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Kieron747
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Favourite WW2 Airplane

Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:02 am

Whats your favourite 2nd World War aircraft

(Sorry can't get this french keyboard to display a question mark)

For me, its the Spitfire, and being from Stoke-on-Trent, England (where Reginald Mitchell- the guy who invented it came from) it has a special meaning. It's also a beautiful plane.


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What do you prefer...



Hurricane
Lancaster Bomber
Halifax Bomber
P-51 Mustang
Spitfire
B-52

... and all the others

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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:13 am

P-51D Mustang.

And yes, I've flown one  Smile


Close 2nd, P-38 Lightning. I can only dream of flying one of these!
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:13 am

Have to go with the Liberator.


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Quoting Kieron747 (reply 0):
Hurricane
Lancaster Bomber
Halifax Bomber
P-51 Mustang
Spitfire
B-52

... and all the others


B-52, WTF?  Confused

Harry
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:17 am

Sorry- my mistake

i meant the B-17!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its subnday night and I'm drunk

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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:19 am

Quoting Kieron747 (reply 3):
i meant the B-17!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its subnday night and I'm drunk


A-OK, just a typo.  Smile

Don't know what it is like over in the UK, but here in the states, it's still Sunday.
Haha, just messing with you.  Laugh out loud

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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:21 am

MiG-3. Like a racing plane with guns.

http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/mig3/mig3.html
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:22 am

Its sunday here too- I'm in Canada

and honestly, theres nothing to do in this little corner of Quebec than get wasted!..

and go on Airliners net...

Kieron747

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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:24 am

P-51D

with the FW-190-D9 as a close second
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:27 am

Wasn't the P-51 the plane that had the Merlin engine same as in the Spitfire?
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:31 am

The P-61 Black Widow was also one hell of a plane. Wouldn't want to run into one of these in the middle of the night over the pacific.

Harry

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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:40 am

This one  Big thumbs up

 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:00 pm

My favs are F4U, P-38, P-51D, B-25
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:31 pm

The heavy, air-cooled Republic P-47 Thunderbolt. Sure, you'd be screwed if you took up a 109 in a dogfight, but for ground attack you can light up whatever you want in it.
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Mon Feb 28, 2005 1:26 pm

Yep, I'm with Springbok747 - the Me262 is my favourite aircraft of the second world war.

Trent.
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:42 pm

My vote goes to the DH Mosquito. Nothing else came close to the performance, and the bomber could carry the same bomb load as a B-17 -- but at 350 mph. Spitfire's a close 2nd, and the P-51 after that. Best heavy bomber by far was the Lancaster -- until the B-29 came along.
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:11 pm

Always loved the sexy P-51 Mustang.

Also P-38 and F-4.

But have to give a nod to our P-59... though it didn't serve, it was our first jet.
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:31 pm

Quoting Kieron747 (reply 8):
Wasn't the P-51 the plane that had the Merlin engine same as in the Spitfire?


The P-51 started out with an Allison engine, but its performance was sub-par and it was only the Merlin that brought out the plane's design qualities and made it a war-winner.

But for me the all-time WWII great has to be the Spitfire.


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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:17 pm

i have to say the ME-109 and the ME-262
dont get me wrong im not pro nazi but these were just great aircraft
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:21 am

The B-29 , I would say this is the acft that started modern aviation with high altitude turbochagred engines and a pressurized cabin together for the first time.
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:29 am

Me-262.
P-51.
Spitfire.
B-29


Quoting EclipseFlight7 (reply 12):
The heavy, air-cooled Republic P-47 Thunderbolt. Sure, you'd be screwed if you took up a 109 in a dogfight, but for ground attack you can light up whatever you want in it.

Thanks for explaining me why so many ppl like that "sitting duck"... I personally hate P-47.
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:44 am

Bomber: Can't beat the B-29 for character, load carrying, firepower, and range.

Fighter: P-38. Range, firepower, loadcarrying, and twin engined get home ability. If the Allisons had got along with european gas the P-51 would have gone, exclusively, to the Pacific IMHO.

Attack: P-47. Carried a load and took a beating.
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Tue Mar 01, 2005 3:10 am

1. Hawker Typhoon/Tempest
2. DH Mosquito
3. Avro Lancaster

WrenchBender

Link for Tempest/Typhoon http://www.aviation-history.com/hawker/typhoon.html
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Tue Mar 01, 2005 3:17 am

The heavy, air-cooled Republic P-47 Thunderbolt. Sure, you'd be screwed if you took up a 109 in a dogfight, but for ground attack you can light up whatever you want in it

I wouldn't be so sure about that. The P-47 more than held its own as an air superiority fighter in the ETO, destroying 3082 enemy A/C in air-to-air combat. It did not have the low speed turn radius of the Bf109, but then again it didn't need to. It was optimized for high-speed high-altitude escort duty and bagged plenty of Bf109's, Fw190's ( as well as other twin engine bomber interceptors ). It did have a very good rate of roll BTW.
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:12 am

It's the P-40 and the P-39 for me.

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Didn't the P-40 have an Allison? Were any ever fitted with a Merlin engine?
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:59 am

Leaving contributions to the war effort, kills and all that aside, going on pure gut “I like this one”, I would have to vote for the B-25 Mitchell.


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F86sabre

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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:02 am

Beaufighter, B-25 (especially with hardened nose fitted with multiple .5s) and favourite of all the B-29, even my girlfriend likes the latter; 'Joltin' Josie, The Pacific Pioneer" hangs in our kitchen. Of all the models I built when I was a kid that was the one I just couldn't ever throw away!

Anybody know how many B-29s are still flying?
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:12 am

Ant72LBA,
I think Fifi is still the only B-29 flying. I think there is another one in work in Wichita.

Best wishes,
F86sabre
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:24 am

Cheers F86sabre, shocked at that. I assumed there would be a fair number still flying, know where can I find out more about "Fifi"?
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:25 am

Quoting Hemispheres (reply 23):

Didn't the P-40 have an Allison? Were any ever fitted with a Merlin engine?


Yes, the universal Allison 1710.

However I do believe the P-40F's had the Merlins.

I think those where the ones that where first built for a Battle of Britian Order.
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Tue Mar 01, 2005 10:27 am

Ant72LBA,
Here you go:

http://www.cafb29b24.org/fifi.shtml

Do a search for N529B in the database here at airliners and you will fins a bunch of pictures. When I was 16 or 17 Fifi came to Boeing field. A friend of mine and I went out to the ramp and walked all around it. Pretty amazing. What was also amazing is we had no badges and there were no guards for the plane. We just walked through an open gate and spent about 30 minutes checking the plane out. There was no one around.

Best wishes,
F86sabre

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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Tue Mar 01, 2005 10:36 am

Here is info on the restoration of a B-29 in Wichita.
http://b-29.boeing.com/

Best wishes,
F86sabre
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Tue Mar 01, 2005 10:39 am

Had a grandfather fly the spitfire photo reconnaissance and the other grandfather a tailgunner in the Lancaster so both are very high on the list but have to go outside the family with the P51. Read an autobiography about a pilot in one of the first Merlin engined Mustang squadrons in Europe and they have captivated me ever since.
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Tue Mar 01, 2005 11:43 am

Yeah, FiFi has been here at DAB a few times. First time I saw her she flew in with Strawberry Bitch, a B-24, back in 1990 when I worked at Daytona Beach Jet Center.

More recently she was here last fall, with a Fokker Dr.1 (flying full scale replica), a P-51 (Obsession) and a couple of Stearmans.
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:46 pm

"However I do believe the P-40F's had the Merlins.
I think those where the ones that where first built for a Battle of Britian Order."


Are you sure about that? I didn't think any P-40s had a Merlin attached. The Brits were unimpressed by P-40 performance and shipped them all off to Africa. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think any flew in the Battle of Britain.

I suspect a Merin-powered P-40 would have been a pretty good performer -- the airframe certainly looks capable. The Allisons weren't very effective, with the single exception of the P-38. The Allison-powered Mustang was a dog, and I remember reading an account of a USAAC squadron in Africa getting re-equipped with the Allison Mustangs, and asked to get their Spitfire Vs back.
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Tue Mar 01, 2005 5:07 pm

P-40's didn't fly in the BOB...though deliveries began not long after.

The original British order was for early model P40's...roughly equivilent to the P-40B and C.

A few thousand P-40 F and L models were built with license built Merlins. Not really faster per se', but able to attain the speed of an Allison 1710 powered plane at higher altitudes.

The P40 was a good plane:

In the PTO it could use it's better speed, diving ability, better high-speed handling, and roll-rate to good advantage against the Japanese.

In the Mediterranean/North Africa was effective if used in its element. It was more manuverable than its cheif opponent, the Bf109f, and at lower altitudes ( below 15K feet ) was competitive in speed. The Bf109 retained a better rate of climb, and was signifigantly faster at higher altitudes. ( The V1710 had but a single-stage supercharger, and the airframe drag could not benefit from the increased output at altitude of the Packard/Merlin )
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Tue Mar 01, 2005 5:20 pm

Quoting NKP S2 (reply 34):
P-40's didn't fly in the BOB...though deliveries began not long after.



No it wasn't, but there where RAF types over here on this side of the pond scouting for fighters to buy. Remember that they went to North American to get them to build Tommy-hawks. Instead NA said they could design a new airplane in 4 months......that became the P-51.
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Tue Mar 01, 2005 10:29 pm

P51 with the merlin . First flew from Hucknall Notts the rumor told to me was that RR wanted another Spitfire for engine development but the RAF said no (something about a war being on ) but they could have one of the Alison versions of the Mustang and a legend was born on a little field in Nottinghamshire. -so ends todays story.....
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Tue Mar 01, 2005 11:28 pm

HE-219 Uhu would be my vote. Fast and mean, with lots of firepower and radar! Too bad there are no good recent pictures of one. Sole survivor is in NASM storage in Maryland.

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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Wed Mar 02, 2005 12:12 am

Quoting F86sabre (reply 26):
I think Fifi is still the only B-29 flying. I think there is another one in work in Wichita.


And what a sight it is! One of my real treasures is video I took of these two planes:

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Never, ever leave when the races are over. That is often when the real show starts.
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Wed Mar 02, 2005 3:06 am

"P51 with the merlin . First flew from Hucknall Notts the rumor told to me was that RR wanted another Spitfire for engine development but the RAF said no (something about a war being on ) but they could have one of the Alison versions of the Mustang and a legend was born on a little field in Nottinghamshire. -so ends todays story....."

My father was the young RR engineer at Hucknall given the task of marrying the Merlin to the Mustang. He was quite proud of that, and apparently it wasn't as simple as it looks.
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Wed Mar 02, 2005 3:14 am

P-40's didn't fly in the BOB...though deliveries began not long after.
Quoting L-188 (reply 35):


No it wasn't, but there where RAF types over here on this side of the pond scouting for fighters to buy.


Of course they were here shopping...never said they weren't. The DID in fact purchase P-40's ( HA81a-1 and A2 ). They received over 500 in Sept and Oct of 1940.
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Wed Mar 02, 2005 12:36 pm

Quoting NKP S2 (reply 41):
Of course they were here shopping...never said they weren't. The DID in fact purchase P-40's ( HA81a-1 and A2 ). They received over 500 in Sept and Oct of 1940.


A lot of them ended up in Africa and the mid-east too.
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Fri Mar 04, 2005 2:00 pm

1. North American P-51D

2. Anything else that flies from WW 2 to the present.

3. Give me an F-15, F-16, F-22 anything with an afterburner.
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:11 pm

Spitfire
ME109.
regds
MEL
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Sun Mar 06, 2005 2:43 pm

I would have to say the Corsair. Probably has something to do with my grandfather flying it
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:04 am

hurricane,during the darkest days of '39-'41,when the RAF,and Britain stood alone, a handful of pilots held the line and fought the good fight from Kent to the Balkans,this good ship was the primary vessel till the Spit's primacy in numbers in late '41,I yearn to fly one !
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:07 am

This one owns them all  Smile

 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:40 am

For the transport boys the C-46, C-47 and C-54. Without them the war would have been logistically impossible. They also did medevac jobs. After the Burma road was closed by the Japanese, British and American crews supplied the Chinese forces across the Himalya range (the hump) by airplane
The PBY for maritime reconnaisance, together with the Shorts Sunderland.
The Mossie and the Tiffy, and the Hurricane and Spitfire, of course.
And the Lysander for dropping off countless of Allied agents in Nazi occupied Europe.


Jan
 
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RE: Favourite WW2 Airplane

Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:11 am

Vought F4U Corsair:

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