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by smi0006
Thu May 19, 2022 12:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Turkish Airlines orders 6 A350-900s
Replies: 32
Views: 9591

Re: Turkish Airlines orders 6 A350-900s

Hope to see some of these 350s in AU! Be amazing if they could reach SYD, MEL!

What is the current TK order book looking like for narrow and widebodies?

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by smi0006
Thu May 19, 2022 12:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Turkish Airlines orders 6 A350-900s
Replies: 32
Views: 9591

Re: Turkish Airlines orders 6 A350-900s

Exciting news for TK! Hope we see them in Australia at some point!!

What does their order book look like now for narrow and widebodies?

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by smi0006
Wed May 18, 2022 3:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022
Replies: 456
Views: 72547

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022

Virgin’s media event scheduled for 27 May has been indefinitely postponed https://twitter.com/chamberlinchris/status/1526766526279262209?s=21&t=01kDCypXDBvwGgTxr2wZ_Q Interesting they cited spike in flu and covid cases as the cause? Don’t want a super spreader event, or put some spending on hol...

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by smi0006
Wed May 18, 2022 2:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022
Replies: 456
Views: 72547

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022

Can't seem to find this posted on the thread yet, (delete post if it has) SMH had an article today on a JQ 787 being pulled from service for two months following a lightning strike for repairs. https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/jetstar-dreamliner-grounded-after-significant-lightning-damage-...

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by smi0006
Wed May 18, 2022 12:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sri Lankan Airlines may be privatised.
Replies: 15
Views: 2448

Re: Sri Lankan Airlines may be privatised.

Ironically when Air Lanka was partially privatised with Emirates purchasing a 40% stake in the business and also became the main management of the airline it became a fairly profitable business. However due to, too much government interference they ended up selling their stake back to the SL Gov. a...

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by smi0006
Tue May 17, 2022 9:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sri Lankan Airlines may be privatised.
Replies: 15
Views: 2448

Re: Sri Lankan Airlines may be privatised.

Ironically when Air Lanka was partially privatised with Emirates purchasing a 40% stake in the business and also became the main management of the airline it became a fairly profitable business. However due to, too much government interference they ended up selling their stake back to the SL Gov. a...

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by smi0006
Thu May 12, 2022 8:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022
Replies: 456
Views: 72547

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022

I should have clarified... is there any benefit in Qantas bidding for the branded Freight operations or would the 146s be too niche? The 146 freighters are operated under the same AOC as the E190/Q400/RJ passenger ops (National Jet Express). It can't be picked up on its own without being spun off w...

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by smi0006
Thu May 12, 2022 8:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022
Replies: 456
Views: 72547

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022

Virgin to hold a hangar event late next week at BNE to celebrate “a new era of flying” Any ideas what will be announced? https://www.executivetraveller.com/news/virgin-australia-launch-teases-a-new-era-of-flying?fbclid=IwAR2-5fzCnS3dm0LpmD9ZtBtIfAAoHNZvyEdcA4Bqgn2d1oveoAkExZmg7b4 Per the other post...

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by smi0006
Tue May 10, 2022 10:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virgin Australia partners with Qatar Airways
Replies: 13
Views: 2847

Re: Virgin Australia partners with Qatar Airways

Interesting does that mean BA,IB,EI avios members can burn points on VA or QF?

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by smi0006
Tue May 10, 2022 8:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Virgin Australia partners with Qatar Airways
Replies: 13
Views: 2847

Re: Virgin Australia partners with Qatar Airways

Sydscott wrote:
Interesting. Also shows just how peeved QR must be with QF over their codeshares with EK.


Indeed interesting about the Avios link up - as that’s BA, IB, and EI too no?

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by smi0006
Tue May 10, 2022 6:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022
Replies: 456
Views: 72547

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022

Virgin signs strategic partnership with Qatar Airways https://www.executivetraveller.com/news/virgin-australia-qatar-airways-partnership Not one I saw coming. I still think there is some tension between AJ and AAB. AAB also keeps being up QR flew to AU during the pandemic where QF didn’t. I’m also ...

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by smi0006
Mon May 09, 2022 6:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022
Replies: 456
Views: 72547

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022

Jetstar to launch 2 new routes from CBR Daily flights to MEL from 1 July 22 4 weekly OOL flight from 16 September 22 https://simpleflying.com/jetstar-new-canberra-routes-melbourne-gold-coast/ Interesting- QF have always kept JQ away from CBR haven’t they? OOL makes sense as a leisure route, MEL is ...

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by smi0006
Mon May 09, 2022 4:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas/Airbus to launch Project Sunrise and firm narrowbody order tomorrow (2 May 22)
Replies: 369
Views: 81052

Re: Qantas/Airbus to launch Project Sunrise and firm narrowbody order tomorrow (2 May 22)

So, I’ll just ask this again, since this is going to be the highest carbon emission per pax mile route in the world by far with a modern airliner, does anyone here who usually supports things like hydrogen power etc. have an objection to this ‘glamor’ route dependent on exorbitant fares to avoid st...

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by smi0006
Fri May 06, 2022 3:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022
Replies: 456
Views: 72547

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022

Indeed - and by all accounts the man is an accounting mathematical genius. I do wonder if it’s time now for a more people focused leader, can’t imagine how employee engagement is traveling atm. And by a more people focussed leader, do you mean one that pleases the staff or customers? I'm not sure i...

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by smi0006
Fri May 06, 2022 2:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022
Replies: 456
Views: 72547

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022

Qantas NS22 new domestic routes, most are already known with the exception of this one 2 weekly PER-OOL from 25 June 22, increasing to 4 weekly for NS23 https://aeroroutes.com/eng/220505-qfns22au Surprised at this, its a long flight which JQ already flies. Wouldnt have thought there would be enough...

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by smi0006
Fri May 06, 2022 2:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022
Replies: 456
Views: 72547

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022

They had delusions of them at QF and all the Jetstar branded airlines at the time. Kind of describes the Dixon era. Remember A380 firm orders were 20 + over 12 rights/ options. Read that this week was the first time Joyce had place an order for new aircraft for any red tail aircraft. (Had done orde...

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by smi0006
Thu May 05, 2022 10:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas/Airbus to launch Project Sunrise and firm narrowbody order tomorrow (2 May 22)
Replies: 369
Views: 81052

Re: Qantas/Airbus to launch Project Sunrise and firm narrowbody order tomorrow (2 May 22)

As appalled as I am, BNE-LAX (coming in under 14 hours) doesn’t require crew rest so they could continue to use the 788s there. They could presumably do the same with SYD-SCL. I’m not aware of them seeking EDTO >180 for the A330s, but that could be a hypothetical 788 route if they do end up with Qa...

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by smi0006
Thu May 05, 2022 8:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022
Replies: 456
Views: 72547

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022

It all sounds a bit GT preaching to the local choir to me. For a start, they haven't ordered enough planes to do this if they are running MEL-LHR, SYD-LHR and SYD-JFK daily. There is also no real capacity increase in moving from the 789 to A35K, it is just about cabin mix given how heavily premium ...

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by smi0006
Thu May 05, 2022 7:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022
Replies: 456
Views: 72547

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022

I wonder how much compensation QF has got from the 787 delays in total, and now this further delay - I’m sure a further discount on some 789 options wouldn’t hurt the case…. Perhaps when the next three are delivered? Surely some delivery slots will be opening up

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by smi0006
Thu May 05, 2022 12:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022
Replies: 456
Views: 72547

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022

Not sure how I feel about this, little sad to see another small player merged into QF. How many AOC will they have now? Qantas Eastern Australian Sunstate Network National jet That must add in some admin and duplication costs. I suppose the labour savings using regionals must be substantial. REX wil...

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by smi0006
Wed May 04, 2022 7:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas/Airbus to launch Project Sunrise and firm narrowbody order tomorrow (2 May 22)
Replies: 369
Views: 81052

Re: Qantas/Airbus to launch Project Sunrise and firm narrowbody order tomorrow (2 May 22)

What are the close to 300 options that Qantas has? As others have said, Qantas quote 299 orders and options for the A320series and A220 series combined. As far as I can tell, Jetstar have on firm order 45 x A320NEO 28 x A321XLR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jetstar#Current_fleet And Qantas have jus...

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by smi0006
Wed May 04, 2022 1:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022
Replies: 456
Views: 72547

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022

BXG-BNE would be at least a 3 hour flight on a Q300. Of course, security screening in BXG could be an issue but this type of route would be more suited to a commuter jet. Maybe QF can convince Alliance to add some secondhand E175s to their Embraer fleet. Going forward that might be the go. When the...

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by smi0006
Wed May 04, 2022 1:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022
Replies: 456
Views: 72547

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022

I remain to be convinced by the QF 321XLR. Obviously its makes DPS easier and cheaper to operate, but I cant for the life of me seeing QF buying a plane just for Bali. PER can do SIN with A320 or B737 just fine, so its not for us. Unless they have plans to offer more frequency on SIN and HKG from S...

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by smi0006
Tue May 03, 2022 7:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas/Airbus to launch Project Sunrise and firm narrowbody order tomorrow (2 May 22)
Replies: 369
Views: 81052

Re: Qantas/Airbus to launch Project Sunrise and firm narrowbody order tomorrow (2 May 22)

Ummm.... yes, they do need some more 789s but their short-term fleet planning has been delayed by Boeing's inability to deliver any for nearly 2 years. They probably need to order another 15 or 20 for delivery later this decade to replace the A333s. Some of the existing fleet will be freed up as th...

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by smi0006
Tue May 03, 2022 4:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022
Replies: 456
Views: 72547

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022

Regarding the A321XLR and A220-300 orders, Qantas has also put out a couple infographics on range of each from the 4 main gateways, any suggestions of potential routes? A220-300 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRtNVbzWYAAf-gG?format=jpg&name=large A321XLR https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FRtMVekXMAETRhD...

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by smi0006
Tue May 03, 2022 12:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022
Replies: 456
Views: 72547

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022

This occurs at slot or curfew controlled airports like LHR where you can't arrive before 5am at this time of year and if you arrive too early or too late for your slot window too often you can get fined or even lose your slot. However, LAX (where QF 11 flies to) is neither. There would be no real c...

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by smi0006
Mon May 02, 2022 10:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022
Replies: 456
Views: 72547

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022

If forecast winds are better than expected they will also hold planes so they meet their slots at the arrival airport, rather than likely being directed into a holding pattern. This occurs at slot or curfew controlled airports like LHR where you can't arrive before 5am at this time of year and if y...

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by smi0006
Mon May 02, 2022 10:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas/Airbus to launch Project Sunrise and firm narrowbody order tomorrow (2 May 22)
Replies: 369
Views: 81052

Re: Qantas/Airbus to launch Project Sunrise and firm narrowbody order tomorrow (2 May 22)

Does this mean that it is possible to fly round the world on 3 separate flights SYD-JFK-LHR-SYD? SYD-JFK BA JFK-LHR and QF LHR-SYD. It's been possible for some time. MEL-DXB, DXB-LAX, LAX-MEL I would expect QF to keep PER-LHR until at least MEL-LHR starts. The question is, can QF secure, at reasona...

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by smi0006
Mon May 02, 2022 11:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas A330-200 Transpacific
Replies: 24
Views: 7636

Re: Qantas A330-200 Transpacific

Would not be surprised if the older -200s end up with express freighters I believe there is an issUe with the older CityFlyer A332s in that they had a light weight floor which may preclude freighter conversion. These floors meant these planes were never able to have the original Skybed J class seat...

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by smi0006
Mon May 02, 2022 8:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas/Airbus to launch Project Sunrise and firm narrowbody order tomorrow (2 May 22)
Replies: 369
Views: 81052

Re: Qantas/Airbus to launch Project Sunrise and firm narrowbody order tomorrow (2 May 22)

SYD-CPT gets mentioned now and then also as part of this project...however is this a real possibility? Also why necessary would this be that more different than SYD-JNB, which is actually a little bit longer than SYD-CPT, which would suggest that B789 could also do it, or is it too far south for ET...

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by smi0006
Mon May 02, 2022 12:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas/Airbus to launch Project Sunrise and firm narrowbody order tomorrow (2 May 22)
Replies: 369
Views: 81052

Re: Qantas/Airbus to launch Project Sunrise and firm narrowbody order tomorrow (2 May 22)

New F on the 380 looks great. Render of cabin shows Business similar seat but much higher walls and executivetravller reports more storage - be good to see the renders.

Hopefully we see a new domestic business seat on the A220 and a regional seat on the 321XLR.

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by smi0006
Mon May 02, 2022 12:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas/Airbus to launch Project Sunrise and firm narrowbody order tomorrow (2 May 22)
Replies: 369
Views: 81052

Re: Qantas/Airbus to launch Project Sunrise and firm narrowbody order tomorrow (2 May 22)

Think Qantas will eventually exercise those 12 options that also replace their A380 fleet. Alan Joyce said this will be the second step once they’ve got sufficient numbers from the first batch of -1000s to over-fly hubs like LAX. https://aviationweek.com/air-transport/airlines-lessors/qantas-ceo-de...

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by smi0006
Sun May 01, 2022 11:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022
Replies: 456
Views: 72547

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022

Disappointing especially if they go into Asia. Maybe we’ve all misunderstood- maybe they won’t head into Asia beyond Bali? Maybe they are for Transcon, Tasman, PI and DPS? If that is the case, they didn't need the XLR. An A321LR would have done it. The A321XLR is really not needed if they are only ...

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by smi0006
Sun May 01, 2022 11:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022
Replies: 456
Views: 72547

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022

200 seats in the XLRs indicate they’ll use standard narrowbody J seats similar to what’s in the 737s. Disappointing especially if they go into Asia. Maybe we’ve all misunderstood- maybe they won’t head into Asia beyond Bali? Maybe they are for Transcon, Tasman, PI and DPS? Hopefully we see a new J ...

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by smi0006
Sun May 01, 2022 10:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas/Airbus to launch Project Sunrise and firm narrowbody order tomorrow (2 May 22)
Replies: 369
Views: 81052

Re: Qantas/Airbus to launch Project Sunrise and firm narrowbody order tomorrow (2 May 22)

Project Winton 321 config of 20J 180Y presumably means no flat J. The 12 350-1000s to be spread over 2025-2028. Very interesting- an XLR with standard domestic J? Below is a nice AU specific rang map; https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/Airbus-A321-XLR_Range-Map.pdf https:/...

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by smi0006
Sun May 01, 2022 10:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas/Airbus to launch Project Sunrise and firm narrowbody order tomorrow (2 May 22)
Replies: 369
Views: 81052

Re: Qantas/Airbus to launch Project Sunrise and firm narrowbody order tomorrow (2 May 22)

Also interesting update to Jetstar group order; Demonstration of this flexibility with confirmation today that Jetstar will convert 20 of its existing A320 family order to A321XLRs, which have the potential to fly short haul international routes, with delivery to start in the second half of calendar...

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by smi0006
Sun May 01, 2022 10:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas/Airbus to launch Project Sunrise and firm narrowbody order tomorrow (2 May 22)
Replies: 369
Views: 81052

Re: Qantas/Airbus to launch Project Sunrise and firm narrowbody order tomorrow (2 May 22)

'This time it's different' is a punch line to people who have studied economic history. Hogwash. By that standard of thought, we would've stopped building jet aircraft every time a Comet crashed. :roll: We've seen new-gen aircraft lessen hub-reliance for longhaul on at least three different occasio...

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by smi0006
Sun May 01, 2022 6:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022
Replies: 456
Views: 72547

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022

Well this will be an interesting month to start. Some special aircraft enroute to SYD https://www.facebook.com/104563622953080/posts/5052278958181497/ 35K F-WMIL decked out with Qantas stickers enroute TLS-PER https://flightaware.com/live/flight/FWMIL 220 YL-ABH also arrived in SYD last night https...

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by smi0006
Sun May 01, 2022 3:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas A330-200 Transpacific
Replies: 24
Views: 7636

Re: Qantas A330-200 Transpacific

The bits about the 747 being retired and the A380 being too large are valid but I still find it strange that the 787 fleet is spread pretty thin especially since it didn't seem that way before the pandemic, when they already flew lots of long haul routes. It is quite interesting however to see the ...

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by smi0006
Sun May 01, 2022 1:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas/Airbus to launch Project Sunrise and firm narrowbody order tomorrow (2 May 22)
Replies: 369
Views: 81052

Re: Qantas/Airbus to launch Project Sunrise tomorrow (2 May 22)

Very exciting times! QF could do with some good PR at this point. 3yrs is not long, can’t wait to see these birds in JFK and LHR - count me in as a loyal PS flyer, hate the stop overs! Curious to also see how many options they have as well as firm orders. I think longer term the 350 along with rout...

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by smi0006
Sun May 01, 2022 1:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022
Replies: 456
Views: 72547

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022

Tomorrow's announcement will also include firm order for its narrowbody fleet So we are looking 12 A350-1000's 20 A220's 20 A321XLR's plus 106 options Interesting the following article refer to A220's with 120 seats and A321XLR's with 206 seats https://www.airlineratings.com/news/qantas-place-large...

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by smi0006
Sun May 01, 2022 12:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022
Replies: 456
Views: 72547

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - May 2022

Exciting news - QF could do with some good PR. Let’s hope they don’t get distracted and loose track of the focus they need to drive customer experience. Seeing some of the posts on linked in by their managers and senior managers - shows how out of touch they are with brand perception, employee engag...

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by smi0006
Sun May 01, 2022 12:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas/Airbus to launch Project Sunrise and firm narrowbody order tomorrow (2 May 22)
Replies: 369
Views: 81052

Re: Qantas/Airbus to launch Project Sunrise tomorrow (2 May 22)

Very exciting times! QF could do with some good PR at this point. 3yrs is not long, can’t wait to see these birds in JFK and LHR - count me in as a loyal PS flyer, hate the stop overs! Curious to also see how many options they have as well as firm orders. I think longer term the 350 along with route...

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by smi0006
Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2022
Replies: 417
Views: 66216

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2022

Something im not sure we are factoring in, or perhaps know how to, is the A321 order. That could see QF or JQ go to a few places, KUL, SIN, MNL?, SGN? others? My thought is that QF will be using the A321, domestically, as an upgauge of the 737. Also, as a somewhat replacement of the A332. But there...

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by smi0006
Fri Apr 29, 2022 4:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2022
Replies: 417
Views: 66216

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2022

That exactly what I said. If SWZ is *not* Sydney for the ASA then QR are a shoe-in. If, however, it is part of the ASA then maintaining double-daily at SYD (via whatever odd means) would be more desirable for them than a split operation. Double daily allows them to offer daily connections on the mu...

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by smi0006
Thu Apr 28, 2022 10:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2022
Replies: 417
Views: 66216

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2022

Not sure how I didn't think of this. There are lots of people in western Sydney from Middle-Eastern and African backgrounds. So a connection to DXB would certainly be very useful. Also, if the likes of EK and QR are using a 773ER, then they'd also have some reasonable level of freight capacity as w...

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by smi0006
Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2022
Replies: 417
Views: 66216

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2022

I've been thinking this week at what would be the most likely routes that would commence once SWZ (Western Sydney International - Nancy Bird Walton) Airport opens. My feeling is that the majority of the schedule would be domestic focussed, but I expect some international ops, both passenger and fre...

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by smi0006
Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2022
Replies: 417
Views: 66216

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2022

New QFLink route Albury-Adelaide seasonal, interesting add and nice to see more regional connectivity - https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media-releases/albury-open-to-aalbury-open-to-adelaide-this-winter-with-new-qantas-route-set-to-take-offdelaide-this-winter-with-new-qantas-route-set-to-take-off...

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by smi0006
Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2022
Replies: 417
Views: 66216

Re: Australian Aviation Thread - April 2022

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... -take-off/
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New QFLink route Albury-Adelaide seasonal, interesting add and nice to see more regional connectivity -

https://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media ... -take-off/

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by smi0006
Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta cuts ribbon to new LAX Headhouse
Replies: 112
Views: 27288

Re: Delta cuts ribbon to new LAX Headhouse

Can I ask - why in the US do the baggage scales not connect to the baggage belt at the Checkin desks? I’ve never seen this outside of the US, surely this must cause injuries to staff lifting bags, or addition labour moving bags from scales to belts? Amazed also with Checkin kiosks they did not adopt...

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