One more hypothesis that sustains why Copa Airlines would never utilize long-haul equipments. They usually launch two 738s simultaneously, in their high density routes. Both planes may cater up to 300 passengers, in average. Santiago - Panama City CM 118.....SCL 05.48....10.30 PTY...738 CM 112.....S...Jump to post
2travel2know2 wrote:DIdn't UA flew that route once?
If I recall correctly, the former TACA did operate the GUA-ORD sector, in the past.
It was basically served as TA SAL-ORD.
AV is not operating [Chicago - Central America] at this time.
Back to the ORD-GUA segment, the market really exists there, regarding AA ORD-GUA and UA ORD-GUA.
Happy new year 2022 to all the posters and readers of this board ! Recapitulation of the 2021 Central american civil aviation. Please, let me know if something has been missing. I didn't check if all the routes actually started as planned. January 08: UA LAX-LIR 3x weekly, 739 NEW January 09: UA LAX...Jump to post
Dallas/Ft. Worth couldn't be fairly compared to Atlanta, given the potential supplied by Copa Airlines. AA DFW-PTY is not in service anymore and it poorly worked in the past, taking into account the limited demand of passengers. Based on the interline agreement between DL-CM, the CM PTY-ATL is not e...Jump to post
CM to ATL 1st flight was this past Sunday Dec 12. The brand new sector called CM PTY-ATL was surprisingly launched first than the resumption of CM PTY-MSY, which is being programmed for 2022. I've always thought Copa Airlines may run successfully, in many US stations like Atlanta. Based on some ear...Jump to post
On December 11th 2021, Palmerola International airport [MHPR/XPL] in Comayagua, formally started their commercial operations as the imminent substitution of Toncontin. This airport would serve Tegucigalpa. NK 1314 routed as IAH-XPL became the first revenue flight operating there. Equipment: Airbus 3...Jump to post
Belize is strengthening its US network, allowing new destinations and weekly frequencies at this time: Los Angeles: AS LAX-BZE 3x + AA LAX-BZE 1x Seattle: AS SEA-BZE 2x Houston: WN HOU-BZE 7x + UA IAH-BZE 14x Dallas / Ft.Worth: AA DFW-BZE 7x Denver: WN DEN-BZE 1x + UA DEN-BZE 4x Chicago: UA ORD-BZE ...Jump to post
Did they actually had service JFK-LIR at some point? I think the route was announced just before the pandemic started. B6 JFK-LIR. 4x weekly. Started: November 2011. B6 JFK-SJO. 4x weekly. Started: November 2019. AA JFK-SJO. 7x weekly. Started: November 2019. AA JFK-LIR. 1x weekly. Started: Decembe...Jump to post
Aeromar will start operations in Guatemala and Honduras. Flights will be operated by Aeromar on behave of AeroRutaMaya from Guatemala Starting December 1. GUA-FRS 10 weekly GUA-SAP 4 weekly FRS-CUN 3 weekly Flights will be like this on Mondays, Wednesdays, Thursdays and Santurdays GUA-FRS-GUA-SAP-G...Jump to post
Honduras just inaugurated Palmerola airport on October 15th as the substitution of Toncontin, Tegucigalpa. The airport is localated in Comayagua and lies 75km from capital city. IATA: XPL, OACI: MHPR It's also known as Enrique Soto Cano airport and even operates as a military air base for the US and...Jump to post
Interesting to see this happen pretty soon after CM announced it will fly to ATL. CM PTY-ATL, DL JFK-PTY, DL MCO-PTY and DL LAX-PTY. That doesn't seem to be new ways of cooperation between themselves, but they're likely rivalizing in the same markets. Let's study the amount of their weekly flights,...Jump to post
CM has codeshare partner agreement with KLM and Air France so not sure if they can extend with Delta given CM conection with Star Alliance CM doesn't hold code-share agreements with DL by now, but an interline service. CM sustains multiple code-share and interline agreements, disregarding if the ai...Jump to post
So SJO is returning to its former status on TA. Based on the recent movements of the airline, that technical decision taken in 2013 was a complete mistake. The dual operations of San Salvador and San Jose have never looked as an efficient model of transportation. Both SAL and SJO worked slightly sim...Jump to post
Avianca will start San Jose - Cancun service. SJO 07.55.....11.25 CUN...Tu, Th, Sa CUN 12.50....14.25 SJO....Tu, Th, Sa Effective: December 02nd. AV SJO-CUN 3x weekly will complement the massive new services posted by AV for December 2021. This route is currently served by Volaris / Volaris Costa Ri...Jump to post
COPA Airlines offered in the past up to two checked bags of 30 kilograms for free. Same on TACA. The conclusion was that someone traveling on CM had more flexibility to carry more cargo. However, this baggage allowance policy didn't fit perfectly in their E90s. I couldn't find accurate sources in or...Jump to post
What was the reasoning for going for E190 instead of B737-600 when CM could have kept fleet commonality with different capacity aircraft models with almost the same range. The Embraer 190 was more efficient than other 100-seater jets, in terms of fuel consumption: Boeing 737-600, Boeing 717, Sukhoi...Jump to post
danielair00 wrote:Edelweiss will begin a 1X flight to LIR on sundays flying a triangular route ZRH-SJO-LIR-ZRH. SJO
Thank you all for your inputs ! The Central American landscape will experience huge modifications, in terms of resumptions and new brand routes to the end of 2021. Some of them may change due to Government approvals and technical reasons without notice. Copa Airlines hasn't started again some of the...Jump to post
The ties between New Orleans and Honduras are more historical than current. Outside Honduras, there aren’t many ties between New Orleans and Latin America. I agree. New Orleans was one of the main gateways linking the United States and Central America, more than 35 years ago. The demand of passenge...Jump to post
Braniff International and Eastern Air Lines flew the PTY-MSY sector, so many years ago. The commercial ties between New Orleans and Central America are historically focused in Honduras. NK MSY-SAP 3x weekly started in July as scheduled flights. The same route was attended in the past by TACA and SAH...Jump to post
More resumptions till the end of the year: October 01: LP LIM-SJO. Resumes October 02: WS YYZ-LIR 1x weekly. Resumes October 09: AC YYZ-LIR 1x weekly. Resumes October 13: AC YYZ-SJO. Resumes. November 01: AC YUL-SJO, Resumes November 01: WG YYZ-LIR 1x weekly + WG YUL-LIR 1x weekly. Resumes November ...Jump to post
Here's the comprehensive list about the resumption of the destinations temporarily canceled on Copa Airlines. Possible changes might occur without further notice and pending the respective government approval. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/9785/9RDTvE.jpg Update: I had posted the resumptio...Jump to post
ATL for CM is a surprise. I really think so. The model of CM is based on loading planes through PTY with passengers coming from abroad. However, DL has a decent Latin American coverage from Atlanta, even though their weekly supply of flights is not the same before March 2020, in most cases. Regards.Jump to post
REDHL wrote:Copa will not resume its flights to MSY due to relatively low seat load factors.
I found this source elaborated by European Aviation Safety Agency , in 2007. They did a comparision between the Embraer 170/175/190/195 series. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/7490/KyZWEa.jpg The Embraer 190 had been utilized for Copa Airlines in overwater operations, like CM PTY-KIN, CM PTY-...Jump to post
I suggest to check the last inputs as American Eagle on behalf of American Airlines is flying the following routes from Miami with Embraer 170/175 jets. They're mostly operated over the sea. Miami - Providenciales: 503nm. Miami - Merida: 593nm. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/6181/RY1sJH.jpg ...Jump to post
I haven't found accurate sources, in order to justify my next point: as far as I remember, from August till November 2020 or so, some [US - Central America] routes having low demand of passengers in those days were briefly operatad with Embraer 170/175 jets. Thus, they could be fully overwater equip...Jump to post
The opening of new US destinations heading to Central America may start with limited weekly frequencies.
For instance, UA ORD-LIR, UA ORD-SJO, UA SFO-LIR and DL ATL-RTB are barely operating on a weekly basis.
The current demand of passengers doesn't need more seats in such routes by now.
DL MSP-SJO AA PHL-SJO AA DFW-PTY DL LAX-PTY DL ATL-MGA AA CLT-PTY DL MSP-SJO. It might be. DL and SY flies MSP-LIR seasonally. AA PHL-SJO. It was in service seasonally, before March 2020. AA DFW-PTY. It was barely in service as 1x weekly for their last days. DL LAX-PTY. They will face CM PTY-LAX 14...Jump to post
San Pedro Sula is becoming into a low cost airport , given the upcoming operations announced for this sort of airlines: October 31: N3 SAL-SAP November 17: NK MIA-SAP December: B6 JFK-SAP This statement is being reinforced by the current flights supplied for Spirit there: NK IAH-SAP NK MSY-SAP NK MC...Jump to post
Spirit announces new flights from Miami to Central America: October 06: NK MIA-GUA. 4x weekly 320 October 07: NK MIA-SAL. 3x weekly. 320 November 17: NK MIA-SAP 7x weekly. 320 Neo November 17: NK MIA-SJO. 4x weekly 320 Neo https://www.nlarenas.com/2021/07/spirit-vuelos-desde-miami-hacia-latinoameric...Jump to post
IMHO DEN RTB is just UA recognizing that it’s a similar (albeit smaller) market to DEN BZE It's a good point. Denver is becoming in the new US gateway for Central America, supplying non-stop flights to Belize City [December 11], Panama City [November 17], Roatan [December 18], Liberia and San Jose....Jump to post
Which routes are they increasing They're getting a robust presence at this time, in some selected routes originated especially from its Houston hub. That equates almost their former weekly frequencies, prior to March 2020: UA IAH-GUA: 21x weekly UA IAH-SAL: 21x weekly UA IAH-SAP: 14x weekly UA IAH-...Jump to post
Volaris El Salvador has officially received its AOC. It will begin operations on September 15, on the SAL-MEX route. Subsequently, it will be launching services to CUN and SAP from October 15 and 31, respectively. Under the Volaris Costa Rica brand, they're actually flying on Q6 SAL-IAD, Q6 SAL-LAX...Jump to post