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Sun Mar 17, 2019 8:50 am

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I've had enough of this site. Links in posts quit and they won't let you see what's wrong or edit or delete anything. I can see why so many of the posters who made the old site good are gone.
Micromanagement is the worst of incompetence.


Not sure what this has to do with SpaceX, but there we go!



Anyone have any news on the progress of the next FH?

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Sun Mar 17, 2019 3:08 pm

trent900 wrote:
Nomadd wrote:
I've had enough of this site. Links in posts quit and they won't let you see what's wrong or edit or delete anything. I can see why so many of the posters who made the old site good are gone.
Micromanagement is the worst of incompetence.


Not sure what this has to do with SpaceX, but there we go!



Anyone have any news on the progress of the next FH?

D.

LMGTFY...

April 7 launch date:
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/15/spacex-falcon-heavy-arabsat-6a-launch-april-7-sources.html

Air Force certification stuff
https://spaceflightnow.com/2019/03/14/air-force-sees-upcoming-falcon-heavy-launches-ask-key-to-certifying-reused-rocket-hardware/
 
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Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:07 pm

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The SpaceX launch pad in south Texas looks a little different today.

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Nomad, this was google's messup not the site. if you copy the link out the image is bad. What site do you copy from?

Is this what you were trying to post ?

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Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:35 am

Starhopper did a test firing a few minutes ago....
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Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:11 am

Well I can't tell much from the video:
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1113613409767964673

But it doesn't look like it blew up
(Well it kinda looks like that but not if you look closely and know what actual launch pad rocket failures look like.)

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Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:26 am

Better video here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vfiM10lc1M


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Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:04 am

What? What is that fire from the right side of the video? I'm confused...
 
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Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:07 pm

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What? What is that fire from the right side of the video? I'm confused...


The flame to the right is the methane flare. They burn excess and unused off because it’s a greenhouse gas. Oxygen is usually vented into the atmosphere.

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Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:09 pm

Live in about nine hours:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXMGu2d ... e=youtu.be

The sky gods favor the launch, with only a 20% chance of prohibiting weather conditions.
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Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:03 pm

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Live in about nine hours:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXMGu2d ... e=youtu.be

The sky gods favor the launch, with only a 20% chance of prohibiting weather conditions.



Let's see if they can improve on their booster landings from 2 to 3.
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flyingturtle wrote:
Live in about nine hours:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXMGu2d ... e=youtu.be

The sky gods favor the launch, with only a 20% chance of prohibiting weather conditions.



Let's see if they can improve on their booster landings from 2 to 3.

The center core is the most important. The first time it wasn't as big a deal since it was an old block version and likely not have been reused. But this one is a block 5 and will be reused. As the core, being the most expensive/modified booster, they really want it back in one piece and healthy!

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Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:33 pm

Tugger wrote:
casinterest wrote:
flyingturtle wrote:
Live in about nine hours:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXMGu2d ... e=youtu.be

The sky gods favor the launch, with only a 20% chance of prohibiting weather conditions.



Let's see if they can improve on their booster landings from 2 to 3.

The center core is the most important. The first time it wasn't as big a deal since it was an old block version and likely not have been reused. But this one is a block 5 and will be reused. As the core, being the most expensive/modified booster, they really want it back in one piece and healthy!

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Definately is important.
Spacex had a delay, so let's see if it happens tonight.

22:35 UTC window will open.

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Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:46 pm

They did it!

All boosters have landed, either on terra firma or on OCISLY.
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Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:50 pm

Great show, inspiring, important and entertaining too!
 
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Crazy awesome! That is a beast of a rocket and then to have all the pieces separate and return safely as planned is just amazing.
It is becoming normal now, all the other companies are doing the weird way and just throwing things away!

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Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:50 pm

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They did it!

All boosters have landed, either on terra firma or on OCISLY.


The angle of the feed makes it look like the main booster may have damaged one of the legs, but still a good landing considering it was coming in at a very fast trajectory. It blows my mind how they can get 2 rockets back within a mile of the pad after having gone over 60+ KM up and about 30 Km downrange. ( they go higher and further prior to the boost back).
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Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:45 pm

casinterest wrote:
flyingturtle wrote:
They did it!

All boosters have landed, either on terra firma or on OCISLY.


The angle of the feed makes it look like the main booster may have damaged one of the legs, but still a good landing considering it was coming in at a very fast trajectory. It blows my mind how they can get 2 rockets back within a mile of the pad after having gone over 60+ KM up and about 30 Km downrange. ( they go higher and further prior to the boost back).


I don't know about the main booster, but it seemed to me from the footage that one of the side boosters was sitting slightly at an angle after landing.
(The one further afield from the camera)
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Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:43 pm

Francoflier wrote:
casinterest wrote:
flyingturtle wrote:
They did it!

All boosters have landed, either on terra firma or on OCISLY.


The angle of the feed makes it look like the main booster may have damaged one of the legs, but still a good landing considering it was coming in at a very fast trajectory. It blows my mind how they can get 2 rockets back within a mile of the pad after having gone over 60+ KM up and about 30 Km downrange. ( they go higher and further prior to the boost back).


I don't know about the main booster, but it seemed to me from the footage that one of the side boosters was sitting slightly at an angle after landing.
(The one further afield from the camera)

Pretty common to have one or two of the legs crush down a bit and induce some lean. It always looks so gentle and graceful, but they call it a “hover-slam” for a reason.
 
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Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:12 am

Another bit of good news: both fairings were recovered successfully and are planned for reuse at a later date when SpaceX lofts its StarLink network.

No Mr. Stevens for these recoveries though I don't know if a recovery using the vessel was attempted. The fairings were recovered after a soft ocean landing.
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The recovery is not really a surprise for anyone here I am sure, The fairings have been recovered from an ocean several times now, Apparently there is less concern about salt water and no large issue with the touchdown process.


And... I just have to share this pretty awesome picture:
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Still doesn't best my favorite pics of the Delta V Heavy (my opinion alone) but pretty damn close!

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Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:55 am

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Francoflier wrote:
casinterest wrote:

The angle of the feed makes it look like the main booster may have damaged one of the legs, but still a good landing considering it was coming in at a very fast trajectory. It blows my mind how they can get 2 rockets back within a mile of the pad after having gone over 60+ KM up and about 30 Km downrange. ( they go higher and further prior to the boost back).


I don't know about the main booster, but it seemed to me from the footage that one of the side boosters was sitting slightly at an angle after landing.
(The one further afield from the camera)

Pretty common to have one or two of the legs crush down a bit and induce some lean. It always looks so gentle and graceful, but they call it a “hover-slam” for a reason.

The last I hear of Mr. Steven was it had lost two arms and its net to misadventure. I don’t think it’s been repaired yet, so I don’t think it was available for a catch attempt.
 
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Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:44 am

SpaceX's Center Core Booster for Falcon Heavy Rocket Is Lost at Sea

https://www.space.com/spacex-loses-falc ... t-sea.html
 
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SpaceX's Center Core Booster for Falcon Heavy Rocket Is Lost at Sea

https://www.space.com/spacex-loses-falc ... t-sea.html

More misadventure!
 
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Tue Apr 16, 2019 3:54 am

Should've just topped it up with fuel and flown it back. :P
 
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Should've just topped it up with fuel and flown it back. :P


Sounds to me as though the crew was never able to board the ASDS to secure the stage. Refueling would have been impossible as well.

Need to get the octagrabber working for FH cores.
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ZaphodHarkonnen wrote:
Should've just topped it up with fuel and flown it back. :P


Sounds to me as though the crew was never able to board the ASDS to secure the stage. Refueling would have been impossible as well.

Need to get the octagrabber working for FH cores.


*points to the big :P*

As cool as that would be the simplest option is yeah, improve the tie down process.
 
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Ouch... :fight:
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SpaceX’s first Falcon Heavy Block 5 center core (i.e. booster) has completed a bittersweet return to shore aboard drone ship Of Course I Still Love You after apparently breaking in half during a wave-induced tumble.

https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-falcon ... er-return/

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Ouch... :fight:
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SpaceX’s first Falcon Heavy Block 5 center core (i.e. booster) has completed a bittersweet return to shore aboard drone ship Of Course I Still Love You after apparently breaking in half during a wave-induced tumble.

https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-falcon ... er-return/

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I wonder if they can recover the engines?
 
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DarkKnight5 wrote:
Tugger wrote:
Ouch... :fight:
Image
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SpaceX’s first Falcon Heavy Block 5 center core (i.e. booster) has completed a bittersweet return to shore aboard drone ship Of Course I Still Love You after apparently breaking in half during a wave-induced tumble.

https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-falcon ... er-return/

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The hover slam probably did it in. doubt the wave did anything but add to the pain
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Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:09 pm

At least they got the body this time. There's still a lot to be learned from the autopsy as this was the most energetic re-entry to date of a Falcon booster.
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Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:34 am

casinterest wrote:
DarkKnight5 wrote:
Tugger wrote:

Tis but a flesh wound. Have at you!


The hover slam probably did it in. doubt the wave did anything but add to the pain

I meant that it was literally snapped in half. The landing did not cause that. Tipping over the side and smashing into the bulkhead midway up the body definitely caused that.
 
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Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:51 am

Smoke seen for miles as SpaceX Crew Dragon suffers anomaly at Cape Canaveral

https://www.floridatoday.com/story/tech ... 531086002/

Oh oh...
 
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Sun Apr 21, 2019 2:55 am

Given SpaceX's penchant for euphemism, that 'anomaly' might be just that, or it might be a charred mound where Dragon used to sit...

Hopefully closer to the former, although I'm thinking this is the end of any hope for a crewed flight before the summer is over.
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Some more details:

This was the DM-1 capsule which was recovered from the ocean after splashdown. They wanted to use it for the launch abort test.
As these capsules aren't meant to be reused after the saltwater bath, there is a possibility that the water landing is the cause of the malfunction, rather than a fundamental design flaw with Super Draco... At least one hopes.

Rumors are that the capsule is toast.

That orange cloud would have been super nasty stuff, though it was fortunately blown towards the water. (I suppose they wait for favorable wind conditions to perform these tests anyway)

I believe NASA was a bit reticent to have a liquid-fuel propelled escape system. Let's hope this doesn't turn them off the concept altogether..

Elon, normally quite outspoken about their failures, has so far remained quiet.
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Francoflier wrote:
Some more details:

This was the DM-1 capsule which was recovered from the ocean after splashdown. They wanted to use it for the launch abort test.
As these capsules aren't meant to be reused after the saltwater bath, there is a possibility that the water landing is the cause of the malfunction, rather than a fundamental design flaw with Super Draco... At least one hopes.

Rumors are that the capsule is toast.

That orange cloud would have been super nasty stuff, though it was fortunately blown towards the water. (I suppose they wait for favorable wind conditions to perform these tests anyway)

I believe NASA was a bit reticent to have a liquid-fuel propelled escape system. Let's hope this doesn't turn them off the concept altogether..

Elon, normally quite outspoken about their failures, has so far remained quiet.


Thanks for the update. Yeah, I also noticed that Musk had not issued a statement.
 
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There’s video on the net. Appears to me that the crew dragon was destroyed. Ripley had a bad day.
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Crew Dragon static fire test explosion:

https://youtu.be/h3Xs_6-MbwE
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The main hope is that it was a test stand failure.
 
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The main hope is that it was a test stand failure.


Yeah a test hardware failure or a problem with test configuration would be the easiest to recover from.
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Francoflier wrote:
Some more details:

This was the DM-1 capsule which was recovered from the ocean after splashdown. They wanted to use it for the launch abort test.
As these capsules aren't meant to be reused after the saltwater bath, there is a possibility that the water landing is the cause of the malfunction, rather than a fundamental design flaw with Super Draco... At least one hopes.

Rumors are that the capsule is toast.

That orange cloud would have been super nasty stuff, though it was fortunately blown towards the water. (I suppose they wait for favorable wind conditions to perform these tests anyway)

I believe NASA was a bit reticent to have a liquid-fuel propelled escape system. Let's hope this doesn't turn them off the concept altogether..

Elon, normally quite outspoken about their failures, has so far remained quiet.


Both Starliner and Crew Dragon use liquid escape systems so NASA doesn't really have a choice here. They'll just have to find the cause and make sure it doesn't happen again.
 
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Crew Dragon static fire test explosion:

https://youtu.be/h3Xs_6-MbwE

Wow, I've experienced a few anomalies in my life but none like that, thank god.... I have to rethink what I consider an anomaly...

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Tugger wrote:
zanl188 wrote:
Crew Dragon static fire test explosion:

https://youtu.be/h3Xs_6-MbwE

Wow, I've experienced a few anomalies in my life but none like that, thank god.... I have to rethink what I consider an anomaly...

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"Anomaly" is anything deviating from expected regular behavior.

You may want to embellish that with adjectives like "unexpected", "catastrophic", ... :-))))))

Lets what triggered the disassembly process here.
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Crew Dragon static fire test explosion:

https://youtu.be/h3Xs_6-MbwE


Is this video... real?
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zanl188 wrote:
Crew Dragon static fire test explosion:

https://youtu.be/h3Xs_6-MbwE


Is this video... real?

No idea about that video.
But the explosion itself is real:
https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-crew-dragon-explosion/
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Video is unofficial and appears to be a cell phone video of a display screen. Take it for what it’s worth.
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The first bit of new information I have found:
A NASA safety panel said on Thursday that Saturday's accident on a SpaceX astronaut capsule happened after eight engines were test fired, but offered scant details on what caused the mishap or the extent of the damage.

https://gadgets.ndtv.com/science/news/s ... el-2028878

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Good launch, insertion and deployment into orbit, and recovery of the first stage of the SpaceX CRS-17 mission after a one day hold due to issues with the droneship that caused the previous attempt to be aborted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQFhX5TvP0M

Also, cool infra-red shot of the first stage on the landing burn, plus a very clean feed of the camera from the first stage as well.
 
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There's the silver lining from the Crew Dragon 'anomaly'...: finally a good view of a drone landing. Too bad it happened at night.
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In the very early hours of May 16th (GMT time), SpaceX will launch sixty Starlink communication satellites at once.

Whew.
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In the very early hours of May 16th (GMT time), SpaceX will launch sixty Starlink communication satellites at once.

Whew.


A little pucker factor for the dispenser design team I think. I hope they pull it off.
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Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos