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C-130J at London City

Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:24 pm

Any idea why the RAF sent a C-130 to LCY a couple of months ago? A first visit of the type, presumably?!

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Re: C-130J at London City

Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:26 pm

The linked album says "training sortie".
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Re: C-130J at London City

Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:27 pm

CPS001 wrote:
The linked album says "training sortie".


Yeah, saw that. Just seems strange using LCY.
 
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Re: C-130J at London City

Tue Dec 04, 2018 8:04 pm

CarbonFibre wrote:
CPS001 wrote:
The linked album says "training sortie".


Yeah, saw that. Just seems strange using LCY.


Not strange at all considering that the aircraft flew into LCY on a training sortie, the fact that the airport has a very steep approach and the many obstacles nearby such as tall buildings at Canary Wharf the airport makes it an absolutely ideal location for training sorties such as the one in the video that happened several months ago and there are a few videos on YouTube showing the event, I'm personally surprised that it was the first time that it had actually happened at LCY.

Although it's not the shortest runway by far as the Hercules is a very capable aircraft and one of the shortest if not the shortest ever take off and landing of a Hercules C130 occurred on the 30 October 1963 when a USAF C130 landed and obviously took off from aircraft carrier the USS Forestal, excellent video on YouTube showing the event.
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Re: C-130J at London City

Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:39 pm

Cunard wrote:
Not strange at all considering that the aircraft flew into LCY on a training sortie, the fact that the airport has a very steep approach and the many obstacles nearby such as tall buildings at Canary Wharf the airport makes it an absolutely ideal location for training sorties such as the one in the video


I'm not sure anything is really ideal about using LCY for "training" given the proximity of large numbers of people who could be harmed in the case of a mishap. The steep approach and short runway can be simulated very easily at a base out in the middle of nowhere.
 
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Re: C-130J at London City

Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:47 pm

I believe this was a 47 Squadron Hercules. If you google 47 squadron RAF you will see what their role is and why a training sortie into LCY is not that surprising.
 
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Re: C-130J at London City

Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:01 pm

What do you think—training implies imminent threat of crashing? Every type new to LCY is training, pilots being qualified for LCY train there.

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Re: C-130J at London City

Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:04 pm

Cunard wrote:
Although it's not the shortest runway by far as the Hercules is a very capable aircraft and one of the shortest if not the shortest ever take off and landing of a Hercules C130 occurred on the 30 October 1963 when a USAF C130 landed and obviously took off from aircraft carrier the USS Forestal, excellent video on YouTube showing the event.


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Re: C-130J at London City

Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:19 pm

A tactical approach in a Hercules is flown at a lot steeper angle than the 5.5 degree approach into LCY.

This training is more to do with who 47 squadron’s “passengers” are.
 
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Re: C-130J at London City

Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:02 am

McG1967 wrote:
A tactical approach in a Hercules is flown at a lot steeper angle than the 5.5 degree approach into LCY.

This training is more to do with who 47 squadron’s “passengers” are.

Probably a terrorism response simulation.

In combat conditions, they can perform dramatic arrivals and departures, though crew and contents need to be very secure. In the 60's, weren't RAF Transport Command pilots keen to demonstrate Bob Hoover's STOL techniques in a small twin, could be replicated using Andovers and Hercs?

Some commercial pilots and planes have flown hostile arrival and departures.
 
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Re: C-130J at London City

Wed Dec 05, 2018 1:05 pm

ScottB wrote:
Cunard wrote:
Not strange at all considering that the aircraft flew into LCY on a training sortie, the fact that the airport has a very steep approach and the many obstacles nearby such as tall buildings at Canary Wharf the airport makes it an absolutely ideal location for training sorties such as the one in the video


I'm not sure anything is really ideal about using LCY for "training" given the proximity of large numbers of people who could be harmed in the case of a mishap. The steep approach and short runway can be simulated very easily at a base out in the middle of nowhere.

If that’s the case, why not close the airport now
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Re: C-130J at London City

Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:42 pm

Shhhhhh, eicvd. The NIMBYs might hear you!
 
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Re: C-130J at London City

Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:31 am

'Special Forces' in the title is a giveaway.
Just likely training, you see a lot more Chinooks over London, than a few years ago, often as far out as near LHR where I am as well as the center.
It used to be you would only see a CH-47 over London as part of the Trooping Of The Colour flypast but over the last decade or so, a much more common sight.

Best guess for the C-130J? Maybe practicing deploying quickly, in strength into London, LCY is a lot closer to the center than either LHR or RAF Northolt.
 
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Re: C-130J at London City

Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:19 pm

RAAF C-17A Globemaster fly-past at eye-level in Brisbane Sept 29 2018... real world 'down town' training... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cABuUGQW9Uk

Not exactly Kosher flying for a ~$200M transport acft...
 
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Re: C-130J at London City

Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:22 pm

When I mentioned this 'down-town fly-by' to an Aussie friend, her quick reply was 'special' ...

"Well Wil, that's pretty darned impressive.
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Re: C-130J at London City

Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:41 pm

WKTaylor wrote:
RAAF C-17A Globemaster fly-past at eye-level in Brisbane Sept 29 2018... real world 'down town' training... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cABuUGQW9Uk

Not exactly Kosher flying for a ~$200M transport acft...


That does happen every year as part of a festival in Brisbane though. Not just the C-17 but also F-18's as well. Locals should be used to it by now, tourists, maybe not quite so much :shock:

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