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Russia plays near Alaska

Tue May 21, 2019 8:08 pm

US intercepts Russian bombers, fighter jets off the coast of Alaska

Washington (CNN)US F-22 stealth jets intercepted four Russian bombers and two Russian Su-35 fighter jets off the coast of Alaska on Monday, according to a statement from North American Aerospace Defense Command.

The Russian nuclear capable long-range bombers flew into the Air Defense Identification Zone, which extends approximately 200 miles off Alaska's western coast.


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Always nice to see these air to air photos of these Russian aircraft.

It seems that the Ruski's are far more active in these kinds of flights near Canadian/America shores or in Europe - north sea region.

Of course, Russia has the right to fly there, but then again it is clear their intentions. These craft fly without their transponder so they aren't visual on the civil radar, So that makes it actually less innocent and actually dangerous in airspace where civil aircraft zip around.
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Re: Russia plays near Alaska

Tue May 21, 2019 8:41 pm

Replace "Russian" with "Soviet" and you'll see decades of this sort of behavior.

http://www.airforcemag.com/MagazineArch ... -Bear.aspx

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Re: Russia plays near Alaska

Tue May 21, 2019 9:24 pm

Why do they even bother turning off their transponders when those propellers light up the radar screens in both Alaska and Canada?
 
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Re: Russia plays near Alaska

Tue May 21, 2019 10:02 pm

P1aneMad wrote:
Why do they even bother turning off their transponders when those propellers light up the radar screens in both Alaska and Canada?


To prove a 'point', the jet bombers do the same, like TU-22M, TU-160.
 
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Re: Russia plays near Alaska

Tue May 21, 2019 10:12 pm

Dutchy wrote:
US intercepts Russian bombers, fighter jets off the coast of Alaska

Washington (CNN)US F-22 stealth jets intercepted four Russian bombers and two Russian Su-35 fighter jets off the coast of Alaska on Monday, according to a statement from North American Aerospace Defense Command.

The Russian nuclear capable long-range bombers flew into the Air Defense Identification Zone, which extends approximately 200 miles off Alaska's western coast.


Always nice to see these air to air photos of these Russian aircraft.

It seems that the Ruski's are far more active in these kinds of flights near Canadian/America shores or in Europe - north sea region.

Of course, Russia has the right to fly there, but then again it is clear their intentions. These craft fly without their transponder so they aren't visual on the civil radar, So that makes it actually less innocent and actually dangerous in airspace where civil aircraft zip around.


At the end of the Cold War Russia essentially stopped these missions but they started up again about five years ago and have continued ever since.
 
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Wed May 22, 2019 12:48 am

Ozair wrote:
At the end of the Cold War Russia essentially stopped these missions but they started up again about five years ago and have continued ever since.


They've been doing it far longer than 5 years...
 
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Wed May 22, 2019 1:06 am

checksixx wrote:
Ozair wrote:
At the end of the Cold War Russia essentially stopped these missions but they started up again about five years ago and have continued ever since.


They've been doing it far longer than 5 years...

How time flies. Yes you are correct, the Russians started up again in 2007.

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europ ... index.html
 
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Wed May 22, 2019 2:42 am

Hey cool! They got 4 Bears airborne all at the same time! See them again same time next month.
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Wed May 22, 2019 4:14 am

Would be pretty great if a C-17 could receive a call out to intercept them instead of the 22s. Would love to see a shot of one alongside them along with a close up of their reaction.
 
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Wed May 22, 2019 6:57 am

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Would be pretty great if a C-17 could receive a call out to intercept them instead of the 22s. Would love to see a shot of one alongside them along with a close up of their reaction.


And how is a C-17 going to take off, climb and reach a TU-95 flying at high altitude and cruise speed?
By the time it´s there, the Bear is back over central Siberia :-)

On a Facebook page about Cold War Aircraft I´ve seen a cool composite picture of a TU-95 being escorted by different American aircrafts in different decades:
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Wed May 22, 2019 9:07 am

Need some new F-15s up there in Alaska.
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Wed May 22, 2019 5:28 pm

Maybe using a B-52 to intercept next time!
 
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Re: Russia plays near Alaska

Wed May 22, 2019 6:57 pm

hmmwv wrote:
Maybe using a B-52 to intercept next time!


There's photos online of them getting chased down by A-7s so anything's possible with the right intercept vectors.
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Wed May 22, 2019 7:28 pm

They're probably just upset we didn't invite them to our exercise earlier this month~

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Re: Russia plays near Alaska

Thu May 23, 2019 12:02 am

This kind of stuff has been happening on and off for decades. It's nothing new. Here's a pretty cool video from the 80's or 90's about American and Russian encounters in this region. It seems that both the Russian and American crews got a real kick out of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMb9OmXDj4g
 
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Thu May 23, 2019 4:20 am

US Fighter pilots aren't the only ones getting a little training, Russia intercepts US aircraft from time to time as well.

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/06/poli ... index.html

I don't think the US does it as frequently as the Russians, could be wrong though.
 
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Thu May 23, 2019 9:02 pm

During the 90's these types of missions from Russia basically went down to 0 as they didn't have the money, however they have steadely increased in the last 10 years and Norwegian and British fighter aircraft have to scramble to intercept. However we are still far, far away from the number of scrambles during the Cold war. Problem today is that the Russians fly without their transponders on and far more agressively.

Norwegian F-16's had a close encounter with a Su-27 Flanker:

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Norwegian F-16 and Russian Tu-95 and Il-78

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Norwegian F-16 and Russian SU-34 Fullback

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Russian Midas tanker and Mig 31 "Foxhound" bombers

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Photo: Royal Norwegian air force

Norwegian F-16 and two Russian Tu-160 Belyy Lebed ( White Swan )

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Fri May 24, 2019 3:04 pm

foxhound bombers? wanna see them with free falling bombs.
 
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Sat May 25, 2019 7:52 pm

So what happen if a Russian aircraft(s) that was being shadowed flew into that nation's airspace. If it didn't turn around would it be somehow forced down?
 
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Sun May 26, 2019 12:44 am

dfwjim1 wrote:
So what happen if a Russian aircraft(s) that was being shadowed flew into that nation's airspace. If it didn't turn around would it be somehow forced down?



Forced to turn / down or as a last resort shot down. Why do you ask ?
 
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Sun May 26, 2019 9:17 am

dfwjim1 wrote:
So what happen if a Russian aircraft(s) that was being shadowed flew into that nation's airspace. If it didn't turn around would it be somehow forced down?


It would be extremely unprofessional and embarrassing if they did this. The US & Russia may poke and prod one another, but that's kind of an unspoken line neither would cross. Nevermind the fact that it wouldn't accomplish anything but serving the nation whose airspace you'd be penetrating.
 
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Sun May 26, 2019 10:03 am

Mortyman wrote:
dfwjim1 wrote:
So what happen if a Russian aircraft(s) that was being shadowed flew into that nation's airspace. If it didn't turn around would it be somehow forced down?



Forced to turn / down or as a last resort shot down. Why do you ask ?


Just curious...
 
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Sun May 26, 2019 10:47 am

DigitalSea wrote:
dfwjim1 wrote:
So what happen if a Russian aircraft(s) that was being shadowed flew into that nation's airspace. If it didn't turn around would it be somehow forced down?


It would be extremely unprofessional and embarrassing if they did this. The US & Russia may poke and prod one another, but that's kind of an unspoken line neither would cross. Nevermind the fact that it wouldn't accomplish anything but serving the nation whose airspace you'd be penetrating.


Not sure about unprofessional and embarrassing, but... seems reality in many cases. Some examples:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-finl ... SKBN1DZ16S
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St ... viet_Union
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/ ... eden-24687
 
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Sun May 26, 2019 4:34 pm

hmmwv wrote:
Maybe using a B-52 to intercept next time!


No, those are flying into Russia border area's , exercising their right to fly in this internation airspace.

https://www.polygraph.info/a/b52-intercepted-russian-jets-fact-check/29836853.html

These don't really hit the headlines, do they?
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Re: Russia plays near Alaska

Mon May 27, 2019 3:07 am

keesje wrote:
hmmwv wrote:
Maybe using a B-52 to intercept next time!


No, those are flying into Russia border area's , exercising their right to fly in this internation airspace.

https://www.polygraph.info/a/b52-intercepted-russian-jets-fact-check/29836853.html

These don't really hit the headlines, do they?


I’m sure they make headlines in Russia.

These flights from both sides seem a waste of resources. What purpose do they serve?
 
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Mon May 27, 2019 10:53 am

Planeflyer wrote:
keesje wrote:
hmmwv wrote:
Maybe using a B-52 to intercept next time!


No, those are flying into Russia border area's , exercising their right to fly in this internation airspace.

https://www.polygraph.info/a/b52-intercepted-russian-jets-fact-check/29836853.html

These don't really hit the headlines, do they?


I’m sure they make headlines in Russia.

These flights from both sides seem a waste of resources. What purpose do they serve?



Testing each others readiness, air crews have to train anyway, so if you don't overdo it, it is fine.
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Mon May 27, 2019 1:19 pm

Ok sounds reasonable assuming the bombers are flying w/o weapons. Anyone no for sure on this?
 
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Wed May 29, 2019 7:26 am

Planeflyer wrote:
Ok sounds reasonable assuming the bombers are flying w/o weapons. Anyone no for sure on this?


I'm betting they are flying with a full weapon load. Otherwise what's the point? During the cold war they certainly were.
 
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Wed May 29, 2019 7:35 am

MatthewDB wrote:
Planeflyer wrote:
Ok sounds reasonable assuming the bombers are flying w/o weapons. Anyone no for sure on this?


I'm betting they are flying with a full weapon load. Otherwise what's the point? During the cold war they certainly were.

Could you cite your sources?

I can guarantee, there are no weapons loaded, other than chaff and flares. The Chrome Dome missions ended in 68, those missions were flown with a full SIOP load. Each mission was 24 hours.
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