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Ozair
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Re: Future of western fighter production lines

Sat Jun 13, 2020 6:01 am

First Qatar, then Kuwait and now Egypt. Looks like Egypt may acquire the Eurofighter to add to the already complex mix of fighter aircraft they are operating amid continued reports Egypt have also signed for the Su-35.

If the Eurofighter deal does go ahead it will be a coup for Airbus and the Italian production line and what probably everyone was expecting was a lock for a Rafale top up order.

Italian government reportedly approves frigate sale to Egypt

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The Italian media has reported that the frigate deal is part of a much larger package that includes another four frigates, 20 corvettes based on the Falaj class that Fincantieri built for the United Arab Emirates, 24 Eurofighter Typhoon multirole jets, 24 M346 jet trainers, and a surveillance satellite.

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https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news ... 9c463737d5

I understand the political aspects of these procurements but it sure isn't a smart way to run an air force if you are Qatar, Kuwait, Egypt, Malaysia, Indonesia etc and don't harmonise your fighter fleets around one or two aircraft.
 
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Re: Future of western fighter production lines

Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:28 pm

If you are always facing a risk of sanctions, it makes sense to have a diverse fleet.
 
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Re: Future of western fighter production lines

Tue Jun 16, 2020 12:28 pm

There navy is also full of diversity, they have a French FREMM, now 2 Italian FREMMS, 6 MEKO A200 frigates ordered from Germany last year, another 4 frigates of undisclosed origin this year, corvettes from France, Germany and Spain, along with Russian, Chinese, US and UK built missile boats. It must be a logistical nightmare!
 
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Re: Future of western fighter production lines

Tue Jun 23, 2020 8:10 am

seahawk wrote:
If you are always facing a risk of sanctions, it makes sense to have a diverse fleet.


Sure but I cannot think of France being more likely to halt arms shipments to Egypt than the UK so what's the point of buying a roughly comparable fighter from a different source more likely to withold parts/support? I could see the argument for an additional type in the air force if it discharged some role far better than Rafale but I don't see where that would apply to Typhoon v Rafale.
 
Ozair
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Re: Future of western fighter production lines

Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:43 am

Looks like Qatar has expanded their order for the F-15QA from 36 to 48 aircraft. The DSCA announcement gave them clearance up to 72 so it appears they have ordered at least an additional twelve. Good news for USAF F-15EX aspirations as it keeps the F-15 production line in action for likely an additional year and may reduce the overall cost of the jet if orders are coming for two different customers.

US appears to confirm expanded F-15QA buy for Qatar

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On 23 May the DoD disclosed that the US Army Corps of Engineers had contracted Doha-based company BAH-ICM JV to build facilities for the Qatar Emiri Air Force’s (QEAF’s) new fleet. In the notification, the department said; “The Foreign Military Sales (FMS) purchase of forty-eight (48) F-15QA aircraft improves the State of Qatar's capability to meet current and future enemy air-to-air and air-to-ground threats”. Janes noted this discrepancy in the numbers at the time, but as it was the first such occurrence this suggested that it may have been in error.

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https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news ... -for-qatar

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