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Iranian Air Force 747's

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 11:04 am
by 3lions
Why did Iranian air force buy so many ex TWA 747.
What were they used for.
Serial #s
19667,19668,19669,19677,19678,19733,19735,20080,20081,20082.



Any guesses would be nice.

[Edited 2004-02-08 03:13:07]

RE: Iranian Air Force 747's

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 11:43 am
by 3lions
I guess no one knows.

RE: Iranian Air Force 747's

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 11:46 am
by garnetpalmetto
A) This belongs in military aviation, not civil
B) The aircraft were sold to the IIAF as tanker/transports, much as the USAF currently uses KC-135s, KC-10s, and soon KC-767s.

RE: Iranian Air Force 747's

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 8:50 pm
by jcded
how does the iranian AF and airlines get spare parts for all their american hardware, ie. 727, 747 and Chinook helicopters with all the embargos. Who would do the conversion to tanker if they are used for this purpose?

RE: Iranian Air Force 747's

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 9:32 pm
by solnabo
Jcded:
It´s called american doublestandard.

Michael//SE
*www.moveon.org*

RE: Iranian Air Force 747's

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 10:07 pm
by swissgabe
Jcded
I don't think it is very difficult to find other countries/companies selling 2nd hand spares for Boeing aircrafts. Even with the embargo ...

It was the Imperial Iranian Air Force who bought them and if not mistaken, one of the planes crashed.

Solnabo
I agree to what you said. But the view changed because of the government change in Iran and not because the US changed their mind.

RE: Iranian Air Force 747's

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2004 10:57 pm
by LAXintl
Both the Iran Air and thru them the Iranian Air Force have been receiving maintenance support for their 747 fleet from both KLM and Lufthansa since the early 1980s.

RE: Iranian Air Force 747's

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 9:54 am
by bobrayner
how does the iranian AF and airlines get spare parts for all their american hardware, ie. 727, 747 and Chinook helicopters with all the embargos. Who would do the conversion to tanker if they are used for this purpose?

As well as buying from other countries (the same hardware sold to Iran was also sold to many others; it's not difficult to get support from third parties), they also developed means of supporting a lot of it internally. Panha used to overhaul most of the country's fleet; with overhaul experience they tried upgrading; with upgrade experience they tried developing new products.

RE: Iranian Air Force 747's

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 10:37 am
by bobrayner
Oops - small omission. I meant "most of the country's helicopter fleet".

RE: Iranian Air Force 747's

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 2:56 am
by GDB
Of the 12 IIAF 747s purchased in the 1970's, 10 were converted to cargo, 2 had a refueling boom added, this work had been explored by Boeing before the Iranian deliveries as part of an unsuccessful effort to get the USAF to buy 'KC-747s'.
Boeing had cited figures showing how the greater range and capacity of the 747 tanker could extend B-52 operations and the presence of an APU being an advantage in quick scrambles when on nuclear alert duty.

RE: Iranian Air Force 747's

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 3:57 am
by GDB
Also it seems like Iranian 747s had an airborne command post role too.

Some Iran AF 747s included in thse pics;

http://www.iiaf.net/aircraft/tankers.html

http://www.iiaf.net/aircraft/aircommand.html

RE: Iranian Air Force 747's

Posted: Tue Feb 10, 2004 8:19 am
by LMP737
Slonobo:

If I'm not mistaken political commentary and links to political sites belong on the NON-AVIATION side of the house.