|Quoting Lumberton (Reply 12):|
Flight has more commentary on this. Apparently a couple of days for reflection have yielded some interesting conclusions. Boeing is the "winner"?
Reflection might not be the right word: Jon has been very bussy hyping his find for the last week...
Let's recap the raw elements of his story:
Jon has received a Airbus PPT presentation containing a robust summary of the current depressing state the 787 program is in, as well as a factual and correct technical explanation of the reasons for this. Nothing more, nothing less...
Interesting reading for a day or so for sure, but for the last week, Jon has been constantly hyping his find as if he has laid hands on a top secret document full of classified information on the 787 from Airbus and is constantly hinting and suggesting unethical behaviour by Airbus!
Right from the start it seemed to me Jon had embarked on some kind of a 'political mission' here, i.e to show how bad Airbus really is and with his latest article you've linked to, he clearly shows he's not the unbiassed messenger like first pretended, but rather the agitator who wants to judge Airbus' methods.
Let me say that in his judgement, he's assuming quite a lot of things:
- As Keesje has said, who says the PPT presentation is all Airbus knows?
Logic dictates a PPT file is only a summary, used to sum up the key points.
Airbus insight in the 787 likely goes much deeper than what is mentioned in this PPT, which quite frankly looks like it is written for people who SELL and BUY
planes, rather than people who DESIGN and BUILT them. To me this looks like a document which the AIrbus' sales teams can use to aswer comparative questions from A350 customers on the 787 program with. As such, it is likely the PPT deliberately does not focus on a multitude of aspects, because they are deemed too sensitive inside knowedge for it to be shared with customers...
-) Secondly, If there's one bidder to the tanker contract which must be seen as untrustworthy to work with, surely it is Boeing? Airbus definitely is not the KGB, yet they apparently have no problems whatsoever peeping into the Boeing kitchen via a live stream, so it seems!
If I were the USAF
, I'd be reluctant to work with a company which has such an obvious quality assurance problem as Boeing! Not only have they pretty much lost control of the configuration on the entire 787 program for the second time (!), yet they also find internal information of theirs in the hands of their key competitor. What does that say about the security, quality and audit standards at Boeing, you think? LOW LOW LOW
Yet this very company should be entrusted with the all important job of building the future fleet of tankers for the USAF
on time, on spec and without the 'enemies' knowing all about the program's technical problems and weaknesses well before the Pentagon does? ROTFL
Besides, If you allow me, Jon, I fail to understand why you have been focussing for over a week on the alleged lack of business ethics from Airbus, whereas you has left fully uncovered a potentially much more interesting fact we have learnt thanks to the Airbus PPT: the methods used by Boeing to bold together their 787 apparently violate a BAe patent, now held by Airbus
! Why not elaborate a bit on that?
- Is the claim true?
- Does Boeing know?
- Why is Boeing violating intelectual property of others?
- What will Airbus do about it, since they clearly know about it?
- Can they halt the production line of the 787 should they want to?
- Etc.. etc...
true, this could be potentially game-stopping for Boeing... yet you don't deem this interesting enough to dig deeper into????
[Edited 2008-12-10 07:23:07]