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Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:48 am

The Presidential Transport for the Mexican Government arrived today for Air Force tests at Santa Lucia airbase. It´s going back to the US after a few days for internal fitting.

It looks nice:

 
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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:56 am

Beautiful !! Hope to see it sometime up close. I wish it had bold letters -- MÉXICO. The " Fuerza Aerea Mexicana " script looks too small.
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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:07 am

I can't find Santa Lucia airbase location is at. What city is in? What is airport code?


Thanks,

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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:12 am

Quoting Q (Reply 2):
I can't find Santa Lucia airbase location is at. What city is in? What is airport code?

It is 5 miles to the North of the runways 23s at MEX. There is the VOR Lucia. You might find that. That is where the base is located.
 
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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:26 am

Quoting Q (Reply 2):
I can't find Santa Lucia airbase location is at. What city is in? What is airport code?


19 nm to the north.

http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=mex-MMSM&PM=b%3Adisc7%2B%25t&MS=wls&DU=nm

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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:42 am

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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:50 am

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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:04 am

The plane was baptized with the name José María Morelos y Pavón which was a priest that led the war of independence from Spain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Mar%C3%ADa_Morelos


Interesting tidbit. Back in the 80s, when it was popular for airlines to name their aircraft, AM had one of its DC-10-30s also wearing this name. Mexicana on the other hand used pre-colombian Mexican native languages to name their aircraft.


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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Fri Oct 10, 2014 7:35 am

Will the B757-200 be re-registered or immediately retired given the B787-8 also got TP-01 as its military registration?
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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:25 am

That is a beautiful, gorgeous plane. I love the logo on the tail

Nice and clean. Excellent
 
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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:27 am

Why does Mexico have a plane and the UK doesn't? Again this is so embarrassing.
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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:39 am

That is one stunning colourscheme.
I find most presidential / VIP colourschemes to be so awful. I dislike intensely the French air force efforts. The Luftwaffe is classy but a bit dull. The USAF VIP scheme may have been designed by Jackie Kennedy but needs a makeover...
... And the RAAF one down here is just embarrassing...
Perhaps the RAAF should paint it's upcoming VIP A330MRTT in Wunula Dreaming's colours seeing as Qantas doesn't want them any more...
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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:09 am

Quoting frostyj (Reply 10):

Why does Mexico have a plane and the UK doesn't? Again this is so embarrassing.

Embarrassing for which one?
 
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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:57 am

Knowing how expensive this is going to be, I guess México should be embarrassed .... then again we always like Image before substance... * sigh *

Nice colors .... but I Would have used bigger Letters on the fuselage...

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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:04 pm

Quoting bunumuring (Reply 11):
Perhaps the RAAF should paint it's upcoming VIP A330MRTT in Wunula Dreaming's colours seeing as Qantas doesn't want them any more...

Now that's a fine idea.
 
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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Fri Oct 10, 2014 3:00 pm

Quoting LatinPlane (Reply 5):
Que guapo.....    .

Quoting frostyj (Reply 10):
Why does Mexico have a plane and the UK doesn't?

Oh...but the UK has...  cheerful  ...


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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Fri Oct 10, 2014 4:41 pm

These were taken when it was still in Charleston.
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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Fri Oct 10, 2014 9:18 pm

Quoting AR385 (Reply 3):
It is 5 miles to the North of the runways 23s at MEX. There is the VOR Lucia. You might find that. That is where the base is located.
Quoting ghost77 (Reply 4):
19 nm to the north.


http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=mex-MMSM&PM=b%3Adisc7%2B%25t&MS=wls&DU=nm

g77

Oops. Sorry. It seems I had no idea either.

Quoting Thomas_Jaeger (Reply 8):
Will the B757-200 be re-registered or immediately retired given the B787-8 also got TP-01 as its military registration?

Probably re-registered and kept as a back up. It has a VIP interior. Or maybe sold to another country. It is almost 30 years old though.

Quoting TheRedBaron (Reply 13):
Knowing how expensive this is going to be, I guess México should be embarrassed .... then again we always like Image before substance... * sigh *

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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Sat Oct 11, 2014 4:21 am

Back in the 80s, this used to be the Mexican presidential transport plane:


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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Sat Oct 11, 2014 9:58 pm

I can't wait to get that plane as a 1/400 model to add to my collection. Looks awesome!
Also saw photos of the new Turkish A330 Prestige presidential jet - another superb scheme!
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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:51 am

Photo of the arrival in Dallas Love Field:

http://twitter.com/TheHUBRoutes/status/521202073002467328
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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:04 pm

Quoting LatinPlane (Reply 7):
The plane was baptized with the name José María Morelos y Pavón which was a priest that led the war of independence from Spain.

You are kidding....right?

Quoting frostyj (Reply 10):
Why does Mexico have a plane and the UK doesn't? Again this is so embarrassing

Yep!...this is embarrassing for the country as a whole, not for the out of touch with reality political elites.
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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:45 pm

Quoting Marcus (Reply 21):
You are kidding....right?

Why is that wrong?

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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:10 pm

The main leader was Miguel Hidalgo, Jose Maria Morelos took over after Hidalgo's death in 1811.

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But then I would have this plane to be named something like Quetzalcoatl or Kukulkan


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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:14 pm

Funny how all the media started all this buzz about the presidential 787 arriving in the country... And only a few hours later it took off back Stateside.

Not even half a day on the ground in Mexico.

And unlike the very well known interior configuration of the VC-25As, I bet the config for this 787 will be very jealously kept a secret. Just like with the current 757.

By the way, does anyone know why the "3523" AF designator? Bet it's their temporary AF reg. until it officially becomes the new "TP-01".

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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Fri Dec 18, 2015 6:27 pm



Quoting AR385 (Reply 17):
Oops. Sorry. It seems I had no idea either.

Well, the Presidential Hangar is shown here.....

http://www.milenio.com/politica/Ubic...dencial_MILIMA20151104_0316_11.jpg


Quoting AM (Reply 24):
Bet it's their temporary AF reg. until it officially becomes the new "TP-01".

The plane had the (temporary?) registrations TP-01/XC-MEX when it entered interior outfitting.


I guess it's worthwhile to post this here also.....

http://www.milenio.com/politica/nuev...o-Pena_Boeing_787_0_647935463.html

Though I find it curious that the press keep saying that it will carry a maximum of 242 passengers. For the price, one would expect, at least, a much reduced pax capacity in well-appointed cabin sections after modifications. Not a quick-change kit.

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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Thu Dec 24, 2015 10:32 pm

And it seems only fitting for this to be here as well...has to be ready for its first official mission a Suiza ...

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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:18 am

Why is the RAT deployed? Look just behind the RHS main gear.

I do think this is one of the better HOS color schemes.
 
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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:17 am

Quoting FrmrKSEngr (Reply 27):

Why is the RAT deployed? Look just behind the RHS main gear.

I do think this is one of the better HOS color schemes.

If this was part of the acceptance test flight, deployment of the RAT was probably part of the test.

Also, I agree, that's a nice scheme. Kudos to the designer.
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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Mon Dec 28, 2015 6:10 pm

Quoting AM (Reply 24):
By the way, does anyone know why the "3523" AF designator? Bet it's their temporary AF reg. until it officially becomes the new "TP-01".

It must be, they have the rear of the jet parked next to a public street
and under the 3523 decal you can see another registration "XP- somethin"

Wonder when the jet will be delivered tyo the Mexican AF?
 
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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Mon Dec 28, 2015 6:50 pm

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 15):
Oh...but the UK has...

My god the UK has a massive quad jet transporter plane! Oh... wait....  
 
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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Mon Dec 28, 2015 9:15 pm

Quoting Flighty (Reply 30):
My god the UK has a massive quad jet transporter plane! Oh... wait....

We won't have anything to tease our British friends with once they get hold of their reconfigured MRTT...    ...

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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:16 pm

Someone posted over the weekend that the Mexican AF1 was on it's ferry flight home.

HOWEVER..... I saw it still parked at Assocoated Air center this morning at KDAL.

I'm starting to wonder if this bird and the Kuwaiti 748I BBJ want to go home or not   
 
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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Tue Jan 12, 2016 10:31 pm

Do they still have the ex-UA 737-322?
 
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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Mon Feb 01, 2016 7:41 pm

Quoting Sooner787 (Reply 32):
I'm starting to wonder if this bird and the Kuwaiti 748I BBJ want to go home or not

This might have something to do with that.....

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...-study-on-787-8-for-presid-421464/

Kinda like putting the horse before the cart. But it seems to have been resolved favorably.

Although it does show how markedly the thing depreciates after leaving the lot.    Or was it just clever negotiation by the dealer?   

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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:06 pm

Very interesting. I wonder if the Kuwaitis will have that consultantcy firm kick the tires

on their new 748I BBJ before handing over the final check   


Either way, those jets are taking up a LOT of ramp space at Associated Air center KDAL.

I"m sure they AAC folks will be glad when the customers take their big beautiful birds home
 
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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:13 pm

FYI....drove by Love Field on my way to work this morning,
and the Mexican AF1 is missing.

Did they finally take delivery?
 
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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:39 am

Quoting Sooner787 (Reply 36):

FYI....drove by Love Field on my way to work this morning,
and the Mexican AF1 is missing.

Did they finally take delivery?

Yes, arrived yesterday Wednesday early morning at MEX

Below a link (sorry, only in spanish)


http://www.jornada.unam.mx/ultimas/2...espues-de-la-media-noche-1193.html
 
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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:37 pm

Well, that freed up some ramp space at Associated Air Center.

Now all they need of for the Kuwaiti's to come pick up their shiny new 748 BBJ
 
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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:03 pm

It appears they changed the livery?.....

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...vers-first-head-of-state-b-421686/

Quote:
"US VIP completions and engineering company Associated Air Center (AAC) has delivered the first Boeing BBJ 787-8 to be configured for head-of-state operations.

The handover of aircraft registration TP-01 marks the eighth widebody airliner completion for the StandardAero subsidiary, and its second to this undisclosed VVIP customer – believed to be the President of Mexico, who in 1989 took delivery of the first head-of-state-configured Boeing 757-200. That aircraft – registered as TP-01 and re-registered as TP-02 – remains in presidential service."
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RE: Mexican Government 787 In Mexico

Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:53 pm

Quoting Devilfish (Reply 39):
It appears they changed the livery?.....

I think AviationWeek is using a picture of another 787 VIP at AAC. The Mexican Government plane is in MEX in the State Colors.

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