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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Sat Feb 24, 2018 5:21 pm

Hmmm,

dark,
not so dark,
three shades of grey,

all images showing the same aircraft. Possibly slightly darker than the average military grey.
 
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:29 am

MSN 1830 (OCCAR) ready for its ferry flight to Spain where it will undergo tanker conversion.

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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:55 pm

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fifty! fifty shades of grey. :-)
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:46 pm

Singapore and Airbus to use the A330MRTT to test 3D printed spare parts:

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/ ... d-printing
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:54 pm

AngMoh wrote:

Good article - I keep forgetting all the capabilities and capacities they managed to cram into the MRTT - highest fuel capacity of any tanker? Pretty incredible.. kinda wish it was flying with the USAF, but I won't go there...
 
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:12 am

I wasn’t aware this was an ongoing issue but it appears that the Singaporean Air Force have encountered these issues with their new KC-30s and the F-15SG. The RAAF is also keen to get this certified for use to expand the number of aircraft it can refuel. If the F-15SG is impacted you would expect the South Korean F-15K to also have issues.

Has Airbus fixed midair refueling problems with the F-15 jet?

Airbus has developed changes to the software that controls the A330 tanker boom specifically for midair refueling of the Boeing F-15 Eagle. The modification, known as boom flight control law, was coded in response to difficulties encountered during flight trials, and the update adds another receiver type to the list of aircraft certified for refueling from the tanker.

Airbus told Defense News that the need for a new boom control law came to light during flight trials between an A330 Multi-Role Tanker Transport and U.S. Air Force F-15 fighter jets. Observers noticed midair refueling between the two aircraft was more difficult than other receivers due to the F-15 receptacle’s asymmetric design and “the associated aerodynamics effects" near the receptacle.

The new boom control law on the A330 MRTT provides the boom operator with an improved and smoother way to perform the contact, an Airbus Defence and Space spokesman told Defense News.

He added that the software modification for the A330 MRTT’s aerial refueling boom system, or ARBS, called Update III Loop 6.1, was certified in 2018 following flight tests between the MRTT and an unidentified operator’s F-15s during the development and certification phases to assess and validate the behavior of the new boom control laws.

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https://www.defensenews.com/air/2019/10 ... -f-15-jet/
 
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Tue Oct 29, 2019 11:25 am

Czech Republic signed an MoU to join multinational fleet of A330 MRTT on October 24th, 2019.

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_169954.htm
 
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:44 am

SQ22 wrote:
Czech Republic signed an MoU to join multinational fleet of A330 MRTT on October 24th, 2019.

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_169954.htm


Will they also have to contribute a frame to the agreement? When Norway and Germany signed up in 2017 they pledged 5 aircraft and options on another 4, the 5 have since been ordered.
 
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Wed Oct 30, 2019 11:42 am

Kiwirob wrote:
SQ22 wrote:
Czech Republic signed an MoU to join multinational fleet of A330 MRTT on October 24th, 2019.

https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_169954.htm


Will they also have to contribute a frame to the agreement? When Norway and Germany signed up in 2017 they pledged 5 aircraft and options on another 4, the 5 have since been ordered.


It doesn't read like they are contributing a plane, but so far eight have been ordered according to FlightGlobal.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... rt-461831/
 
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:41 pm

Update on the MRTT, the automated refuelling system continues to be tested, looking for certification in 2021, and will be a retro-fit option for current operators in the future. No plans to move to the NEO for MRTT production with production of CEO MRTTs confirmed for the time being.

Airbus to advance automatic tanker trial for customer

Further flight testing of a developmental automatic boom refuelling capability for the A330 multi-role tanker transport (MRTT) will be performed for an undisclosed customer next year, Airbus Defence & Space has disclosed.

Trials work on the company’s A3R automatic air-to-air refuelling technology conducted since 2017 has included its A310 testbed making automatic in-flight contacts with Lockheed Martin F-16s and an A330 MRTT

Speaking at the company’s Manching site in Germany early this month, Airbus head of tanker and derivatives programme Didier Plantecoste said it is aiming to secure certification for the advance during 2021.

“We will be starting to do flight-tests next year with that customer,” he says. “We are expecting an improvement in safety and reliability of the operation, and a reduction in the time of contact [between aircraft].”

The company’s concept of operations for the A3R system is for the tanker to retain its current boom operator in a supervisory/safety role, and for the function to be available as a retrofit option for additional current customers.

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https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... me-462203/
 
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:03 am

There was also this a few days ago,

"Airbus DS to offer improved A330 MRTT"

https://www.janes.com/article/92435/air ... -a330-mrtt

"Airbus Defence and Space (DS) announced an improved variant of the A330-200 Multi-Role Tanker Transport (MRTT) aircraft during the annual Trade Media Briefing (TMB), held at the company's Manching facility near Munich."

A338 certification delayed, rumours of a new A330F....
I think a NEO is plausible.
 
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:45 pm

I expect what ADS is looking into is an Operating Weight increase. The A330 MRTT's MTOW is 233,000kg whereas the A330-200 is now available at up to 242,000kg. I could see the A330-200F also getting an OW boost.
 
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:57 pm

Just announced at the Dubai Air Show, the UAE Air Force will purchase another three A330 tankers.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... rs-462398/

In true a.net style, I guess their earlier interest in the same number of KC-46s was just to get a better price from Airbus. :duck:
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:37 am

estorilm wrote:
AngMoh wrote:

Good article - I keep forgetting all the capabilities and capacities they managed to cram into the MRTT - highest fuel capacity of any tanker? Pretty incredible.. kinda wish it was flying with the USAF, but I won't go there...


No the highest fuel capacity tankers are the IIAF KC-747s (KC-33A) and the USAF KC-10s.

The KC-30/A-330MRTT has a capacity of about 43,000 lbs. more fuel than the KC-135 and about 42,000 lbs. than the KC-46.

KC-747/KC-30 fuel capacity 351,000 lbs. (KC-747aka KC-33A) or 414,082 lbs. (KC-33B aka B-747-400ERF) if the USAF chose this option.
KC-10 fuel capacity 365,000 lbs.
KC-30/A-330MRTT fuel capacity is 245,000 lbs.
KC-46 fuel capacity is 203,000 lbs.
KC-135 fuel capacity is 202,000 lbs.
KC-767 fuel capacity is 165,000 lbs.
 
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:01 pm

kc135topboom wrote:
estorilm wrote:
AngMoh wrote:

Good article - I keep forgetting all the capabilities and capacities they managed to cram into the MRTT - highest fuel capacity of any tanker? Pretty incredible.. kinda wish it was flying with the USAF, but I won't go there...


No the highest fuel capacity tankers are the IIAF KC-747s (KC-33A) and the USAF KC-10s.

The KC-30/A-330MRTT has a capacity of about 43,000 lbs. more fuel than the KC-135 and about 42,000 lbs. than the KC-46.

KC-747/KC-30 fuel capacity 351,000 lbs. (KC-747aka KC-33A) or 414,082 lbs. (KC-33B aka B-747-400ERF) if the USAF chose this option.
KC-10 fuel capacity 365,000 lbs.
KC-30/A-330MRTT fuel capacity is 245,000 lbs.
KC-46 fuel capacity is 203,000 lbs.
KC-135 fuel capacity is 202,000 lbs.
KC-767 fuel capacity is 165,000 lbs.

Ah thanks for the correction - not sure where I read that at the time - perhaps they were defining it as a "tactical" tanker?
 
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:15 pm

Airbus sent an A330MRTT that was in Getafe for MRTT conversion to China to go and transport a few facemasks. Looks like they're trying to show off all of their models, first A330-800, then A400M and now the MRTT. Interestingly, even the MRTT has seats installed so they had to stack the boxes on the seats just like a regular pax A330.
https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-r ... vid19.html
 
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:15 pm

mxaxai wrote:
Interestingly, even the MRTT has seats installed so they had to stack the boxes on the seats just like a regular pax A330.
https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-r ... vid19.html


How can you tell*? Behind the truck it looks like they're stacking/palletizing the boxes like you'd expect to use a forklift for. Could they have used the lower lobes?

*not questioning, just trying to see your logic
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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Sat Mar 28, 2020 6:09 pm

LyleLanley wrote:
mxaxai wrote:
Interestingly, even the MRTT has seats installed so they had to stack the boxes on the seats just like a regular pax A330.
https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-r ... vid19.html


How can you tell*? Behind the truck it looks like they're stacking/palletizing the boxes like you'd expect to use a forklift for. Could they have used the lower lobes?

*not questioning, just trying to see your logic

Check out the video that's attached to the press release. They included footage of the unloading process as well as the interior. They also put a photo in the extended photo gallery.
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A brief crosspost from CivAv: The French air force is using their A330MRTT in a medevac configuration to bring patients from the hotspot in Grand Est to other places with free ICU beds. They used the 'Morphée' configuration:
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https://www.defense.gouv.fr/var/dicod/s ... phenix.jpg
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Regarding medical evacuations, we learned this Thursday afternoon that a fourth transfer of six patients from Émile-Muller hospital, by medical military aircraft, will be made this Friday, March 27, to the Aquitaine region. This Thursday, March 26, in the morning, two Mulhousian patients were evacuated to the Angers University Hospital on board the medical train that departed from Strasbourg. In ten days, nearly "90 resuscitation patients" were evacuated by helicopter, plane and train. In "80%" of the cases, said Corinne Krencker, they were in the Grand Est region. The others were transferred to Burgundy, Franche-Comté, in the south and west of France, but also to Germany, Switzerland and Luxembourg. ...

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Re: A330MRTT Orders, Production And Testing

Sat Mar 28, 2020 7:01 pm

Ah, I see it now, thanks. They really should rename "see all photos" to "see some of the photos, but probably not what you're here for".

Thanks for the steer and for the Phoenix links. I've always been partial to the A-330 MRTT lines, but the paint job on the Phoenix is absolutely gorgeous!
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Airbus Demonstrates First Automatic Refueling Contact

Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:53 pm

Congrats to the team at Airbus for this bit of technical feat, demonstrated with an Airbus A310 tanker and a Portuguese F-16. They managed to accumulate 45 flight test hours and 120 dry contacts during their testing.

From Airbus:

https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-r ... tacts.html

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Airbus Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvSFt499pvU

Getafe, 17 April 2020 – Airbus has achieved the first ever fully automatic air-to-air refuelling (A3R) operation with a boom system. The flight test campaign, conducted earlier in the year over the Atlantic Ocean, involved an Airbus tanker test aircraft equipped with the Airbus A3R solution, with an F-16 fighter aircraft of the Portuguese Air Force acting as a receiver.


This milestone is part of the industrialisation phase of A3R systems ahead of its implementation in the A330 MRTT tanker development.


The campaign achieved a total of 45 flight test hours and 120 dry contacts with the A3R system, covering the whole aerial refuelling envelope, as the F-16 and MRTT consolidate the maturity and capabilities of the development at this stage. The certification phase will start in 2021.

Didier Plantecoste, Airbus Head of Tanker and Derivatives Programmes, said: “The achievement of this key milestone for the A3R programme highlights the A330 MRTT’s excellent capability roadmap development and once more confirms that our tanker is the world’s reference for present and future refuelling operations. Our special thanks go to the Portuguese Air Force for their continued support and help on this crucial development”.

The A3R system requires no additional equipment on the receiver aircraft and is intended to reduce air refuelling operator (ARO) workload, improve safety and optimise the rate of air-to-air refuelling transfer in operational conditions, helping maximise aerial superiority. The goal for the A3R system is to develop technologies that will reach fully autonomous capabilities.

Once the system is activated by the ARO, the A3R flies the boom automatically and keeps the alignment between the boom tip and the receiver receptacle with an accuracy of a couple of centimeters; the proper alignment and the receiver stability is checked in real-time to keep a safe distance between the boom and the receiver and also to determine the optimum moment to extend the telescopic beam to achieve the connection with the receiver. At this point, the fuel transfer is initiated to fill up the receiver aircraft and once completed and the disconnection is commanded, the boom is cleared away from the receiver by retracting the telescopic beam and flying the boom away to keep a safe separation distance. During this process, the ARO simply monitors the operation.
 
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Re: Airbus Demonstrates First Automatic Refueling Contact

Sat Apr 18, 2020 1:07 am

Nice work, Airbus!

I hope its test program is as successful as these events, and that the system is an outstanding new quill for their quiver!
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Re: A330MRTT News, Orders, Production And Testing

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Re: A330MRTT News, Orders, Production And Testing

Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:18 am

And it landed on its base: Eindhoven AB.

The new and the old:
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Some more pictures in the link.
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Re: A330MRTT News, Orders, Production And Testing

Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:22 pm

Dutchy wrote:
And it landed on its base: Eindhoven AB.

The new and the old:
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Some more pictures in the link.

And a Nice video also :bigthumbsup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgZP_UMsB9U
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Delivery First MMF A330 MRTT at Eindhoven

Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:14 pm

On Tuesday, June 30, it was time for the first Airbus A330-200 MRTT for the Multinational Multirole Tanker Transport Unit (MMU) to be delivered to Eindhoven Air Base. The aircraft with registration number T-055 is the first Airbus of a series of eight aircraft that has been purchased by the international consortium. Of the eight aircraft, five will be based on Eindhoven and three on Cologne-Bonn. In the Netherlands, the A330-200 MRTT, which is also referred to as the KC-30M, will replace the KDC-10 of the Royal Netherlands Air Force. In Germany, the aircraft will replace the outdated Airbus A310 MRTT. The aircraft of the MMU are made available to the European cooperation where tankers and transport aircraft are shared with eachother. This European partnership is the European Air Transport Command (EATC), which is also based at Eindhoven Air Base. The new A330-200 MRTT tankers are equipped with both the flying boom and the drogue system and can therefore refuel any type of aircraft in use in Europe. Here a small video of the arrival of this aircraft. Also its Dutch predecessor is shown in the movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrFedQ_IPcM

Also two photos of its first landing at Eindhoven.

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Re: Delivery First MMF A330 MRTT at Eindhoven

Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:58 pm

Which countries are participating, or is it NATO-wide?
 
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Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:02 pm

The Netherlands Belgium, Luxembourg, Germany and Norway
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Re: A330MRTT News, Orders, Production And Testing

Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:42 am

A video about the conversion.

https://youtu.be/y1GBoeHPJvA
 
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Re: Delivery First MMF A330 MRTT at Eindhoven

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The Netherlands Belgium, Luxembourg, Germany and Norway

And Czech Republic.
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UA947 wrote:
redskin301 wrote:
The Netherlands Belgium, Luxembourg, Germany and Norway

And Czech Republic.


You are correct :checkmark:
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Re: A330MRTT News, Orders, Production And Testing

Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:15 am

It appears France has advanced its commitment for 12 A330MRTT to be delivered earlier and upped its order by another three frames to now 15 A330MRTT.

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2020-07-28/first-five-rafales-depart-india-more-a330s-france
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Re: A330MRTT News, Orders, Production And Testing

Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:20 pm

That is interesting as it seems to solidify A332 production into the next few years, #232. I sort of assumed at some point France would be the transition order to an A338 derivative MRTT. Probably not though if those 15 are confirmed/finalized.
 
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Re: A330MRTT News, Orders, Production And Testing

Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:58 pm

texl1649 wrote:
That is interesting as it seems to solidify A332 production into the next few years, #232. I sort of assumed at some point France would be the transition order to an A338 derivative MRTT. Probably not though if those 15 are confirmed/finalized.

I seem to remember someone posting why the A338 wasn’t as good a fit for the MRTT role? I expect the CEO will remain the MRTT aircraft of choice and once CEO production ends conversions of existing frames would be the majority of future A330 MRTT sales.
 
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Re: A330MRTT News, Orders, Production And Testing

Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:48 am

Ozair wrote:
texl1649 wrote:
That is interesting as it seems to solidify A332 production into the next few years, #232. I sort of assumed at some point France would be the transition order to an A338 derivative MRTT. Probably not though if those 15 are confirmed/finalized.

I seem to remember someone posting why the A338 wasn’t as good a fit for the MRTT role? I expect the CEO will remain the MRTT aircraft of choice and once CEO production ends conversions of existing frames would be the majority of future A330 MRTT sales.


The strongest argument I read for retaining the 332 ceo as the base for the MRTT is that the wing and engine changes for the 338 change the airflow over the wings. That affects the behaviour of the refuelling system, and the cost involved in re-tuning that is prohibitive.
 
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Re: A330MRTT News, Orders, Production And Testing

Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:20 pm

JerseyFlyer wrote:
Ozair wrote:
texl1649 wrote:
That is interesting as it seems to solidify A332 production into the next few years, #232. I sort of assumed at some point France would be the transition order to an A338 derivative MRTT. Probably not though if those 15 are confirmed/finalized.

I seem to remember someone posting why the A338 wasn’t as good a fit for the MRTT role? I expect the CEO will remain the MRTT aircraft of choice and once CEO production ends conversions of existing frames would be the majority of future A330 MRTT sales.


The strongest argument I read for retaining the 332 ceo as the base for the MRTT is that the wing and engine changes for the 338 change the airflow over the wings. That affects the behaviour of the refuelling system, and the cost involved in re-tuning that is prohibitive.

That makes sense to me and likely what I was thinking of, thanks.
 
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Re: A330MRTT News, Orders, Production And Testing

Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:10 pm

With the ceo the "common" wing with the A340 allowed appropriate stress points for the wing refueling pods which are in the same position as the outer engine of the A340, I believe recent ceos were supposed to have done away with the A340 features but maybe they are keeping that wing build for the tankers still. That could be an additional issue besides the aerodynamics on any neo version of the tanker.
IIRC this wing stress issue was one of the ones why Aussies chose the A330 over the 767.

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