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Canadian Forces Order 17 C-130J's

Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:31 pm

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RE: Canadian Forces Order 17 C-130J's

Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:38 pm

Is anybody going to buy the A400?
I would help you but it is not in the contract
 
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RE: Canadian Forces Order 17 C-130J's

Wed Jan 27, 2010 7:57 pm

looks great! thanks for posting this!

It looks like our Air Force's major air assets are all going to be replaced. The new Herc's, new CH-147Fs, CH-148 Cyclone and the CC-17s are all top of the line equipment. We just need to pick a new small SAR aircraft and decide if we want the JSF. What to do with the Snowbirds is another big question that Canada needs to address soon.

I don't want to get all political here, but the recent investments into our armed forces is a refreshing change.

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RE: Canadian Forces Order 17 C-130J's

Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:00 pm



Quoting KrisYYZ (Reply 2):
I don't want to get all political here, but the recent investments into our armed forces is a refreshing change.

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RE: Canadian Forces Order 17 C-130J's

Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:01 pm

I didn't realize the actual number was 17. Is this new?
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RE: Canadian Forces Order 17 C-130J's

Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:20 am



Quoting Lumberton (Reply 4):
I didn't realize the actual number was 17. Is this new?

Nope, not really. It was originally 16 back in 2005, but the government changed, and they tacked on an additional C-130J, and specified that they wanted the stretched C-130J-30's. Primarily, the current fleet composes primarily of the shorter E's and H's, with only a handful of stretched H's. This leaves an opening for FWSAR, which will replace the current C-130H's and DHC-5's currently tasked with SAR duties with a brand new, twin engined aircraft.
 
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RE: Canadian Forces Order 17 C-130J's

Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:32 am

May I say to our Canadian friends, good choice and good luck with the new aircraft.  Smile
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RE: Canadian Forces Order 17 C-130J's

Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:05 pm



Quoting FighterPilot (Reply 3):
I don't want to get all political here, but the recent investments into our armed forces is a refreshing change.

I second that, it is about time our people get some modern equipment to help them get the job done.
 
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RE: Canadian Forces Order 17 C-130J's

Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:13 am



Quoting Venus6971 (Reply 1):
Is anybody going to buy the A400?

When PWC's engine bid got stiffed for political reasons, that virtually guaranteed that Canada would not be a customer.
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RE: Canadian Forces Order 17 C-130J's

Sun Jan 31, 2010 7:26 pm



Quoting Arrow (Reply 8):
When PWC's engine bid got stiffed for political reasons, that virtually guaranteed that Canada would not be a customer.

What about delivery timescales too?
Some of those old RCAF C-130's were just that, old and showing it.
Since Canada was brought a few C-17's, that covers the part of the airlift requirement the C-130J cannot do.
Again, this capability was needed quickly, supporting the Canadian effort in Afghanistan being a major factor.
 
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RE: Canadian Forces Order 17 C-130J's

Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:41 pm



Quoting GDB (Reply 9):
What about delivery timescales too?
Some of those old RCAF C-130's were just that, old and showing it.

Deliveries within 18 months, I'm fairly confident. This contract everyone knew was coming, there was some haggling about specialised kit and the usual American concerns about access to the a/c by non-Canadian born CF personnel (I wonder if that would include American-born CF personnel ?) But I'd bet that some of the parts were being manufactured before the contract was actually signed.

The 'E' models they can still get in the air are, IIRC, the oldest Hercs flying. Lockheed actually come to the CF for info on maintaining geriatric a/c.

Now all that's left to do is finalise the FWSAR (Fixed Wing Search and Rescue) a/c, and this will almost certainly be the C-27J Spartan. I don't think the NG Buffalo idea has a ghost of a chance.
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RE: Canadian Forces Order 17 C-130J's

Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:47 pm

Interesting to see that a platform originally designed in the late 1950s is still going strong. That's what can happen when a company actually takes the time to put the money into a design and get it right! Hopefully the USAF can get on board with more J models to relieve the Es that keep going strong.
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RE: Canadian Forces Order 17 C-130J's

Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:08 am



Quoting CX747 (Reply 11):
Interesting to see that a platform originally designed in the late 1950s i

Even earlier than that... the first ones flew in 1954, with the requirement issued in 1951.
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RE: Canadian Forces Order 17 C-130J's

Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:47 am



Quoting Connies4ever (Reply 10):
Deliveries within 18 months, I'm fairly confident. This contract everyone knew was coming, there was some haggling about specialised kit and the usual American concerns about access to the a/c by non-Canadian born CF personnel (I wonder if that would include American-born CF personnel ?) But I'd bet that some of the parts were being manufactured before the contract was actually signed.

Don't forget our 'special' relationship with the US Military; we have gotten the US to budge up and allocate some of their slots or production to us at times; C-17, M777 are one of many examples of this.

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