doesnt look like it - def shot down by rebels - they claimed so and no one has contradicted
|Quoting GDB (Reply 46):|
France confirms that first strikes have occurred against Libyan government vehicles, one confirmed destroyed.
Since Qaddafi's forces are now near the outskirts of Benghazi - I'd like to know what happens when things get into a merge. I think that's exactly what he wanted when he ignored his own ceasefire yesterday
|Quoting Bureaucromancer (Reply 48):|
significant difference between "no ground forces" and "all means excluding foreign occupation".
Technically yes - they can deploy covert high-spec units to direct the planes - well the legal lacuna exists to do so. But the rebels simply aren't strong enough to hold out for very long. Also remember Qaddafi has cut off gas food and water. food can be replenished - water i doubt very much. IMO this is going to be one very long status quo enforcement - and after a while say 2 months to a year the rebels will be wiped out by irregular militia.
Remember gaddafi cant advance but neither can the rebels - at most they may have time to evacuate the leadership - and the people will be left to die.
|Quoting Aesma (Reply 62):|
There was no UN resolution, in that case.
There was a retrospective resolution granting legality to that operation. In any case Dominique de Villepin made it abundantly clear that existing resolutions at the time provided enough legal cover since they did not specifically 'rule out" the use of force.
yes the military op will be a cakewalk - just like gulf war 1 was and 2003 was even more so .... the nightmare will be the peacekeeping cus this
will be replaced with this
|Quoting francoflier (Reply 50):|
Yes, but none of those governments have openly threatened Western countries with state terrorism, not to mention that Ghaddafi's past foray into terrorism gives his threat plenty of credibility.
and what replaces him will be far far worse - when a govt is as tyrannical as qaddafi's the only opposition that survives are tough ruthless islamo-fascist types. Initially yes the rebel government will be all cuddly and moderate till they basically give way to Bolsheviks, anarchist, Robespierre type loonies.
true - but in the larger context what exact message does this send to Iran????? even if you give us your nuke programme - we will remember and when we get an opportunity we will destroy you. After all Libya was "WELCOMED BACK" into the international fold and past mistakes forgiven when it publically denounced its nuclear programme.
If anyone in Iran was advocating that they give up their WMD programme - they and their families are all on their way to Evin prison to be tortured and executed within the next few weeks.