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by 77west
Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:27 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Cabin noise comparision A330 / B787 / B777
Replies: 52
Views: 12557

Re: Cabin noise comparision A330 / B787 / B777

In terms of noise the A343 and A346 are completely different aircraft. The A343 is like sitting in a room with a lot of teenage girls drying their hair. On the A346 I was waiting for the engines to spool up at takeoff, but we just surged forward with little extra noise. A fabulously quiet and comfo...

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by 77west
Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:04 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Improvments of B767-300ERs
Replies: 8
Views: 2513

Re: Improvments of B767-300ERs

Not trying to turn this into the usual A vs B thing... simply as a side addendum to the discussion... I think that it would be fair to say that the 767-300ER has been "improved/evolved/morphed" marginally less than what the A330 has... and the main reason is because the -300ER was already...

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by 77west
Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AF66 CDG-LAX (A388-F-HPJE) diverts to Goose Bay (YYR) with an uncontained engine failure to #4 engine
Replies: 687
Views: 199853

Re: AF66 CDG-LAX (A388-F-HPJE) diverts to Goose Bay (YYR) with an uncontained engine failure to #4 engine

I think the QF incident would also have at least some impact on the captains decision. Kudos to the designers though, after such an event, still holding on to half the engine..

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by 77west
Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing-order after Monarch-demise
Replies: 43
Views: 13142

Re: Boeing-order after Monarch-demise

The slots, to my knowledge, are the property of Monarch and the liquidator (KPMG) may well have rights to sell them to recoup losses, much like other assets. Not sure if the contracts have clauses to stop this though. I don't believe any manufacturer allows this. :shakehead: They would have to be p...

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by 77west
Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Monarch Airlines ceases operations, thousands stranded
Replies: 391
Views: 71303

Re: Monarch in trouble (again)...?

RE the pilots - given they had 757 in the past, as well as 737, and the fact that you can actually train pilots to fly other types, I don't think the fleet type difference would be a major obstacle...

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by 77west
Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Monarch Airlines ceases operations, thousands stranded
Replies: 391
Views: 71303

Re: Monarch in trouble (again)...?

Could we see subbing in of bigger planes, like BA sending a 777 or 744 to pick up 2x A320 loads?

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by 77west
Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing-order after Monarch-demise
Replies: 43
Views: 13142

Re: Boeing-order after Monarch-demise

The slots, to my knowledge, are the property of Monarch and the liquidator (KPMG) may well have rights to sell them to recoup losses, much like other assets. Not sure if the contracts have clauses to stop this though.

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by 77west
Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:38 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Is the A380 a "hard lander"?
Replies: 40
Views: 9165

Re: Is the A380 a "hard lander"?

Never flown the A380, but my pilot friends flying the Whale say it's hard to get a greaser - there's always a thump. My A330 OTOH is a grandma's airplane. You really gotta put some significant effort to screw it up... :) My 787 requires a bit more effort to do a greaser in. But it's fine by me. Mak...

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by 77west
Thu Sep 28, 2017 6:04 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Is the A380 a "hard lander"?
Replies: 40
Views: 9165

Re: Is the A380 a "hard lander"?

I also suspect the forward trailing gear truck/bogie is partially to blame for this; there is enough anecdotal evidence between the 767, A380 and lesser extent, A350. It may very well be the safer design though, from the point of not floating the landings ala A330 style.. Looks ugly too in my opinio...

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by 77west
Thu Sep 28, 2017 4:30 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Stratolaunch, World’s Largest Aircraft, Completing Testing
Replies: 4
Views: 1268

Re: Stratolaunch, World’s Largest Aircraft, Completing Testing

Will they have to run every mission as "Experimental" then?

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by 77west
Sat Sep 23, 2017 3:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Auckland Airport Fuel Shortage - Resulting in diversions and cancellations
Replies: 147
Views: 20475

Re: Auckland Airport Fuel Shortage - Resulting in diversions and cancellations

A massive tanker is currently heading to Auckland port with 1.5 million litres of jet fuel on board. It is expected that the fuel will reach the airport by Tuesday http://www.news.com.au/world/breaking-news/massive-tanker-bound-for-auckland-airport/news-story/e0c2dc0feee3916c6bdf96d38406de19 So tha...

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by 77west
Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Auckland Airport Fuel Shortage - Resulting in diversions and cancellations
Replies: 147
Views: 20475

Re: Auckland Airport Fuel Shortage - Resulting in diversions and cancellations

We have booked flights to AKL on 27th October and flight back both via HKG on 13th November...do you think the flight back with CX could still be affected from fuel shortages and affect the connecting flight to FRA? ( 2.5 hours) Will be fixed well before then. Thats more than a month out. They are ...

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by 77west
Thu Sep 21, 2017 10:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Auckland Airport Fuel Shortage - Resulting in diversions and cancellations
Replies: 147
Views: 20475

Re: Auckland Airport Fuel Shortage - Resulting in diversions and cancellations

We were talking about this at work today - Fonterra (National/Large Dairy Company) probably have the biggest tanker fleet in the country. Just saying... (Yes I realise dairy tankers can't easily haul jet A1)

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by 77west
Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Auckland Airport Fuel Shortage - Resulting in diversions and cancellations
Replies: 147
Views: 20475

Re: Auckland Airport Fuel Shortage - Resulting in diversions and cancellations

I take it the fuel offloaded from the 747 is only usable in company (QF, JQ) aircraft and not other airlines? Also - how often, if ever, has this been done before; direct airplane-to-airplane transfers? Maybe NZ should send a few 77W down to WLG or CHC to bring back some fuel for their A320s.

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by 77west
Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:21 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Saying goodbye to Cassini and the Saturn system
Replies: 27
Views: 3443

Re: Saying goodbye to Cassini and the Saturn system

And she is gone. About 15 minutes ago Cassini burned up in Saturn's atmosphere. What a craft... time to rest now after 20 years of work. It didn't burn as there is no oxygen at Saturn. Cassini simply disintegrated. As per the comment above, it burned up, according to NASA. Obviously not "burn&...

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by 77west
Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Auckland Airport Fuel Shortage - Resulting in diversions and cancellations
Replies: 147
Views: 20475

Re: Auckland Airport Fuel Shortage - Resulting in diversions and cancellations

I think they should have more than a few days of fuel in storage at AKL airport. 1-2 weeks worth of normal operations would be a better margin for these sorts of events. Also, I was surprised to read on the pipe operators site that the different fuel types are pumped down the pipe one after another,...

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by 77west
Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:53 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Saying goodbye to Cassini and the Saturn system
Replies: 27
Views: 3443

Re: Saying goodbye to Cassini and the Saturn system

And she is gone. About 15 minutes ago Cassini burned up in Saturn's atmosphere. What a craft... time to rest now after 20 years of work.

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by 77west
Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017
Replies: 281
Views: 28910

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/indust ... owth-plans

Better/cheaper than taking people's houses I suppose
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Wellington Airport want the golf course land for expansion:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/indust ... owth-plans

Better/cheaper than taking people's houses I suppose

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by 77west
Sun Sep 10, 2017 12:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017
Replies: 281
Views: 28910

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - September 2017

Just giving thought to 789 deliveries from CHS.-AKL..At 7200nm it looks like about a 16.hr flight.. Not too excessive , looks like a non stop flight if they can get away early in the day. I note the route tracks pretty much over PPT.. I am sure that this won't even be a stretch for the 789, especia...

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by 77west
Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:16 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Take off speeds vs a Car at 180 mph
Replies: 15
Views: 2186

Re: Take off speeds vs a Car at 180 mph

Remember the plane is much bigger and you are much higher off the ground so yes it is an illusion. You certainly do reach those speeds.

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by 77west
Fri Aug 25, 2017 8:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: When will there be a 787F?
Replies: 21
Views: 5886

Re: When Will We See 787F?

It wont be based off the -8, thats for certain, so do we think -9 or -10 ? The -10 would appeal to package freight companies who need the volume but would this compete against the 777F, or, with a possible 777-8F, would the -10 seem more likely?

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by 77west
Thu Aug 24, 2017 11:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ATR 42/72 Production and Delivery thread
Replies: 29
Views: 6232

Re: ATR 42/72 Production and Delivery thread

NZ got a new one in July, which begs the question, what does a delivery flight TLS-NZ look like for an ATR, ought to be making a lot of stops. I think it is only 5 or so stops, I believe it is something like Toulouse - Oman - Singapore - Brisbane - Auckland Although looking at that on GC mapper it ...

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LamboAston wrote:
On another thread, there is a discussion about SAS coming to AKL.
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1371251&p=19749045#p19749045


No way that's happening...

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by 77west
Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017
Replies: 250
Views: 29153

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - August 2017

If JQ is gonna run Q400 around, I wonder if it would make sense for NZ to get some CS100 for routes that could support it...

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by 77west
Tue Aug 08, 2017 1:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: GCAA: No mechanical issues before EK521 crash.
Replies: 59
Views: 8461

Re: Emirates 777 crash not mechanical

bennett123 wrote:
Would any parts be re used, (wing and enginee etc).

Or would they just scrap it.


Highly unlikely, besides, they probably could not get it back until the investigators release it. The parts paper trail and potential liability down the road would be a nightmare.

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by 77west
Fri Jul 21, 2017 5:52 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Different door configs
Replies: 2
Views: 787

Re: Different door configs

All come down to customer options really. Air NZ, for example, had the 767 version with just overwing exits and the 4 main doors front/back, this layout gives the most floor space at the expense of max passenger load. For other airlines, quicker boarding/deboarding meant they were better off with th...

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by 77west
Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - July 2017
Replies: 160
Views: 19244

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - July 2017

A350-900 and B777-8 seem the only realistic contenders for AKL-NYC. With the 777-9 being the logical 77W replacement, this one is Boeing's to lose.

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by 77west
Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Japan Airlines outlines A350 strategy
Replies: 66
Views: 21561

Re: Japan Airlines outlines A350 strategy

I dont think a failure of the folding tip would result in loss of control. From what I gather, the folding tip is exactly that, just the swept back wing part. If there is any kind of failure it will just break cleanly away, however it is designed not to fail as it'll lock into place once deployed u...

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by 77west
Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Japan Airlines outlines A350 strategy
Replies: 66
Views: 21561

Re: Japan Airlines outlines A350 strategy

I dont think a failure of the folding tip would result in loss of control.

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by 77west
Fri Jul 14, 2017 10:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: HA177 Emergency Landing. 12 July. Engine failure.
Replies: 26
Views: 8879

Re: HA177 Emergency Landing. 12 July. Engine failure.

QANTAS has never lost a frame nor had loss of life throughout its 97 years of ops. A quick search on Wikipedia shows that this is incorrect. Qantas has had several fatal accidents (most recently in 1951) and hull losses (most recently in 1960). Though those are rather excellent numbers, since it ha...

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by 77west
Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:26 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Year 10 work experience @Sydney Airport
Replies: 6
Views: 3523

Re: Year 10 work experience @Sydney Airport

You may be better off approaching a smaller company like a fixed base operator or something similar. I managed to get work experience that even included being on test flights, but this was way back in the early 2000's in another country..

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by 77west
Fri Jun 30, 2017 7:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL releases anti-ME3 video
Replies: 196
Views: 23096

Re: DL releases anti-ME3 video

I think it is time people start fighting fire with fire, as Trump's advisors put it. I hereby request the Trump government send 150 Billion in real dollars to each of the US3. This will not be a subsidy, but a "legitimate government investment" in the words of Al Baker. Now before anyone f...

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by 77west
Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2017
Replies: 171
Views: 22845

Re: New Zealand Aviation Thread - June 2017

Really depends how the 77X shapes up I personally am a Boeing fan, but would prefer for NZ to get the A350, due to the much better economy hard product in a standard config (wide seats 9 abreast). They are also far quieter than the current 777s, and probably quieter than the 77X due to its thin sid...

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by 77west
Tue Jun 27, 2017 5:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing receives Unidentified Order for 20 777X
Replies: 51
Views: 16391

Re: Boeing receives Unidentified Order for 20 777X

SQ. Would not be NZ, thats too many, unless it was 20 777-X options across both -8 and -9.

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by 77west
Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:39 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 737 MAX 10 and its levered landing gear
Replies: 14
Views: 10810

Re: 737 MAX 10 and its levered landing gear

So it is not really levered at all, semi or otherwise. It is just telescopic. I believe it is both. Telescoping to fit the wheel well and levered to move the rotation point rearwards. On a single axle gear, in order to "lever" they would have to have the axle offset from the centreline of...

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by 77west
Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:20 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 737-9 vs. 737-10 MAX Engine Power
Replies: 22
Views: 7137

Re: 737-9 vs. 737-10 MAX Engine Power

The gear look to be telescopic, not semi-levered, so who knows how much better this could make the takeoff performance!

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by 77west
Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:03 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 737 MAX 10 and its levered landing gear
Replies: 14
Views: 10810

Re: 737 MAX 10 and its levered landing gear

So it is not really levered at all, semi or otherwise. It is just telescopic.

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by 77west
Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:32 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: 737 MAX 10 and its levered landing gear
Replies: 14
Views: 10810

Re: 737 MAX 10 and its levered landing gear

I wonder if this design could be back-ported to the -9 and -8, it would improve their field performance as well, depending on if it weighs much more.

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by 77west
Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 2017 Paris Air Show - Boeing News and Orders
Replies: 411
Views: 95444

Re: 2017 Paris Air Show - Boeing News and Orders

I believe both the 77X family and the A350 family could work for NZ, but see the 77X having an edge in commonality with existing fleet.

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by 77west
Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:58 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Roll with spoilers only on an unloaded wing?
Replies: 11
Views: 1370

Re: Roll with spoilers only on an unloaded wing?

Doesnt the A310 have no outboard ailerons, using spoilers for roll control? It does have inboard though which would help with your scenario

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by 77west
Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Caribbean airlines claiming the 600series ATR is unreliable
Replies: 236
Views: 34243

Re: Caribbean airlines claiming the 600series ATR is unreliable

And I have never had any problems myself. same. If they were so bad NZ wouldn't keep ordering them to eventually have an all-ATR fleet. New Zealand sure has its fair share of humidity as well, but not the temperatures of the Caribbean... I seem to think that all the overnight airports are near the ...

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by 77west
Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797/MOM Discussion Thread
Replies: 585
Views: 85748

Re: Another 797/MOM Article

I think we may see the 787-8 getting quietly killed off if it is even still available by MoM entry to service. Boeing has already said it does not want to build it. This would leave a decent enough gap between the MoM and the 787-9. Probably see two MoM versions to cover the gap between 737-10 and 7...

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by 77west
Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:42 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Twins vs. quads and international over water routings.
Replies: 65
Views: 7540

Re: Twins vs. quads and international over water routings.

Just ran a quick and dirty plot, and crossing Chile it came back at over 8,000nm so no, even taking winds into account I don't think that would work. You are talking about crossing both the pacific and atlantic oceans. Using 80S70W which is the furthest south I could select, it comes back at 6,870n...

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by 77west
Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:51 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Twins vs. quads and international over water routings.
Replies: 65
Views: 7540

Re: Twins vs. quads and international over water routings.

I just ran it through a flight planner and got less than 7% actually. The great circle mapper must be off or I misinterpreted the shaded areas. This was using FACT, FIMP, YPPH and NZCH as EDTO diversion airports. So do-able at 330mins. It actually match the gcmap shades, as you can see the point fa...

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by 77west
Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Caribbean airlines claiming the 600series ATR is unreliable
Replies: 236
Views: 34243

Re: Caribbean airlines claiming the 600series ATR is unreliable

Hasn't been many problems with them in New Zealand. They usually only do flights between half an hour and an hour and a half though, with a few exceptions. I have done many, many ATR72 flights in NZ, and only once that I can remember did we end up swapping planes due to a tech issue. A -500 broke a...

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by 77west
Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:10 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Twins vs. quads and international over water routings.
Replies: 65
Views: 7540

Re: Twins vs. quads and international over water routings.

Offhand guess: the detour increases total distance by less than 10%. I just ran it through a flight planner and got less than 7% actually. The great circle mapper must be off or I misinterpreted the shaded areas. This was using FACT, FIMP, YPPH and NZCH as EDTO diversion airports. So do-able at 330...

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by 77west
Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: QF32 - Could things have been handled differently?
Replies: 71
Views: 12262

Re: QF32 - Could things have been handled differently?

Clearly serious problems with major engine failures in the past, like UA292, led to changes in the control systems of aircraft and flying procedures that led to the decisions or the ability to do so as made with QF32. Sometimes it just takes some good CRM and sound basic airmanship to prevent a maj...

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by 77west
Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: QF32 - Could things have been handled differently?
Replies: 71
Views: 12262

Re: QF32 - Could things have been handled differently?

I agree with Zeke. In the air with options is far safer than a fast, heavy landing with half the brakes inoperative. I mean the fact the autopilot was still available shows you that there was not a completely critical flight control breakdown. If half the wing was missing like that Cargo A300 that g...

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by 77west
Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:25 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: When did Boeing 747-400 start to get LCD screens and digital MCP
Replies: 11
Views: 2800

Re: When did Boeing 747-400 start to get LCD screens and digital MCP

I think it was developed about the same time the -400ER was being developed. All -400ER and ERF have the LCD screens from what I understand, with the retrofit being available on other -400/400F models.

QF received their first 400ER in 2002, so around 2003 seems reasonable.

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