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Philippine Air Force might go for JAS gripen

Tue Oct 16, 2018 7:14 am

https://ptvnews.ph/dnd-likely-to-acquire-swedish-made-fighter-jets/

"After a thorough study and research, the Department of National Defense (DND) is most likely to buy the Swedish-made Gripenmulti-role supersonic jet fighter for the Philippine Air Force (PAF).

Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana made this disclosure in an exclusive interview with the Philippine News Agency (PNA) on the sidelines of the book launching of former President Fidel V. Ramos at the Manila Hotel on Sunday."
 
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Re: Philippine Air Force might go for JAS gripen

Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:16 pm

Gripen C or E? Is it known how many they want to aquire? probably 15-20..? At least new ones,since we don´t offer used ones anymore.
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Re: Philippine Air Force might go for JAS gripen

Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:30 pm

I think they're interested in the C/D version.
 
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Re: Philippine Air Force might go for JAS gripen

Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:27 pm

agill wrote:
I think they're interested in the C/D version.

Not sure it would be a wise acquisition, not only because there are no Gripens C/D available, but used F-16s have won multiple competitions over the Gripen lately. Additionally there are more regional F-16 operators, likely improving integration and training.
 
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Re: Philippine Air Force might go for JAS gripen

Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:08 am

Hey guys,
I wonder how the finances will go with this...
The Gripen seems to be a great aircraft but I agree with Ozair that used F-16s might well have been a better choice. Sometimes I guess that buying 'brand new' is a priority.... And the Philippines have just ordered two brand new Wildcats, from my favourite helicopter family! Maybe military spending has become a priority and to be 'seen' to be ordering new is important?!?!
Any news on the transfer of some Japanese MPA to the Philippines? There's been speculation....
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Re: Philippine Air Force might go for JAS gripen

Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:18 am

Congrats to Philippines and Sweden! Good choice.
 
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Re: Philippine Air Force might go for JAS gripen

Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:35 am

AirlineCritic wrote:
Congrats to Philippines and Sweden! Good choice.

Bit early for that, nothing has been ordered, it is just a news report on a DND finding. As already indicated they still need to allocate funding which is not easy right now for an acquisition this size.
 
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Re: Philippine Air Force might go for JAS gripen

Wed Oct 17, 2018 7:45 pm

Here we go again...hopefully, something would come out of it this time around. :crossfingers:

http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articl ... -says.html


SAS A340 wrote:
Gripen C or E? Is it known how many they want to aquire? probably 15-20..? At least new ones,since we don´t offer used ones anymore.

I'm hoping they could stretch for the E since it's envisioned to be in service for a long time and updating the older model may be problematic as time passes. They could potentially order a squadron first and top up with a second batch.


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Not sure it would be a wise acquisition, not only because there are no Gripens C/D available, but used F-16s have won multiple competitions over the Gripen lately. Additionally there are more regional F-16 operators, likely improving integration and training.

The country's neighbors in Asia are upgrading from their current F-16s. LockMart executives were in town recently reportedly offering AESA-equipped Block 70 Vipers. The thinking was they had an advantage given the F-16 derived FA-50s in the PAF's inventory. Apparently, the Vipers were too expensive for the PAF's budget, as noted in the above link. I just wonder if SAAB's recent collaboration with Boeing has boosted their chances somewhat. :scratchchin:

https://www.philstar.com/business/2018/ ... hilippines

It can be recalled that embargoed F-16 A/Bs for Pakistan were offered to the PAF a long time ago which were also declined for lack of funds.


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Bit early for that, nothing has been ordered, it is just a news report on a DND finding. As already indicated they still need to allocate funding which is not easy right now for an acquisition this size.

Very much so...especially since there are other big-ticket procurement in the pipeline. Note also that it is midterm elections next year and candidates are looking for popular programs to append their names to...if not for sources of campaign contributions. :shakehead:
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Re: Philippine Air Force might go for JAS gripen

Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:58 pm

Hey Devilfish,
Thanks for your information! Your absolute last point is most interesting....
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Re: Philippine Air Force might go for JAS gripen

Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:01 pm

According to Swedish press, Philippines are interested in 10-12 Gripen C.
Ann Wolgers, press officer at Saab, confirms that pilots from the Philippine Air Force have been in Sweden and flown the Gripen.
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Re: Philippine Air Force might go for JAS gripen

Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:45 pm

Could this be part of a financing deal that allows Sweden to sell off some of it's C/D Gripens to enable them to afford newer E models?
 
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Re: Philippine Air Force might go for JAS gripen

Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:24 pm

bunumuring wrote:
Thanks for your information! Your absolute last point is most interesting....

I was just speculating mate. To be fair, they may be serious this time. The MRFs were promised to the Air Force and the Government may want the deal squared away before the current administration's term ends. :smile: Interestingly, there were no accounts of it in the other local mainstream media except for a passing reference to the scale model Gripen displayed at the exhibition.....

https://globalnation.inquirer.net/17007 ... ontractors


SAS A340 wrote:
According to Swedish press, Philippines are interested in 10-12 Gripen C.
Ann Wolgers, press officer at Saab, confirms that pilots from the Philippine Air Force have been in Sweden and flown the Gripen.

This Flightglobal report confirms the variant but does not give the number of frames required nor does it mention any adjunct weapons package.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ce-452807/
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Re: Philippine Air Force might go for JAS gripen

Thu Nov 29, 2018 4:13 am

Some new noises regarding this AF project.....

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/ ... ition.html


I still wish it'd be the Gripen E..... :crossfingers: .....

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https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ut-453900/


Maybe the Air Force wanted the MRFs sooner. Well, there's still Horizon 3 anyway. :point:
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Re: Philippine Air Force might go for JAS gripen

Fri Dec 07, 2018 5:30 pm

Related to the above, the PAF has selected the Blackhawk from LM's Sikorsky division as its next combat utility helicopter.....

https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2018 ... -lorenzana

Perhaps this could be a backdoor way for the Viper to get back into the picture? :scratchchin:


Along with this is the yet to be officially announced selection of TAI's T129 ATAK helicopter pending resolution of the export restriction on its LHTEC's T800-4A powerplant.....

http://philippineairspace.blogspot.com/ ... ttack.html

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Re: Philippine Air Force might go for JAS gripen

Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:13 pm

Is the country considering any other types / contenders ?
 
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Re: Philippine Air Force might go for JAS gripen

Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:30 pm

Mortyman wrote:
Is the country considering any other types / contenders ?

If you're referring to the MRFs, not anymore...the Gripen was the only candidate which came within the PAF's budget (unless.....). As I understand it, the Air Force/Navy also had a long standing requirement for maritime patrol aircraft but currently are not actively seeking tenders for it. The government has these other studies for the civilian transportation sector.....

https://www.philstar.com/business/2018/ ... -transport
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