAK L...
Jump to postPacoMartin wrote:I said earlier the four airports in Northern California delivered seats equivalent roughly 80 daily 175 seat B737s.
I really think that WN in the market will stimulate more traffic and not cut into the HA and AS traffic as much as many think, especially when WN adds more through and connecting segments to the overwater flights, splitting the loads between the coastal gateway and inland traffic. Sure there is som...
Jump to postFurthermore you cite 24 332s on property once the 789s start arriving. My understanding is that some of these will be returned to their lessor and not necessarily used for robust expansion. 77H Thank you for that excellent point which I totally failed to take into consideration. It looks like 12 of...
Jump to postYou are literally conversing and arguing with yourself at this point. You ask questions then provide all this data and counter your own suggestions. You said 787s to Europe, then you go to 787s SE Asia. Hawaiian Airlines has not said where they plan to deploy their 789s, so it is all speculation. P...
Jump to postHow many widebody gates does TIJ have? I can't even find a terminal map of the airport. I would think out of a total of 23 gates only one or two could handle a widebody. The domestic destinations are all under 2012 miles, and the only international flight to Shanghai–Pudong ends December 13, 2019. ...
Jump to postCan you explain why you feel HA would specifically target UA’s hubs rather the DL’s SLC, MSP, DTW or ATL hubs or AA’s DFW, PHL, CLT hubs? Especially when you consider that DFW is a larger market than DEN or IAH.. I’d posit the US3 will be the most insulated from WN’s entry into the HI market. Curre...
Jump to postBackground information 121 767-200ER last order 14. Jun. 2005; range 6,590 nmi ; three class seating 174 seats (15F, 40J, 119Y) 583 767-300ER last order 23. Feb. 2012; range 5,980 nmi ; three class seating 210 seats (18F, 42J, 150Y) The 763ER with three dozen more seats was clearly a much more succe...
Jump to postGreat Circle Ranges AUS to: DUB 4,029 nm CDG 4,440 nm The new A321XLR (extra long range) can go up to 4,700 nm under still air conditions. That probably means that Dublin would be within range, but probably not Paris. Right now Hawaiian Airlines flies their A321neos as far as Phoenix. Possibly if th...
Jump to postPresumably Southwest will set up some schedules so that the same jet flies from Midway, Dallas Love Field and BWI on to a California city and straight on to Honolulu or Maui. Passengers will be attracted to the flights because they will be able to board and fall asleep in their chairs until they arr...
Jump to postThis board lives for the drama and loves when airlines fold and people lose their jobs. It is really bizarre. When I started this thread, I never even considered that Southwest would threaten the existence of Hawaiian airlines. Just that their strategy might change. Will Hawaiian lose some business...
Jump to postRight now HNL has 43 domestic flights each way daily to the 2000-3000 mile range (roughly the WN range) . Of course, there are flights to the other islands as well. A total of 46% of the seats are on wide-bodies (Boeing 777-200, A330-200/300) and another 10% are on B753 (the stretched version of the...
Jump to postWhy does everyone think it's a win-lose or lose-lose option in Hawaii? It's not like all the other airlines in the US went under every time WN entered their home turf. It's not a 2-way competition. Firmly in 2nd place at HNL is United Airlines. United is without competition at IAD, EWR, and IAH; Am...
Jump to postI went to the Hawaiian Airlines website and checked on both weekday and weekend flights from Sacramento to Honolulu. There still is a flight every day, but now the equipment was always an A321 instead of an A330 like it was last year. So it looks like they pulled the A330s off of Sacramento and are ...
Jump to postThe Hawaiian state government is not going to let some Haole airline from Dallas destroy a company that employees 7k people on the islands. It doesn't matter what Southwest has, they will never be able to take over the Hawaiian market because the moment that HA calls the state government saying the...
Jump to postPerhaps it would help if we looked at hard examples for the three cities where Southwest began service (closest ones to HNL) 2462 mi SMF Sacramento [Intl] CA 2417 mi SJC San José [Norman Y. Mineta San José Intl] CA 2409 mi OAK Oakland [Metropolitan Oakland Intl] CA In February 2019 Hawaiian had A330...
Jump to postI'm pretty sure HA has stated the NEOs are mostly for opening routes from existing mainland cities to the secondary islands, not to go on a opening new mainland cities spree. That absolutely was their stated goal when they ordered the A321neo in the 2012-2013 time frame. It was also what they were ...
Jump to postThis are the mainland airports served by Hawaiian Airlines at present. Obviously BOS and JFK must be serviced by A330s. But Hawaiian has a fleet of A321 neos, while Southwest has only B737s. So far Southwest has only started flying from the three nearest airports (SMF, SJC, OAK) since it doesn't hav...
Jump to postLAX 43.04 million +1% YoY DXB 41.27 million -5.6% YoY 1. ATL continues to register fairly strong growth despite being world's #1 airport by pax traffic for over two decades US domestic growth in 2019 has been 4.31% for domestic passengers and 2.75% for international passengers. So LAX is growing at...
Jump to postIndiGo has almost 100 A320neos in service. Is this correct? So many have been already delivered to a single customer? Here is the deliveries from Airbus database as of 31 July 2019. A320neos delivered 87 INDIGO INDIA A 41 FRONTIER AIRLINES UNITED STATES N 38 AIRASIA MALAYSIA MALAYSIA A 35 GO AIR IN...
Jump to postI've been saying for a long time that shiny new terminals and long runways don't necessarily attract foreign carriers to an airport, marketing does. An airport can have a dirt runway and a tent for a terminal, if the marketing is there, the airlines will come. I can list many airports around the co...
Jump to postblacksoviet wrote:Who owns the NTC?
Yup, the fares on the Mexican carriers may be cheaper, but passengers also want a choice, maybe US passengers would want to use their frequent flyer miles and fly on WN, AS, or SY to the Mexican beach resorts, and pay a little more to fly out of SAN instead of the hassle of using the CBX to TIJ to ...
Jump to postIn theory HSR would have accomplished that too but at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if it were cancelled before even the LA-SF routing gets fully built--never mind LA-SD. We have been talking about HSR for 60 years since the Japanese opened their first links. I don't think there will be one i...
Jump to postI think it is possibly the only single class "premium economy" airline in the world.
Jump to postSAN is suffering from the same problem that airports all over the world are suffering from. They are using the runway which is great for flights of 500 miles or greater and cluttering it up with short range flights. We need practical planes (possibly turboprops) which can take off using VTOL and fly...
Jump to postDon’t see how operating as SAN is somehow a foolish decision. It isn't a foolish decision until it can't expand anymore in 10-15 years. At that point according to your favorite professor, constrained operations will begin and people must look to alternatives to travel (i.e. holograms). There’s noth...
Jump to postThe idea is to have an "in-transit" type of area so people going into Mexico just to catch an international flight don't have to pass through Mexican customs and immigration. I'm surprised San Diego news outlets haven't picked up on this. As of present there are no plans for Aeromexico to...
Jump to postSome people just like to imagine some alternate universe where ridiculously foolish decisions would be made by airlines because they like the concept of something that an airline wouldn’t even consider. Does that include 7 airlines flying out of Lindbergh,... American Airlines / Delta Air Lines / U...
Jump to postWhy is everyone so keen about shifting all of our int'l flights to TIJ? What is the benefit? It seems like there is a 3 or 4 way competition now to these two resort airports. I don't know how long SAN can keep competitive. TIJ has nonstops to 34 Mexican airports including colonial era cities and be...
Jump to postI just paid about $400 more a ticket for flying from San Diego to Madrid versus flying out of LAX. Grrr. Are you comparing a TIJ airport to Madrid via Mexico City to a nonstop LAX-MAD? 5:01 pm TIJ -> 10:35 pm MEX 737-800 Duration – 3 hours, 34 minutes 1 hour layover 11:35 pm MEX -> 5:55 pm MAD 787-...
Jump to postA) it's a relatively young frame with plenty of useful years left (despite the maybe a bit dodgy current maintenance state) and B) they're needing any 757 they can get their hands on at the moment because of the 737 MAX fiasco. In 2016, Icelandair added the first two Boeing 767-300 ER to the fleet,...
Jump to postIt is one step better than having the land bridge they have here from TJ Airport to SD because you would never have to enter Mexico.. The CBX as built was not the original proposal made in 1990. That would have kept passengers in a secure area so they wouldn't enter into Mexico, but could then boar...
Jump to postDoes anybody have any numbers on how many pax from Tjuana use the San Diego airport? Anyway, just looking at how to deal with the next decade of growth. I should think it would be minimal. In contrast, a very big percentage of passengers at Tijuana airport are from San Diego county as they have rou...
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