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AGM-114R9X Hellfire Ninja Bomb

Tue May 14, 2019 6:17 am

This is a novel weapon... The below article builds on a Wall Street Journal article but you have to subscribe to the WSJ to get access.

I would have expected this report on April 1st but appears to be legit and has been used at least six times in the last two years.

US reveals existence of new ‘sword’ missile used to limit civilian casualties

The new weapon, designated the AGM-114R9X though colloquially known as the ‘ninja bomb’, has been built to reduce unintended casualties.

It carries no explosives.

But it does carry six large ‘knives’ - 45kg of precision-guided bladed metal intended to shred whatever they strike. These pop-out of the weapon’s casing when fired like the blades on a blender, and are capable of punching through light metals - such as a wall or roof of a car.

“To the targeted person, it is as if a speeding anvil fell from the sky,” the Journal wrote.

No official image of the secret weapon has been released.

...

https://www.news.com.au/technology/inno ... 8c45c9db74
 
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Re: AGM-114R9X Hellfire Ninja Bomb

Tue May 14, 2019 12:39 pm

Isn’t that essentially a flachete round?
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Re: AGM-114R9X Hellfire Ninja Bomb

Tue May 14, 2019 10:42 pm

Reddevil556 wrote:
Isn’t that essentially a flachete round?


Not as I understand it. A flechette is like a dart, pointed towards the target. But this Game of Thrones weapon folds out sabres, sideways.
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Re: AGM-114R9X Hellfire Ninja Bomb

Wed May 15, 2019 2:14 am

flyingturtle wrote:
Reddevil556 wrote:
Isn’t that essentially a flachete round?


Not as I understand it. A flechette is like a dart, pointed towards the target. But this Game of Thrones weapon folds out sabres, sideways.


So like an expanding broad head tip for archery hunting? Still tryin to wrap my head around the concept or purpose.
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Re: AGM-114R9X Hellfire Ninja Bomb

Wed May 15, 2019 2:33 am

Reddevil556 wrote:
flyingturtle wrote:
Reddevil556 wrote:
Isn’t that essentially a flachete round?


Not as I understand it. A flechette is like a dart, pointed towards the target. But this Game of Thrones weapon folds out sabres, sideways.


So like an expanding broad head tip for archery hunting? Still tryin to wrap my head around the concept or purpose.


So a set of blades that fan out from the missile and likely, as the article suggest, cut through light metal and clearly people.

Image

The intent is to minimise civilian casualties by using this weapon to target individuals in dense urban environments with low Collateral Damage.
 
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Re: AGM-114R9X Hellfire Ninja Bomb

Wed May 15, 2019 2:43 am

Did anyone else first imagine a bomb where the casing splits and out comes a legit Bruce Lee-esque ninja?
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Re: AGM-114R9X Hellfire Ninja Bomb

Wed May 15, 2019 5:36 pm

marcelh wrote:
New “toy” to be used in another US-created war.....


And what country do you hail from?
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Re: AGM-114R9X Hellfire Ninja Bomb

Wed May 15, 2019 5:42 pm

Reddevil556 wrote:
marcelh wrote:
New “toy” to be used in another US-created war.....


And what country do you hail from?

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Re: AGM-114R9X Hellfire Ninja Bomb

Thu May 23, 2019 2:52 am

Reminds me of the decapitation arrow-head...
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Re: AGM-114R9X Hellfire Ninja Bomb

Thu May 23, 2019 1:37 pm

TWA772LR wrote:
Did anyone else first imagine a bomb where the casing splits and out comes a legit Bruce Lee-esque ninja?

Hellfire Ninja Bomb might be the best name ever for a weapon.

Straight out of a bad movie, too.
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Re: AGM-114R9X Hellfire Ninja Bomb

Thu May 23, 2019 11:49 pm

Ozair wrote:
Reddevil556 wrote:
flyingturtle wrote:

Not as I understand it. A flechette is like a dart, pointed towards the target. But this Game of Thrones weapon folds out sabres, sideways.


So like an expanding broad head tip for archery hunting? Still tryin to wrap my head around the concept or purpose.


So a set of blades that fan out from the missile and likely, as the article suggest, cut through light metal and clearly people.

Image

The intent is to minimise civilian casualties by using this weapon to target individuals in dense urban environments with low Collateral Damage.

if they can actually guide that weapon TO anybody? Then that individual is going to have an EXTREMELY bad day!! So they intend to Minimize casualties?
Then Don't USE it!!
 
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Re: AGM-114R9X Hellfire Ninja Bomb

Fri May 24, 2019 1:17 am

strfyr51 wrote:
Ozair wrote:
Reddevil556 wrote:

So like an expanding broad head tip for archery hunting? Still tryin to wrap my head around the concept or purpose.


So a set of blades that fan out from the missile and likely, as the article suggest, cut through light metal and clearly people.

Image

The intent is to minimise civilian casualties by using this weapon to target individuals in dense urban environments with low Collateral Damage.

if they can actually guide that weapon TO anybody? Then that individual is going to have an EXTREMELY bad day!! So they intend to Minimize casualties?
Then Don't USE it!!


Better this than the conventional Hellfire missile leaving a crater in the ground and several casualties, rather than one intended casualty.
 
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Re: AGM-114R9X Hellfire Ninja Bomb

Fri May 24, 2019 9:11 am

Hellfire Ninja Bomb is also a blender
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Re: AGM-114R9X Hellfire Ninja Bomb

Fri May 24, 2019 3:05 pm

they saw battleship movie
 
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Re: AGM-114R9X Hellfire Ninja Bomb

Fri May 24, 2019 5:47 pm

We are about to see Taliban in Maximilian armor.
 
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Re: AGM-114R9X Hellfire Ninja Bomb

Mon May 27, 2019 7:39 pm

jupiter2 wrote:
strfyr51 wrote:
Ozair wrote:

So a set of blades that fan out from the missile and likely, as the article suggest, cut through light metal and clearly people.

Image

The intent is to minimise civilian casualties by using this weapon to target individuals in dense urban environments with low Collateral Damage.

if they can actually guide that weapon TO anybody? Then that individual is going to have an EXTREMELY bad day!! So they intend to Minimize casualties?
Then Don't USE it!!


Better this than the conventional Hellfire missile leaving a crater in the ground and several casualties, rather than one intended casualty.


We have these things called snipers, they can pick out a single target out of a crown and drop them. An airdropped weapon of this nature seems incredibly likely to still cause collateral damage and not be able to discriminate targets once it gets on target. Seems like a grand idea driven by good intentions, but seriously lacking any real relevance on the battlefield.

Seems like once again military strategists are trying to solve all their problems with air assets and avoid "boots on the ground."
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Re: AGM-114R9X Hellfire Ninja Bomb

Mon May 27, 2019 7:48 pm

Reddevil556 wrote:
jupiter2 wrote:
strfyr51 wrote:
if they can actually guide that weapon TO anybody? Then that individual is going to have an EXTREMELY bad day!! So they intend to Minimize casualties?
Then Don't USE it!!


Better this than the conventional Hellfire missile leaving a crater in the ground and several casualties, rather than one intended casualty.


We have these things called snipers, they can pick out a single target out of a crown and drop them. An airdropped weapon of this nature seems incredibly likely to still cause collateral damage and not be able to discriminate targets once it gets on target. Seems like a grand idea driven by good intentions, but seriously lacking any real relevance on the battlefield.

Seems like once again military strategists are trying to solve all their problems with air assets and avoid "boots on the ground."
That isn't a good analogy, a sniper is no good if he/she cannot be in the environment to actually shoot the target. As crazy as this weapon sounds they have apparently used it multiple times and in an urban environment Hellfire has proven accurate enough that blades attached to it can impact the desired target.
 
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Re: AGM-114R9X Hellfire Ninja Bomb

Tue May 28, 2019 9:00 am

Is this Trumps weapon to get red of Kim Jong Un?
 
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Re: AGM-114R9X Hellfire Ninja Bomb

Tue May 28, 2019 9:19 am

This weapon allows the drone operator to engage a target in a car without having to worry about a restaurant 20 meters away.
 
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Re: AGM-114R9X Hellfire Ninja Bomb

Tue May 28, 2019 9:44 pm

hmmwv wrote:
This weapon allows the drone operator to engage a target in a car without having to worry about a restaurant 20 meters away.


With the accuracy of modern guided munitions you can even target more closely. So hit the right hand person in the back seat while missing any human shields that have been forced into the vehicle. That's largely where the push from the previous administration came from. They wanted to be able to take out a specific target that would otherwise have been harder to strike due to having non combatants and children surrounding them.

Remember the US has used practice concrete filled bombs with guidance packages on to take out targets without destroying the entire building. It's part of a continued push to only take out the targets that an administration want dead. While leaving other physically untouched in the immediate time.
 
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Re: AGM-114R9X Hellfire Ninja Bomb

Wed May 29, 2019 3:15 am

Ozair wrote:
Reddevil556 wrote:
jupiter2 wrote:

Better this than the conventional Hellfire missile leaving a crater in the ground and several casualties, rather than one intended casualty.


We have these things called snipers, they can pick out a single target out of a crown and drop them. An airdropped weapon of this nature seems incredibly likely to still cause collateral damage and not be able to discriminate targets once it gets on target. Seems like a grand idea driven by good intentions, but seriously lacking any real relevance on the battlefield.

Seems like once again military strategists are trying to solve all their problems with air assets and avoid "boots on the ground."
That isn't a good analogy, a sniper is no good if he/she cannot be in the environment to actually shoot the target. As crazy as this weapon sounds they have apparently used it multiple times and in an urban environment Hellfire has proven accurate enough that blades attached to it can impact the desired target.


The sniper analogy refers to the ability to make positive identification on a key target and be able to make an accurate shot with no collateral damage. This is essentially an airborne sniper system. That being said with real time data you need the target to be clearly in the open or like someone else said an occupant in a vehicle. It just seems like a fool hardy endeavor. I would like to be convinced otherwise, but time will tell.
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Re: AGM-114R9X Hellfire Ninja Bomb

Wed May 29, 2019 3:25 am

This technology will mostly likely be limited to counter insurgency and the assymetric battlefield.
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