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A400M Delivery Schedule

Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:11 pm

Seems EADS is pretty confident of limiting delays to not more than six months, although they do appear to leave some room for possible additional delays.

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EADS said the first of the aircraft should be delivered to the French air force in spring 2010, against an original delivery date of Oct 2009.

The company said the first flight test will take place this summer.

The group's head of defence capability marketing Peter Scoffham said the group currently expects a delivery delay of six months, although there is always the possibility that glitches may be uncovered in the flight test. He said he believed other civil and aircraft programmes had never achieved a total delay of less than about 2 years.

If we are six months or a year late on this, for any airplane of this complexity, that would be fantastic," he told a news conference at the EADS factory in Seville, Spain, this morning.

http://www.sharewatch.com/story.php?storynumber=289151
 
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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:49 pm

I thought they had went out of business a month or two ago?
 
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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:50 pm



Quoting RedFlyer (Thread starter):
He said he believed other civil and aircraft programmes had never achieved a total delay of less than about 2 years

That sounds a bit untrue, or too general... What is he refering to here? All other aircraft development programs? And it's a lame excuse anyhow.

Quoting TPA36R (Reply 1):
I thought they had went out of business a month or two ago?

Huh?
 
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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:54 pm

Whoa!

Today's story is a little different. FT indicates that the "on schedule" is a hope, not a fact. (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/aff8dd20-1097-11dd-b8d6-0000779fd2ac.html)

I know it is a paid subscription, but the telling quote is, "... Carlos Suarez, president of EADS Casa and chief executive of the group's military transporter aircraft division, said the company was still targeting first flight of the aircraft "in the summer" but admitted that "clearly there are a lot of milestones to be achieved".
 
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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:27 pm



Quoting Gsosbee (Reply 3):
"clearly there are a lot of milestones to be achieved".

One milestone that was achieved last week was power on, happened on 18 April, LN 001 successfully completed its first electrical system power-on. Power on took place at Station 40 on the final assembly line in Seville, it was then transferred to transfer to Station 35 where all of the on-board systems will be checked, and data automatically recorded for later analysis and evaluation.
 
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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:57 pm

This is at least the 6th schedule since the program finally got a "go ahead" so the reference might be to the other A400 program delays.
 
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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:33 pm

The biggest concern still appears to be the engines.
 
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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:39 pm



Quoting TexL1649 (Reply 5):
This is at least the 6th schedule since the program finally got a "go ahead" so the reference might be to the other A400 program delays.

Somewhat disingenuous, seems still to be the second that I know of. The A400M was only ever supposed to enter service in Q4 2009, now they are saying 2010, a 6 month delay.
 
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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:42 am



Quoting Gsosbee (Reply 6):
The biggest concern still appears to be the engines.

I believe the engines have been the greatest risk proposition in the entire program. Besides the fact that it's an almost entirely new engine, EPI got squeezed out of a lot of profits (all?) by having to compete against PW/Canada. So there is development risk on the most complex component of the project as well as profit risk for the same component's manufacturer (which is also another risk element since it's a consortium).
 
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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:49 am

Here's a couple of articles from FI:

This one is essentially the same as in the thread starter, a bit more detailed:

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...eet-a400m-first-flight-target.html

"With the benefit of hindsight, he (Carlos Suarez) admits that industry may have bitten off more than it could chew with the A400M development contract, given the technical and financial risks involved."

"For a programme of this scale and magnitude this is something we will never do again," he says. "It was probably not wise to launch such a large-scale aircraft programme in parallel with a completely new engine development programme."

Here's another one, rather interesting, which shows that EADS is apparently pretty optimistic about the A400's future sales success...:

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...ial-a400m-sale-to-us-military.html

"Buoyed by partner Northrop Grumman's spectacular US Air Force KC-X tanker contest win with the Airbus A330 platform, EADS is beginning to size up a potential US military requirement for an Airbus Military A400M-sized transport aircraft."

I'd say it's even less likely that the KC-45, but since I've been proven wrong once...
 
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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:21 am



Quoting Francoflier (Reply 9):
Here's another one, rather interesting, which shows that EADS is apparently pretty optimistic about the A400's future sales success...:

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...ial-a400m-sale-to-us-military.html

"Buoyed by partner Northrop Grumman's spectacular US Air Force KC-X tanker contest win with the Airbus A330 platform, EADS is beginning to size up a potential US military requirement for an Airbus Military A400M-sized transport aircraft."

I'd say it's even less likely that the KC-45, but since I've been proven wrong once...

With the USAF buying C-130Js and C-17A/ERs, what would they need an A-400M for?
 
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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Sun Apr 27, 2008 12:41 am



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 10):
With the USAF buying C-130Js and C-17A/ERs, what would they need an A-400M for?

Why would anyone want a wrong sized, wrong engined a/c?
 
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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:51 am



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 10):
With the USAF buying C-130Js and C-17A/ERs, what would they need an A-400M for?

I don't know. I believe they're being a bit overoptimistic about this one.
The A400 fits sizewise between the C-130 and C-17, but I don't see why the USAF would need anything in between those.
 
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Quoting Francoflier (Reply 9):
I'd say it's even less likely that the KC-45, but since I've been proven wrong once...

I think that battle is long from being over.
 
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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:41 am



Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 13):
I think that battle is long from being over.

Oh, I know you do, I've read the threads...  Wink

I was just mentionning the surprise election of the NG/EADS bid, that's all. Even if it was turned down subsequently, it has still been a surprise. And obviously EADS is still on a buzz from it!
 
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Tue Apr 29, 2008 2:28 am



Quoting TPA36R (Reply 1):
I thought they had went out of business a month or two ago?

Yes you are so correct. Only last month EADS went out of business. Airbus is thus no more and Boeing has won. I just don't know why this isn't getting more attention in the media and frankly on this website.

You are the first person to acknowledge what everyone knows to be true. EADS and Airbus are indeed, since scarcely a month ago, out of business.

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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:45 pm



Quoting Francoflier (Reply 14):
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 13):
I think that battle is long from being over.

Oh, I know you do, I've read the threads...

I was just mentionning the surprise election of the NG/EADS bid, that's all. Even if it was turned down subsequently, it has still been a surprise. And obviously EADS is still on a buzz from it!

On that we agree. I wasn't surprised, though, I was in shock.
 
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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:42 am



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EADS unit Airbus has told the Organisation for Joint Armament Cooperation (OCCAR) that the first flight of the A400M military transport aircraft will be delayed by one month, to the end of August

http://www.forbes.com/afxnewslimited...eds/afx/2008/06/04/afx5078334.html

"End of August" sounds like a good chance it will fall into September, and even possibly later.
 
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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:17 am



Quoting Gsosbee (Reply 6):
The biggest concern still appears to be the engines.

This is karma for the political decision to shelve (at the last minute) a proven and reliable candidate.
 
 
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Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:03 am



Quoting N328KF (Reply 18):
This is karma for the political decision to shelve (at the last minute) a proven and reliable candidate.

They are laughing in Longueuil, Quebec.
 
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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Sat Jun 14, 2008 1:15 pm

I understand there is a major conflict between Spanish and French EADS staff concerning supporting and developping the A400M..
Those stupid differences put EADS in the awkward position to deny tendering for a 68 aircraft tender for the US arrmy,informing the tendering party they would not be redy in due time to deliver the aircraft..
Great news for a united Europe !!

http://www.wiwo.de/unternehmer-maerk...-militaertransporter-a400m-296481/
 
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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Sat Jun 14, 2008 2:16 pm



Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 21):
I understand there is a major conflict between Spanish and French EADS staff concerning supporting and developping the A400M..

I suppose this is a consequence of the A400M being a Spanish-led project and EADS being run to a large degree by Frenchmen.
 
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Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:29 pm



Quoting Beaucaire (Reply 21):
Great news for a united Europe !!



Quoting N328KF (Reply 22):
I suppose this is a consequence of the A400M being a Spanish-led project and EADS being run to a large degree by Frenchmen.

Looks like ireland got it right.............

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/06/13/europe/union.php

If the A-400Ms engine just began ground testing (on a C-130E), how does EADS expect to see the A-400M fly by August, or even September?
 
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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:00 am

1) First flight November. (Remember, you read it here first!)

2) Why would it be relevant to the US? Because the C-130 can't carry an FCS vehicle, and the C-17 is seemingly too expensive.
 
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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:19 am



Quoting Jackonicko (Reply 24):
1) First flight November.

I'll bet you a beer it doesn't happen before December 31, 2008.
 
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Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:18 am

No bet. I'm saying November earliest, and that the published dates (July, August or September) won't happen.

But though late, it will be great, and it would fill a yawning gap that will soon open up in US airlift. (Though if I was CINC USAF I'd just by shed-loads of C-17Bs, if someone would pony up the cash!).
 
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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:42 pm

Well, it seems like a summer first-flight is officially off the table:

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Airbus CEO Thomas Enders said he expects the maiden flight of the A400M military transport aircraft to take place "in September or October", rather than this summer as previously indicated.

http://www.iii.co.uk/news/?type=afxn...s&articleid=6774197&action=article
 
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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Sun Jun 29, 2008 11:33 am



Quoting Arrow (Reply 20):
They are laughing in Longueuil, Quebec.

I wonder how long for....  scratchchin 

Quoting RedFlyer (Reply 27):
Well, it seems like a summer first-flight is officially off the table:

Although Enders still seems to think you'll owe him a beer in October...  Smile

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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:14 pm



Quoting Francoflier (Reply 12):
The A400 fits sizewise between the C-130 and C-17, but I don't see why the USAF would need anything in between those.

A lot of vehicles now that used to be carried in a C130 are too heavy after the amour has been beefed up.

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 10):

With the USAF buying C-130Js and C-17A/ERs, what would they need an A-400M for?

Same reason as above

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 23):
If the A-400Ms engine just began ground testing (on a C-130E), how does EADS expect to see the A-400M fly by August, or even September?

They are only expecting 50 hrs of flight testing is needed on the C130 before the A400M first flight. Power on the A400M happened some time back, and the flight test data acquisition module was finished last year.
 
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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:05 pm



Quoting N328KF (Reply 18):
This is karma for the political decision to shelve (at the last minute) a proven and reliable candidate.

If this is true, it doesn't bode well for the KC-767  Wink

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 23):

Looks like ireland got it right.............

No argument here. They got it 100% right. You have to think they have a bit of a "brass neck" though. Ireland has done extremely well from the EU, so much so that they are now giving back more than they take. Funny how they no longer want anything to do with Europe when its time to give something back.
 
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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:58 pm



Quoting Astuteman (Reply 28):
Quoting RedFlyer (Reply 27):
Well, it seems like a summer first-flight is officially off the table:

Although Enders still seems to think you'll owe him a beer in October...

Get me a front row seat at the first flight before the end of the year and I'll supply several kegs of beer (Belgium beer - not that piss water we drink over here).  Wink
 
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Sun Jun 29, 2008 5:25 pm

And if it's before 3rd November, I'll add several bags of salted nuts.....
 
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Sun Jun 29, 2008 6:03 pm



Quoting RedFlyer (Reply 31):
Get me a front row seat at the first flight before the end of the year and I'll supply several kegs of beer (Belgium beer - not that piss water we drink over here).

Hey! I was in a bar in Murraysville, just east of PIT a week or so ago - it had a superb range of Microbrewery beers..... - and Bass - that pisswater we drink over here....  biggrin 

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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:13 am

I don't think we're going to see first flight of the A400M for some time. The first flight of the engine has been delayed again...

Quote:
LONDON - The first flight of the Europrop International engine destined to power the A400M airlifter has been delayed still further, a top-ranking Royal Air Force officer said.

Air Marshal Sir Barry Thornton, the chief of materiel (air) at the Ministry of Defence, told an Air Power Association meeting here Sept. 4 the flight had been pushed back until October.

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=3710036&c=EUR&s=AIR

Guess I won't have to worry about supplying several kegs of beer, Astuteman.  Wink
 
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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:23 pm

From another article:

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As well as the engine hold-up, there are also issues with some of the mission systems, according to industry sources close to the program.

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gener...o%20Seek%20Stopgap&channel=defense

I thought the powerplant was the major hold-up on the A400M. Anyone have a clue what the mission systems are that they are also having issues with?
 
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Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:02 pm



Quoting RedFlyer (Reply 34):
Guess I won't have to worry about supplying several kegs of beer, Astuteman.

Sad face.  Smile

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Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:13 pm



Quoting RedFlyer (Reply 35):
I thought the powerplant was the major hold-up on the A400M. Anyone have a clue what the mission systems are that they are also having issues with?

According to a Babelfish translation of the link

http://www.wiwo.de/unternehmer-maerk...-militaertransporter-a400m-296481/

posted above,

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Reason is bad co-operation between the airbus works in Spain and France. „Between Frenchmen and Spaniards a proper war raves “, said an airbus manager to the magazine. „The Frenchmen do not want to help the Spaniards to solve the problems with the manufacturing. “

Particularly with the building of cab and cockpit there are therefore delays. Also with the engine it hooks. The consortium euro prop. builds the engine on pressure of the governments of France, Germany and Great Britain.

Co-operation between the companies involved runs however badly. Particularly the German MTU does not get its difficulties with the control system according to statement of managers from the Zulieferkreis for the engine into the grasp. „The software problems are enormous “, say a participant. Besides intensify airbus the problems, because the company constantly changes the technical defaults. „

 
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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:43 am

The poor sods that have to fly this thing better hope that the technical documents from Germany and/or France to Spain (and vice versa) aren't being translated with Babelfish. More like Babblemonkey.
 
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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:34 pm

Okay, boys and girls...no one else seems to be paying attention to this program so I'll go ahead and update on it. It appears EADS is expecting to fork over up to 700m more Euros to get this project out the door...

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/stor...4052-B5E4-7EDA05DF77B9}&dist=msr_1

There's also another article floating about out there regarding streamlining the certification process of this bird: http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=3721486&c=AIR&s=TOP

I know we all have our favorite teams, but I think it is a sad day when neither big manufacturer can hit its production targets anymore. Personally, I'm getting anxious to see those giant scimitar blades rotating about at full power. I think it will be just as impressive, if not more, than watching a TU-95.
 
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Sat Sep 13, 2008 5:41 pm



Quoting Wingman (Reply 38):
I know we all have our favorite teams, but I think it is a sad day when neither big manufacturer can hit its production targets anymore.

Until there is either a significant financial penalty or automatic substitution of a competitors product - No.
 
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Sat Sep 13, 2008 6:00 pm



Quoting RedFlyer (Reply 39):
It appears EADS is expecting to fork over up to 700m more Euros to get this project out the door...

They are aiming for a production run of 400 aircraft (about 200 orders so far), 700 million is "only" 1.75 million per frame, not much in the big scheme of things.

In contrast, as far as I am aware, Boeing has paid out about that much if not more for the 10 Wedgetail/Peace Eagle frames, when you start talking about over 50-100 million per frame, it is significant.
 
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Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:06 pm



Quoting Zeke (Reply 41):
They are aiming for a production run of 400 aircraft (about 200 orders so far), 700 million is "only" 1.75 million per frame, not much in the big scheme of things.

That is correct. But that 700 million Euros (assuming it gets to be that high) is going to be spent up front right now. Which means it comes out of their near term profits and that is why the news appears to have impacted their stock price.
 
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Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:09 pm



Quoting Zeke (Reply 41):
In contrast, as far as I am aware, Boeing has paid out about that much if not more for the 10 Wedgetail/Peace Eagle frames, when you start talking about over 50-100 million per frame, it is significant.

I do believe Boeing's stock price took a hit a few months back as well on news of the added costs associated with WT.
 
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Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:52 pm



Quoting RedFlyer (Reply 42):

That is correct. But that 700 million Euros (assuming it gets to be that high) is going to be spent up front right now. Which means it comes out of their near term profits and that is why the news appears to have impacted their stock price.

That is mainly from what I understand to be an accounting standard difference between EADS and Boeing. Boeing uses program accounting, if they are hit with a 700 million delay cost, they spread that out over the life of the project, in this case it would be 400 aircraft over 25 years, or about 44 million a year. Same with development costs. EADS does things differently, it will book the full 700 million in one year.

Actually makes the EADS numbers a little more transparent to investors, I know some investors have successfully sued Boeing over their program accounting methods as it makes it very difficult to track the financial health of the company, very easy to hide cost blow outs, and management mistakes.

This is why Boeing has been able to say to the market that their will be no significant costs to Boeing over the 787 delays, they only look at the portion of delay cost that will be attributed each year. On short lived projects like Wedgetail/Peace Eagle, where you are looking at 10 frames, you do not have as many years to spread the costs over.

I am no accountant/international finance expert, but that is my layman's understanding from reading the financial papers.
 
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Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:09 pm

Zeke,

I believe you have it backwards. Boeing is subject to US Generally Accepted Standards which require development costs to be expensed when incurred. Airbus is subject to International GAAP which allows the development costs to be expensed over an agreed period of time.

This is one of the contentious issues involved with the adoption of International GAAP in the US.
 
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Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:54 pm



Quoting Gsosbee (Reply 45):

I am not sure, that area is not something I have a good handle on, hence my qualifier at the bottom. This is the sort if thing I had in mind, do you find the following reports accurate ?

"Program accounting was developed by aircraft manufacturers because airplanes have massive start-up costs, but most of their revenues come years later. With program accounting, executives average out costs and profits over a decade or so, reporting both profits and costs each year. It’s a similar method to accounting for long-term projects in the construction industry, accounting experts say."

from http://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu/article.cfm?articleid=583

"They also claim that Boeing took advantage of the unusual flexibility provided by program accounting--a system that allows the huge upfront expense of building a plane to be spread out over several years--to cover up cost overruns and to book savings from efficiency initiatives that never panned out."

from http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/02_20/b3783001.htm

"Because the initial cost of designing and building a new airplane can be many billions of dollars, Boeing, along with other military contractors, uses a system called program accounting. Rather than absorb all the costs at once, depressing earnings, Boeing averages them over an estimated number of airplanes it expects to sell."

from http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...9C0CE7D81E3FF931A35754C0A96E958260

"During the earnings call on Wednesday, much of the Street will be grilling McNerney and Chief Financial Officer James Bell on why they believe earnings won't be clipped as a result of the schedule misstep or related one-time charges. Boeing declined to make Shanahan available.

McNerney is unlikely to offer insights beyond the fact that he and his leadership team are disappointed. He likely will reassert that the schedule miss won't adversely affect the earnings forecast for the next year. On that issue he probably is correct. Defense and aerospace contractors have an unusual amount of flexibility in their accounting compared with almost any other industry.

Using what's known as program accounting, Boeing can shift revenue from one pocket to another, change production estimates, and revise payment milestones. Costs are absorbed over a block of airplanes, and accountants can extend the block or change sales and cost estimates. The interesting question is whether Boeing will be required to take a charge for period costs as a result of the delay.

Boeing's program accounting should keep Wall Street investors and analysts at bay for the short term. Eventually, though, the wolves will want to know how Shanahan plans to deliver 109 Dreamliners by the end of 2009. Few on the Street or in the aerospace industry believe Boeing can meet that super-aggressive schedule, particularly in light of the recent delay."

from http://www.nbc4.com/news/14401667/detail.html
 
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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Sat Sep 13, 2008 10:02 pm

Two issues under US GAAP - Project Accounting and R&D Accounting. Your examples are project accounting for a "development" project (787) and your understanding is correct. However, for R&D expenses, those are expensed as incurred:

U.S. GAAP for R&D

SFAS 2, Accounting for Research and Development Costs, requires that R&D generally be expensed as incurred and that each year's total R&D be disclosed in the financial statements. SFAS 2 views the research component of R&D as a "planned search or critical investigation aimed at discovery of new knowledge" that could result in a new or improved product, service, process, or technique. The development component of R&D is translating "research findings or other knowledge into a plan or design" for a new or improved product, service, process, or technique. Development includes conceptual formulation, design, and testing of product alternatives; construction of prototypes and operation of pilot plants; but not routine alterations to existing products, processes, or operations. See the Exhibit for examples of R&D activities under SFAS 2.

The obvious issue is where does R&D end and the project starts. Also, on the 787 for example, there will be ongoing R&D expenses that are expensed while the Project is ongoing. This is why the International GAAP is seen as easier to account (and audit) - everything is treated the same.

The real issue is how do you determine the length of time for the write off. International GAAP leaves it up to the external auditors. US GAAP historically has used preset time periods.

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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:44 pm



Quoting Gsosbee (Reply 47):
More accounting than anyone needs to know.

For a moment there, I thought I had logged into an accounting blog.  Wink But good information nonetheless!

I don't know if this was previously made known, but in an interview with France's defense procurement chief one of the reasons for the delay in the A400M's first flight has been identified:

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Q. A first test flight of the TP-400 turboprop engine did not take place in July. Why not?

A. There was vibration and heating of the engine on the wing.

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=3723664&c=FEA&s=INT
 
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RE: A400M Delivery Schedule

Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:38 pm



Quoting RedFlyer (Reply 48):

I would have to assume since they were talking about first flight, they are talking about the test installation on the C130 test frame, that was to fly 50 hrs before the A400M would fly.

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