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Identify This Aircraft In Ulan-Ude

Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:16 am

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...pn=0.002363,0.007135&t=k&z=18&om=1

It's the one with what seem to be floating devices. Any idea anyone?

BTW, check out the area about 3km ESE. Looks like a nuclear missile launch area.
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RE: Identify This Aircraft In Ulan-Ude

Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:23 am

Never mind, the Beriev Bartini doesn't have a t-tail. . .

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RE: Identify This Aircraft In Ulan-Ude

Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:52 am

Thats a Lear Jet with Tip tanks.

Havent you guys seen one before from above?

The next one down Looks like an FK-27 and the Next big one down from that looks like an IL-18.

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RE: Identify This Aircraft In Ulan-Ude

Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:10 am

It looks like one of those Russian ekranoplan devices - a ground-effect vehicle rather than an aircraft. Those look like lifting fan engines in the middle of its wings.
 
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RE: Identify This Aircraft In Ulan-Ude

Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:19 am

Agree the small one is a Lear. The mid-sized one might be an An-26 ?
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RE: Identify This Aircraft In Ulan-Ude

Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:22 am

Quoting Irish251 (Reply 3):
It looks like one of those Russian ekranoplan devices - a ground-effect vehicle rather than an aircraft. Those look like lifting fan engines in the middle of its wings.

It does, except that it's much smaller. The Ekranoplan can be seen here: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...pn=0.002803,0.007135&t=k&z=18&om=1 and another to the right of it.

I checked the Beriev models, but none of them matched...
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RE: Identify This Aircraft In Ulan-Ude

Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:41 am

Could it be a Beriev VVA-14 as depicted here:


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RE: Identify This Aircraft In Ulan-Ude

Tue Jun 26, 2007 8:37 am

Quoting Irish251 (Reply 6):
Could it be a Beriev VVA-14 as depicted here:



Quoting PPVRA (Reply 1):
the Beriev Bartini doesn't have a t-tail. . .

And it doesn't have as much wing as the thing on the photo.
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RE: Identify This Aircraft In Ulan-Ude

Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:52 am

Nobody? Well I'll ask to move the thread to Tech/Ops, maybe somebody there will know....
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RE: Identify This Aircraft In Ulan-Ude

Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:01 am

I don't know what it is, but I disagree on it being a Learjet. The wings are too short, the tip tanks too long, and the horizontal tail too large for a Lear.
 
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RE: Identify This Aircraft In Ulan-Ude

Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:16 am

It looks like an F-104... but that can't be right.

Could it be an IL-28 with the outer wing panels removed?
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RE: Identify This Aircraft In Ulan-Ude

Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:27 am

Looked at it again and maybe it is an ekranoplane of some sort. I thought at 1st glance a Lear
but there's no wing sweepback, however moderate, and I agree with HaveBlue that whatever is on
the wingtip is too large for a Lear.
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RE: Identify This Aircraft In Ulan-Ude

Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:35 am

Quoting MDorBust (Reply 10):
Could it be an IL-28 with the outer wing panels removed?

That seems to get close, except that the IL28 has swept horizontal stabilisers:



It seems though that there were IL28 with straight wings and swept wings; but this interesting site seems to suggest the horizontal stabilisers have always been swept.
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RE: Identify This Aircraft In Ulan-Ude

Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:15 am

Intriguing.

It's not a clipped Il-28. The 'engines' are too small, and you'd be able to make out the cockpit canopy.
You can make out the cockpit windows - I think it's a cabin-type aircraft, with seemingly a rather blunt nose.
However the wing chord seems enormous, with strange circular objects on top of it.
Am I seeing a dorsal air intake or something like that visible just in front of the fin?
I paged through Bill Gunston's Encyclopedia of Russian Aircraft, and didn't find it anyting resembling it.

What are the fighters in front of the (I think that's right) Il-18? I'd almost say F-18s.

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RE: Identify This Aircraft In Ulan-Ude

Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:35 am

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 13):
What are the fighters in front of the (I think that's right) Il-18? I'd almost say F-18s.

That's the local produce, a Su39 on the left and a Su25 on the right I think.

http://www.uuaz.ru/eng/production.htm

Maybe the mystery aircraft is a test model?
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