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RE: Dutch Lynx And 3 Marines Captured In Libya

Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:37 pm

Quoting ptrjong (Reply 48):
Says who?

I think Hillen has said that the Lynx is considered a write-off for us taxpayers...

Quoting ptrjong (Reply 48):
So it's still on that beach?

I don't know, but sattelite-pictures from May are showing the Lynx still on the beach. Also, the Lynx has dead (read: destroyed) batteries, so can't be started up easily without replacement parts.

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RE: Dutch Lynx And 3 Marines Captured In Libya

Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:49 am

Quoting LifelinerOne (Reply 50):
the Lynx has dead (read: destroyed) batteries

How come they were destroyed?
And is it really that hard to replace batteries? Is it a special kind?


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RE: Dutch Lynx And 3 Marines Captured In Libya

Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:37 pm

Quoting LifelinerOne (Reply 50):
Also, the Lynx has dead (read: destroyed) batteries, so can't be started up easily without replacement parts.

It would make a great scene of the Last Flight of the Phoenix, I for certain would come to see it land again at De Kooy! 
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RE: Dutch Lynx And 3 Marines Captured In Libya

Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:37 pm

Oh oh, fighting is picking up in the Sirte area, just this instant……….perhaps we´ll see this gracious machine somewhere on the news soon.


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RE: Dutch Lynx And 3 Marines Captured In Libya

Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:33 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14999390

The fight has now moved to Sabha.

Still no sign of the Lynx.
 
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RE: Dutch Lynx And 3 Marines Captured In Libya

Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:33 am

Quoting Bennett123 (Reply 54):

Still no sign of the Lynx.

I am watching CNN quite regularly…………no updates on the poor Lynx yet.
Anybody know anymore?


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RE: Dutch Lynx And 3 Marines Captured In Libya

Tue Sep 27, 2011 1:10 pm

Quoting notaxonrotax (Reply 55):

Well, any update would hardly be Breaking News on CNN.
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RE: Dutch Lynx And 3 Marines Captured In Libya

Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:31 pm

Quoting ptrjong (Reply 56):

Well, any update would hardly be Breaking News on CNN.

No, I realize that.
I was actually referring to the video footage they air……….she may appear in there at some stage.

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RE: Dutch Lynx And 3 Marines Captured In Libya

Thu Oct 13, 2011 6:15 am

Okay,

A few weeks down the line now, the beaches in Sirte are "clear", so where's the poor Lynx, and what will happen to her?

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RE: Dutch Lynx And 3 Marines Captured In Libya

Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:55 pm

Hope you don't mind me asking, but why are you so bothered about it that you keep asking? I mean, the entire Lynx fleet was written off years ago. The only reason they are still around, is because of delays with the replacement NH90 program. The helicopter was already iffy when it got abandoned 7 months ago. If the fighting did not finish it off, then looters and mother nature (salt/corrosion) certainly will have done so!
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RE: Dutch Lynx And 3 Marines Captured In Libya

Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:53 am

... actually, I'm interested to know its fate too.
Even though it's probably no use as a helicopter now, that airframe could turn up as quite a design feature somewhere...
 
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RE: Dutch Lynx And 3 Marines Captured In Libya

Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:58 am

I did wounder if had had been used by the former regime.

However, iirc, it was not airworthy, in which case, I suspect that petertenthije is correct.
 
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RE: Dutch Lynx And 3 Marines Captured In Libya

Mon Oct 24, 2011 4:27 pm

Dutch press reports Dutch journalists found her!!
The rebels painted 217 on her…….the date the revolution began.

Guess what, according to AD-newspaper the Dutch government want her back!! (Dutch only)

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/7524/Opstand-...gekaapte-helikopter-in-Libie.dhtml

Quoting petertenthije (Reply 59):

Hope you don't mind me asking, but why are you so bothered about it that you keep asking?

It is amazing, isn´t it?
An aviation enthusiast on an aviation website?
The mind boggles………

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RE: Dutch Lynx And 3 Marines Captured In Libya

Mon Oct 24, 2011 5:42 pm

Hmh would have been nice if they'd put a photo of her...
I guess there are still some structural parts that could be worth something as spares.

Would be amazed if she ever flies... sad really.
 
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RE: Dutch Lynx And 3 Marines Captured In Libya

Mon Oct 24, 2011 6:35 pm

Video of the Lynx as it is now. As I already said, no longer a helicopter but a lawn ornament.

http://www.rtl.nl/xl/#/u/b968bb8a-7790-4f06-b417-1fe8b830ad3f/
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RE: Dutch Lynx And 3 Marines Captured In Libya

Mon Oct 24, 2011 8:43 pm

Sadly, it will never fly again.

If the NL needs another Lynx, then it would be best to buy one from the UK.
 
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RE: Dutch Lynx And 3 Marines Captured In Libya

Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:13 pm

Quoting petertenthije (Reply 64):
Video of the Lynx as it is now. As I already said, no longer a helicopter but a lawn ornament.

For some reason I couldn't get that video to play other than the first .25 seconds with the reporter in the foreground. Perhaps the new Libyan government can put that on their new government building's lawn like the former regime leader used an A-4 Skyhawk as a propaganda tool in his compound.
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RE: Dutch Lynx And 3 Marines Captured In Libya

Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:07 pm

A Dutch political party apparently wants to put this chopper on display, somewhere in the mighty city of The Hague.
Where can I tick the "Yes"-box please?

Great idea, instead of putting some hideous "art" on some roundabout--> display a bit of real life aviation history.

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RE: Dutch Lynx And 3 Marines Captured In Libya

Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:30 pm

A Heavy Maintenance Visit (HMV) could bring here back in flying condition. No major structural damage is visible, only a lot of sand. The damaged or missing parts can be repaired or replaced.

The main question however is :
Are the costs for transportation back to the Netherlands plus the HMV lower than the total cost of a (secondhand) replacement aircraft (if needed).
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RE: Dutch Lynx And 3 Marines Captured In Libya

Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:07 pm

http://uk.ask.com/wiki/NH-90?qsrc=3044

It looks as if by the time this was all done that the NH90 will have arrived.
 
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RE: Dutch Lynx And 3 Marines Captured In Libya

Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:53 pm

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/7524/Opstand-...og-altijd-op-strand-in-Libie.dhtml

Sorry, only in Dutch.

She is still sitting on the beach, and the government still want her back from Libya!


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RE: Dutch Lynx And 3 Marines Captured In Libya

Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:32 pm

Quoting notaxonrotax (Reply 70):
She is still sitting on the beach, and the government still want her back from Libya!

They really don't have anything better to do than to wine about an old helicopter? Most likely it was paid off already. You don't need to be a genius to figure out that if you use equipment in a war zone, you may lose it. Tough luck. At least everyone made it home safely, that's the main thing.
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RE: Dutch Lynx And 3 Marines Captured In Libya

Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:17 pm

The Dutch Lynx is going back home .
This Monday she is transported to Tripoli. Preparation will be made for a transport to the Netherlands by sea.

Copyright : Dutch MOD.

[Edited 2012-02-27 10:19:59]
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RE: Dutch Lynx And 3 Marines Captured In Libya

Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:20 pm

They should have bombed it while it was still sitting on the beach in Lybia. At least it would have saved us the hassle & the cost of transport.

These will be the most expensive spare parts we have ever sourced. There's really nothing else to gain. You don't really believe there is a need to return this one to flying standards ?
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RE: Dutch Lynx And 3 Marines Captured In Libya

Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:19 pm

These will be the most expensive spare parts we have ever sourced

... not really. It'll fit in a container and shipping costs to the netherlands from north africa are quite reasonable.
lots of structural spares to be had from that frame...
 
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RE: Dutch Lynx And 3 Marines Captured In Libya

Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:41 am

Normally i would agree with you but the Lynx is on the way out of service. There are no urgent shortfalls or requirements for us to need this Lynx back in the air again while officials have already admitted it will be written off. Then there's still the current pool of spares, not to mention the possibility of taking them of those that we will be parking as further maintenance requirements come up.

Adding it all up, why would you go to the trouble & expense to get it shipped back ?
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