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by Spacepope
Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021
Replies: 3033
Views: 439077

Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Sweet, I'm glad the Far East has started a conversion line for glass cockpit DC-9s!!! I'm sure they contacted the appropriate authorities in the US for technical data transfer!!! …whether the authorities are aware the tech data was transferred or not…. Conversions have been underway for over 6 mont...

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by Spacepope
Sun Dec 26, 2021 10:26 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: RAF Typhoon Shoots Down Drone
Replies: 33
Views: 3688

Re: RAF Typhoon Shoots Down Drone

johns624 wrote:
Weren't the French and British running out of some ordnance back when they intervened in Libya? It might not be the cost but the number in inventory that's important.


Partly by design. The French used it as an opportunity to expend all its HOT stocks.

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by Spacepope
Sun Dec 26, 2021 8:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Denver Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 895
Views: 166141

Re: Denver Aviation Thread - 2021

Bizzare that DEN-COS is viable! HSR is much more suitable. No clue how it's profitable. I can guarantee you it is NOT profitable because of O&D traffic. Very similar to RST-MSP. Not O&D. Peace :box: The added cost is totally worth it for us near COS, when you compare to tolls, parking, not ...

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by Spacepope
Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021
Replies: 3033
Views: 439077

Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Random: Looks like Maleth Aero may have a new stop-over in my backyard...Ontario, CA (ONT)! A332 9H-MFS flew YMX-ONT as DB330 on Dec. 23 (came in the dark :roll: ) https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/9h-mfs Initially I thought this was a one-off, but it seems that A332 9H-LFS will follow to...

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by Spacepope
Sun Dec 26, 2021 7:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: First Chinese ARJ-21 delivered to Indonesian airline
Replies: 13
Views: 4215

Re: First Chinese ARJ-21 delivered to Indonesian airline

http://www.smartaviation-apac.com/2021/12/indonesias-transnusa-poised-to-receive-its-first-comac-arj21/ https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202112/1243116.shtml https://www.flightglobal.com/fleets/calc-orders-30-arj21s-with-indonesian-carrier-transnusa/141884.article On one hand the first delivery of t...

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by Spacepope
Sun Dec 26, 2021 3:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2021
Replies: 1318
Views: 189946

Re: Amazon Fleet Discussion - 2021

Appears N641AZ B763 has left TLV after recent test flights, heading northwest, flight level 380. cheers! Interesting that she desended to FL280 as she passed over the UK, and now seems to be crossing the Atlantic at FL280. Isn't that an unusual altitude for a crossing in a largely-empty 767? Suppos...

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by Spacepope
Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021
Replies: 3033
Views: 439077

Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

YouTube has an upload by “Cargospotter” filming heavy freighters at LGG, and it shows RON Cargos 744 in a sad state, missing parts already. Looks like a fairly recent upload, but also shows a,lot of the action of the 744s that now do the Asia-Europe shuffle, as well as Amerijet and ABX doing transat...

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by Spacepope
Sun Dec 26, 2021 4:32 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: RAF Typhoon Shoots Down Drone
Replies: 33
Views: 3688

Re: RAF Typhoon Shoots Down Drone

Wouldn't a close fly-by at high speed by a Typhoon be enough to take a drone out at little cost? I saw an F-14 take out another F-14 by flying in front of it at close range in a movie once. Yeah but that topless volleyball documentary had some fairly outdated tactics especially WRT MiG-28s. When it...

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by Spacepope
Sun Dec 26, 2021 2:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPS orders another 19 767Fs
Replies: 189
Views: 29328

Re: UPS orders another 19 767Fs

The 767 seems to be a very practical freighter. Unfortunately it is a much less practical passenger carrier due to the 7 abreast fuselage. Too bad Boeing hadn’t made it 8 abreast to begin with, then it probably would have been able to hold its own against the A330. Since the 767 and 747 engines wer...

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by Spacepope
Sun Dec 26, 2021 12:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021
Replies: 3033
Views: 439077

Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

You know, we don't talk about Atlas all that much on here, but I have to say that it's impressive to see, on Xmas day when ATI and ABX are absent from the skies, Atlas has 13 747s (including a 748) and 4 777s in the air over the Atlantic and Pacific, and down deep into South America. Our friends at...

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by Spacepope
Sat Dec 25, 2021 8:34 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: RAF Typhoon Shoots Down Drone
Replies: 33
Views: 3688

Re: RAF Typhoon Shoots Down Drone

Wouldn't a close fly-by at high speed by a Typhoon be enough to take a drone out at little cost? I saw an F-14 take out another F-14 by flying in front of it at close range in a movie once. Yeah but that topless volleyball documentary had some fairly outdated tactics especially WRT MiG-28s. When it...

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by Spacepope
Sat Dec 25, 2021 3:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPS orders another 19 767Fs
Replies: 189
Views: 29328

Re: UPS orders another 19 767Fs

Regarding RR, many customers still use them. Therefore it would be foolish for them to stop making green engines until there is enough to go around. Also, many different a/c types be it the 763ER and 744 use similar versions of the RR 535E4 engine. That’s an entirely different situation though, sin...

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by Spacepope
Fri Dec 24, 2021 6:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPS orders another 19 767Fs
Replies: 189
Views: 29328

Re: UPS orders another 19 767Fs

After reading this document it seems that the B757 is a tough old bird! I wonder if any of the UPS fleet is getting close to the thresholds called out in this document? N402UP was delivered Sep. 1987 and had 34754 hours and 24075 cycles as of Jan. 15 2021. Other aircraft have similar numbers. UPS's...

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by Spacepope
Fri Dec 24, 2021 3:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPS orders another 19 767Fs
Replies: 189
Views: 29328

Re: UPS orders another 19 767Fs

Presume you mean CF6 prohibited from 2028 not 2020 ! I which case GE have 6 years to develop and improve it to meet emission regulations. GE has already stated they have no intention of improving it any further. If they had their way, it would already be out of production. As it is they are buildin...

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by Spacepope
Fri Dec 24, 2021 2:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPS orders another 19 767Fs
Replies: 189
Views: 29328

Re: UPS orders another 19 767Fs

Watching this Youtube video of UPS action into and out Rockford (when did it become the Louisville of the north?), does the A300 and 767 perform the same mission for UPS? https://youtu.be/K0zmK-I3c4E They have different roles. The 767 has more capacity, and it is used on transatlantic and transpaci...

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by Spacepope
Fri Dec 24, 2021 3:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPS orders another 19 767Fs
Replies: 189
Views: 29328

Re: UPS orders another 19 767Fs

Watching this Youtube video of UPS action into and out Rockford (when did it become the Louisville of the north?), does the A300 and 767 perform the same mission for UPS? https://youtu.be/K0zmK-I3c4E They have different roles. The 767 has more capacity, and it is used on transatlantic and transpaci...

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by Spacepope
Thu Dec 23, 2021 2:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021
Replies: 3033
Views: 439077

Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

A few more air cargo mishaps and losses to talk about today. It's been a not so great month on the turboprop side of things. A Malu Aviation Shorts 360 (9S-GPS) has crashed in the DRC, with no survivors of the 5 crew. https://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20211223-0 Aer Caribe AN-26 was...

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by Spacepope
Thu Dec 23, 2021 2:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPS orders another 19 767Fs
Replies: 189
Views: 29328

Re: UPS orders another 19 767Fs

No, one of the reasons the pax 767 didnt sell anymore was the A330. Things do not suddenly change. Please remind us how many 767s AA and UA operated at the peak, and just how many A330s do they operate today? Far more 787s have been delivered than A330 family since the 787 EIS. Sidewalls are not go...

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by Spacepope
Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021
Replies: 3033
Views: 439077

Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Unfortunately we have our second aircraft loss with pilot this peak, following the Metro crash earlier this month: Martinaire Grand Caravan flying HOU-Victoria (TX) collided with a paraglider and crashed. Both pilots deceased. https://www.scramble.nl/civil-news/martinaire-grand-caravan-collides-with...

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by Spacepope
Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPS orders another 19 767Fs
Replies: 189
Views: 29328

Re: UPS orders another 19 767Fs

I get the impression that UPS intends these 19 additional B763F's for growth and replacements for some of the oldest B752PF's (some of which are in their mid-30's) and MD-11's (those over 30 relegated to domestic flying). With this UPS order, I wonder if DHL might place a "last call" orde...

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by Spacepope
Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021
Replies: 3033
Views: 439077

Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Ok wizards, I think I picked up a new small freighter op out of DEN. Grand Canyon Airlines, which usually does sightseeing and a few pax routes, has recently been operating a several-times weekly morning DEN-Durango-DEN RT on a Twin Otter. About an hour and a half each direction, and up at 18,000 fe...

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by Spacepope
Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPS orders another 19 767Fs
Replies: 189
Views: 29328

Re: UPS orders another 19 767Fs

I get the impression that UPS intends these 19 additional B763F's for growth and replacements for some of the oldest B752PF's (some of which are in their mid-30's) and MD-11's (those over 30 relegated to domestic flying). With this UPS order, I wonder if DHL might place a "last call" orde...

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by Spacepope
Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPS orders another 19 767Fs
Replies: 189
Views: 29328

Re: UPS orders another 19 767Fs

I get the impression that UPS intends these 19 additional B763F's for growth and replacements for some of the oldest B752PF's (some of which are in their mid-30's) and MD-11's (those over 30 relegated to domestic flying). With this UPS order, I wonder if DHL might place a "last call" orde...

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by Spacepope
Wed Dec 22, 2021 2:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPS orders another 19 767Fs
Replies: 189
Views: 29328

Re: UPS orders another 19 767Fs

https://www.icao.int/newsroom/pages/ica ... craft.aspx
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wjcandee wrote:
MIflyer12 wrote:
Investment? There's six years of production left.


Remind me again why this is. I just don't recall/understand. Something to do with some climate change treaty or something?


It's the ICAO https://www.icao.int/newsroom/pages/ica ... craft.aspx

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by Spacepope
Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPS orders another 19 767Fs
Replies: 189
Views: 29328

Re: UPS orders another 19 767Fs

I wonder if any other airline will buy new build 767s in the future. Instead of 5X/FX. But, I'd think maybe not because there will be lots of used 767 hitting the market and the cost for conversion is probably cheaper than a new build. Maybe if the re-engined 764XF has a chance that's the only way,...

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by Spacepope
Tue Dec 21, 2021 3:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPS orders another 19 767Fs
Replies: 189
Views: 29328

Re: UPS orders another 19 767Fs

One would assume expansion, there are very few high-hour/cycle aircraft in their fleet, and of those they are mostly 744Fs. They seem content maintaining the 757 and A300 levels for now, and the oldest 763Fs don't have a ton of use on them still. Perhaps the last of this order may replace some of t...

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by Spacepope
Tue Dec 21, 2021 2:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPS orders another 19 767Fs
Replies: 189
Views: 29328

Re: UPS orders another 19 767Fs

Nice order for Boeing, keeps the 767 line going next to the tankers. And to be clear, with 80 orders for their freighter family they mean the combined total orders for the 747-8F, 767-300F and the 777F and not just the 767 orders. With this order the 767F total is 38. Will these be used for expansi...

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by Spacepope
Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UPS orders another 19 767Fs
Replies: 189
Views: 29328

Re: UPS orders another 19 767Fs

Right on schedule, as the final UPS 763F from the current order book is about to head out Boeing’s door.

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by Spacepope
Tue Dec 21, 2021 1:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A330/350 Freighter Topic
Replies: 45
Views: 7703

Re: A330/350 Freighter Topic

A freighter the size of an A332F could not be commercially successful without orders from FedEx or UPS. That is where the 763F beats the A332F. Currently, 224 out of the 251 orders (89.24%)for the 763F are from FedEx and UPS. They better get to designing folding wings if there is any hope then. The...

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by Spacepope
Mon Dec 20, 2021 7:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A330/350 Freighter Topic
Replies: 45
Views: 7703

Re: A330/350 Freighter Topic

MD80MKE wrote:
Flying-Tiger wrote:
- CMA CGM seems to be getting one A330-200 P2F, to be operated by Air Belgium (assumed)


This is interesting. Any idea on the timeline and the lessor behind (if any)?


This will be where sources would be helpful. We already cover a lot of this in the Air Cargo megathread.

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by Spacepope
Sun Dec 19, 2021 5:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China Airlines A330 replacement plans?
Replies: 29
Views: 7007

Re: China Airlines A330 replacement plans?

CI's A330s are not that old and are mainly used for regional services. Post-pandemic, it would be difficult to forecast demand and perhaps that is why they are holding off any orders. If they don't replace them with A330 Neos, they might use a combination of A321Neos and A359s for those routes. It ...

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by Spacepope
Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021
Replies: 3033
Views: 439077

Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Finally escaping nearly 5 1/2 hours late. Let's see what routes UPS has her on... short domestic hops or will she be visiting INC and CGN soon? Well, it's Western Global. So we'll see what she's ready for. She was initially scheduled to ONT about 3am local time, but looks like that's been cancelled...

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by Spacepope
Fri Dec 17, 2021 11:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021
Replies: 3033
Views: 439077

Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

So here's some exciting WGN News: Western Global's N452SN is in the air from RSW to SDF to join the fun! This is the 744BDSF that flew for Asiana its entire career, that was wfu and stored in the desert in mid-2017, only to be pieced back together at VCV earlier this year (2021) after 4 years there...

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by Spacepope
Fri Dec 17, 2021 6:17 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: RAF Typhoon Shoots Down Drone
Replies: 33
Views: 3688

Re: RAF Typhoon Shoots Down Drone

What does a drone cost? What does an A2A missile cost? Sending drones in is a good way to drain your adversary's budget. Isn't there a more cost effective way of downing drones? I started to dig in to this but found no easy answer. What is the price placed a coalition soldier killed if the drone ha...

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by Spacepope
Fri Dec 17, 2021 12:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A330 and A340 Movements/Write-off/Retirements/Scrap Thread - 2021
Replies: 159
Views: 58655

Re: A330 and A340 Movements/Write-off/Retirements/Scrap Thread - 2021

Really sad to see such young frames being scrapped while we have some much older ones still flying. Both were delivered brand new, flew slightly over 7 years only. Wasn't there a rumour two of these will be converted? I must have gotten it wrong. I am afraid those ex-Avianca airframes will eventual...

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by Spacepope
Thu Dec 16, 2021 2:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021
Replies: 3033
Views: 439077

Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Secondly, the report of SQ ordering 7+5 A350Fs for delivery from mid-decade. This will release 7 middle aged, immaculately maintained 747-412Fs onto the market. Be fun to see where they go for a second chance at life. Let's hope there's a market still for them by the time the A350s are delivered. A...

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by Spacepope
Wed Dec 15, 2021 9:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Denver Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 895
Views: 166141

Re: Denver Aviation Thread - 2021

There's an extreme wind event that'll affect DEN tomorrow for much of the day. Winds gusting near 100 mph in the foothills and 60+ at the airport Saw a forecast in the southern mountains for 122mph gusts. I’m expecting cancellations here to the south at COS with our paltry 70-80mph scores. Wind is ...

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by Spacepope
Wed Dec 15, 2021 5:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Denver Aviation Thread - 2021
Replies: 895
Views: 166141

Re: Denver Aviation Thread - 2021

There's an extreme wind event that'll affect DEN tomorrow for much of the day. Winds gusting near 100 mph in the foothills and 60+ at the airport Saw a forecast in the southern mountains for 122mph gusts. I’m expecting cancellations here to the south at COS with our paltry 70-80mph scores. Wind is ...

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by Spacepope
Wed Dec 15, 2021 12:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021
Replies: 3033
Views: 439077

Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

An Oscoda revival! N915CK and N916CK, two of the three Kalitta Charters II DC-9Fs, which were retired in 2019, ferried OSC-SHV-SLW for Aeronaves TSM yesterday and today. 915 is a DC-9-10F and 916 is a -30F. Judging by the history of Aeronaves' private Citation (XB-SGT), it looks like they flew up t...

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by Spacepope
Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021
Replies: 3033
Views: 439077

Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

https://www.scramble.nl/civil-news/chro ... b737-800sf
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Canadian airline Chrono has signed a contract with AEI to convert one 738 to freighter. Chrono has already purchased the aircraft (C-GCAI l/n 997) according to Scramble, who is reporting this from an AEI press release.

https://www.scramble.nl/civil-news/chro ... b737-800sf

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by Spacepope
Sat Dec 11, 2021 4:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021
Replies: 3033
Views: 439077

Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

We've unfortunately had our first fatal accident of Peak. A Castle Aviation Metro, N54GP, on approach to MHT reported an engine failure, but couldn't make it to the airfield and crashed into a nearby river. Single pilot, no survivors. https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/270427 Caveat: ASN says it w...

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by Spacepope
Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Belgium to operate B747?
Replies: 46
Views: 13725

Re: Air Belgium to operate B747?

Are they really loaded/unloaded at the gate? That'd be silly since the plane is in cargo operation, not pax operation. As far as the staff needed, that's on the airline, not on the airport. The aircraft takes up too much time and space on the ground at the airport, inhibiting operations. Honestly i...

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by Spacepope
Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TransNorthern Super DC-3 Forced Landing Dec. 8, 2021
Replies: 16
Views: 3945

Re: TransNorthern Super DC-3 Forced Landing Dec. 8, 2021

Noshow wrote:
They could just Basler it?


I don't think Basler converts R4Ds. Only regular vanilla original DC-3s

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by Spacepope
Fri Dec 10, 2021 2:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021
Replies: 3033
Views: 439077

Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Podunk Mountain Town cargo update: Looks like the increase in volume is trickling down to the feeders in several ways. Key Lime and Bemidji are trucking along adding a few frequencies (and stops, sometime DEN-COS hops which is usually irregular). I can't see these Bemidji US-Army surplus 1962 Queen ...

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by Spacepope
Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021
Replies: 3033
Views: 439077

Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Rates are incredible and I agree that parting with a 747-8F now is not the best business decision. I see that Air Belgium is actively looking for crews. It could be that they somehow have leased a frame from someone but will move it with their own personnel. If Atlas can make $1.5 million per Pacif...

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by Spacepope
Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Belgium to operate B747?
Replies: 46
Views: 13725

Re: Air Belgium to operate B747?

jimmy9irons wrote:
Why is China banning preighter ops?

Because bulk loading the main deck is a time consuming goat rope

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by Spacepope
Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021
Replies: 3033
Views: 439077

Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

Lease them from atlas? Everyone else is using them to fly cargo around. ' ' Exactly. Anybody that actually HAS a 747-8 is looking at charters being booked for more than $1 million a pop from Asia to CONUS (often almost twice that). They would be insane to part with the aircraft unless they are comp...

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by Spacepope
Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA adding NYC to Doha, cutting back international due to 787 delays
Replies: 196
Views: 30708

Re: AA adding NYC to Doha, cutting back international due to 787 delays

They weren’t sold to DHL. They are sold to Jetran who in turn sold them to CAM who then placed with ATI, ABX, and others to fly for Amazon, a few went to Cargojet. A number ended up with DHL as well as other freight carriers and the point is that the 767s provided cash for AA. Now they need to inve...

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by Spacepope
Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021
Replies: 3033
Views: 439077

Re: Air Cargo (non-Amazon/DHL) Thread - 2021

https://avherald.com/h?article=4f1610b5&opt=0
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Another ding to the Freighter fleet yesterday when a Transnorthern Super DC-3 made a belly landing after losing an engine on takeoff out of ANC. Everyone is fine but it'll be a bit before this old workhorse is back in the air. https://avherald.com/h?article=4f1610b5&opt=0

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by Spacepope
Thu Dec 09, 2021 3:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Belgium to operate B747?
Replies: 46
Views: 13725

Re: Air Belgium to operate B747?

Plenty of passenger 747s lying around. Most likely this is for a cargo op but if the A340 works for KF, maybe the 747 will too. ACMI charters usually include lots of sitting around waiting for the phone to ring, so a low purchase price is arguably more important than low fuel burn Definitely for ca...

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