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GallianoSbarra
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Air Force One, Maybe...

Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:48 pm

Hi everybody,

I'm just wondering if could be possible that the Air Force One was seen taking off yesterday morning (08 feb 2010) from the "Valerio Catullo - VRN" airport (close to Verona in the north of Italy), around 7.40 a.m.?

Does anybody know anything about that?

Thanks a lot.
 
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RE: Air Force One, Maybe...

Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:55 pm

What is AF1's call sign and is it possible to track it on FlightAware and other plane tracking site just as any other airliners? I am thinking maybe they keep it hidden for obvious security reasons?

AF1 - with the POTUS on board - may have visited one or several of the US Air bases located in Italy? It might be easy to find out by looking at the US President's schedule on the White House official website?
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RE: Air Force One, Maybe...

Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:06 pm

Remember, it's only "AF1" when POTUS is actually on the plane. Not sure what they refer to if officially when he isn't. I'd say it's conceivable it was seen (aren't there actually 2 747's for this role?) AFAIK, BHO was in the D.C.. all weekend (he did a live interview during the Super Bowl pre-game show) and I saw him on the news Monday. Who knows?
 
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RE: Air Force One, Maybe...

Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:46 pm

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 1):
What is AF1's call sign

When the President is on board: "Air Force One".

When the Vice President is on board (but not the President): "Air Force Two".

All other times: "SAM 28000" or "SAM 29000" depending on which one it is.
 
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RE: Air Force One, Maybe...

Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:22 pm

You may have seen on of the 757s which many top officials fly on, I know Sec. Gates is currently in Paris, and he may have been in Italy before that
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GallianoSbarra
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RE: Air Force One, Maybe...

Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:35 pm

I apologize, I got a wrong information before...

That was the E-4B not the AF1, and it was seen in Rome, FCO.
The US Defence Minister was in Rome, at least they say...

http://www.aviazionecivile.com/vb/showthread.php?p=945169
 
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RE: Air Force One, Maybe...

Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:59 pm

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 1):
What is AF1's call sign and is it possible to track it on FlightAware and other plane tracking site just as any other airliners? I am thinking maybe they keep it hidden for obvious security reasons?

As noted above, "Air Force 1" is the call sign. The VC-25 (747) or any other aircraft that may be serving as "Air Force 1" when the President is on board is a US Air Force aircraft, and military aircraft are not included on FlightAware (or other trackers AFAIK).
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RE: Air Force One, Maybe...

Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:26 pm

Air Force One... Navy One... Marine One... has Army One happened yet?

We've had Executive One before...    (just found out today), but it was a bit of a security nightmare I heard...
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RE: Air Force One, Maybe...

Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:22 pm

Quoting Pilotboi (Reply 3):
All other times: "SAM 28000" or "SAM 29000" depending on which one it is.

Sometimes they fly with the SAM callsign, but there are others as well. For example, I frequently hear them using "Venus XXX" on training missions.
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RE: Air Force One, Maybe...

Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:17 am

Quoting mandala499 (Reply 7):
has Army One happened yet?

Yes.. for many years the Army provided helicopter service for the President. It was 1976 when the USMC and HMX-1 took over the duties. The famous photo of Richard Nixon leaving office and flashing the V sign was on Army One..

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RE: Air Force One, Maybe...

Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:28 am

The US SecDef almost always flys in the E-4B, but on a few occasions will use a C-32A, or the KC/VC-135E Speckled Trout, or C-17A/ER.

No, yo cannot track AF-1, or the SAAM flights on flight aware, nor any other US Military aircraft.
 
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RE: Air Force One, Maybe...

Wed Feb 10, 2010 5:24 am

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 9):
The famous photo of Richard Nixon leaving office and flashing the V sign was on Army One..

Wasn't Nixon the one who few "Executive One" too? it was a UA DC-10-10?
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RE: Air Force One, Maybe...

Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:54 pm

Quoting mandala499 (Reply 11):

Wasn't Nixon the one who few "Executive One" too? it was a UA DC-10-10?

Yes, on all counts... A big PR stunt.
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