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Saw An F-104 Fly This Weekend

Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:01 am

I went to the Tico Airshow in Titusville, FL as I do every year (TIX) and though the mostly warbird airshow loses more of its luster every year I did get to see the F-104 Starfighter do a demo, which is always a pleasure. I've seen it before, it belongs to what used to be TransWorldStarfighters and they started doing the airshow circuit around '98 I think, but its been a few years since I've seen them last. They have a single and double seater and are based at St. Petersburg/Clearwater airport in FL. The announcer said it took them 14 minutes to cross the state from St.Pete to TIX!

Anyhow, what an absolutely gorgeous bird. They have it in a sexy blue and white paint job, the thing is so damn clean and it looks every bit the part of 'missile with a man in it'. A 1954 design that looks more modern than most of what's out their flying right now imo.
 
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RE: Saw An F-104 Fly This Weekend

Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:05 am

Lucky you - I wish we could see some Starfighters here in Germany
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RE: Saw An F-104 Fly This Weekend

Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:16 am

I'm glad you liked "our" Starfighters! Both are ex-RCAF airplanes. The single seater was built by Canadair under license (ex 104850). All D models were built by Lockheed though (ex 104632). Both then served in Norway before eventually starting their "civilian" lives.
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RE: Saw An F-104 Fly This Weekend

Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:17 am

Quoting Columba (Reply 1):

Just dig in the mud around some fighter bases  duck 

I remember when I was watching an airshow in F�rstenfeldbruck in the late 80s/early90s where one of the last German F-104 was flying... Since it was shortly after the Ramstein disaster, there were not so many things happening, but it was cool nevertheless...

Other than that, I remember seeing Italian F-104s and G-91s when I was in Italy for holidays in 1992-1994. Good old days...

Anyway, let's enjoy the F-4 Phantom as long as we have it instead...
 
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RE: Saw An F-104 Fly This Weekend

Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:11 am

That is the one aircraft I want to see. IMO, The F104 is one of the best looking fighters.
 
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RE: Saw An F-104 Fly This Weekend

Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:27 pm

Lucky you. The F-104, one of the great century fighters.
 
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RE: Saw An F-104 Fly This Weekend

Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:03 pm

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 5):
Lucky you. The F-104, one of the great century fighters.

Yes, I love it and I miss it so much despite the fact that it claims dozen of pilot lives around the world…including a family friend in 1979  frown 

Anyway I had the great opportunity to attend the phase out ceremony held here in Italy in 2004 (Pratica di Mare AFB): it was an unforgettable day that I will keep forever in my memory!



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RE: Saw An F-104 Fly This Weekend

Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:34 pm

A former co-worker from Germany flew 104's in the Luftwaffe. He said the turning radius was very bad ( something like 6 miles) and to "go around" on low fuel was a mistake.

Because of the "T" tail, the ejection seats were originally designed to exit downward. This was changed later in the C or D models.

It's hard to believe that the wingspan was only 22ft !. In it's day, an F-104 could fly higher and faster than any other fighter in the sky.
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RE: Saw An F-104 Fly This Weekend

Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:06 am

I saw it last year at Selfridge ANGB Michigan. I've seen lots on static display but that was the first time I ever saw one fly. Quite Impressive! The Collings Foundation F-4D flew at the same show. That made my whole year as far as airplanes go.
 
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RE: Saw An F-104 Fly This Weekend

Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:48 am

Quoting MissedApproach (Reply 2):
I'm glad you liked "our" Starfighters

Thanks , I will travel to see a show no problem. What an aircraft ! Even today when I dream of being a fighter pilot I am climbing in an -104 streaking towards the TU-95'S over East Germany!! Come on I am a cold war bratt.
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RE: Saw An F-104 Fly This Weekend

Sun Mar 19, 2006 12:39 am

Quoting 777 (Reply 6):
Anyway I had the great opportunity to attend the phase out ceremony held here in Italy in 2004 (Pratica di Mare AFB): it was an unforgettable day that I will keep forever in my memory!

Luckily some took and published a nice video of it..
http://www.flightlevel350.net/video_streaming.php?id=1836

I was at the farewell display of the F104 in the Netherlands in the eighties. 20 or so simultaneously with afterburners over the public..
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RE: Saw An F-104 Fly This Weekend

Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:06 am

Quoting Keesje (Reply 10):
I was at the farewell display of the F104 in the Netherlands in the eighties. 20 or so simultaneously with afterburners over the public..

..and amazingly there is even a picture in the a.net database.. 1983  eek 


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RE: Saw An F-104 Fly This Weekend

Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:33 am

The lack of fuel tanks of the Starfighter has a good side, as well. To me it is much more beautiful with wing-tip tanks than without. What a great machine. Great noise, great smoke, great look...
 
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RE: Saw An F-104 Fly This Weekend

Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:29 pm

Quoting Keesje (Reply 11):
..and amazingly there is even a picture in the a.net database.. 1983

W-O-W.... I guess that it could be a sort of F-104 "Guinnes Record" formation display...

Thanks for sharing this unusual picture!

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