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Russian planes in Venezuela

Thu Jun 27, 2019 12:59 am

I just saw a recent story online about one of two Russian Federation aircraft leaving Venezuela to head back to base. For an IL-62M to make this journey, what stops are required from/to Moscow?
 
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Re: Russian planes in Venezuela

Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:36 am

None if there are no passengers or cargo. If it was for Embassy staff & Russian citizens, then I would suspect Montreal & Shannon, as one is an Aeroflot destination & a the other a past fueling stop for the IL-62 between NYC & MOW. There would likely be much to consider, the US requires the passport names of passengers even overflying their airspace, if then, maybe the Bahamas & Azores or who really knows if it's VIP's or tourists.
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Re: Russian planes in Venezuela

Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:47 am

RWA380 wrote:
None if there are no passengers or cargo. If it was for Embassy staff & Russian citizens, then I would suspect Montreal & Shannon, as one is an Aeroflot destination & a the other a past fueling stop for the IL-62 between NYC & MOW. There would likely be much to consider, the US requires the passport names of passengers even overflying their airspace, if then, maybe the Bahamas & Azores or who really knows if it's VIP's or tourists.

Would they require the names if it's a diplomatic flight?
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Re: Russian planes in Venezuela

Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:00 am

TWA772LR wrote:
RWA380 wrote:
None if there are no passengers or cargo. If it was for Embassy staff & Russian citizens, then I would suspect Montreal & Shannon, as one is an Aeroflot destination & a the other a past fueling stop for the IL-62 between NYC & MOW. There would likely be much to consider, the US requires the passport names of passengers even overflying their airspace, if then, maybe the Bahamas & Azores or who really knows if it's VIP's or tourists.

Would they require the names if it's a diplomatic flight?


Very good question, I suspect if it overflies US airspace the US can do what they wish as far as denying or granting overfly rights, but I suspect it would be allowed if Russia asked for this flight to be exempt & there is someone or someones onboard that the Russians wish to retain as secret. For example if one of these men in Venezuela that are fighting currently were to loot the country & flee, the US would want to know that & likely would take action to ground those aircraft in the USA somehow. Which is why I'd guess they'd just route via more Russia friendly countries, that don't care who is onboard & may be happy with a pre-paid fee to guarantee safe & expedient refueling .
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Re: Russian planes in Venezuela

Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:03 am

Why would they take a detour to overfly US airspace?
 
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Re: Russian planes in Venezuela

Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:43 am

arcticcruiser wrote:
Why would they take a detour to overfly US airspace?


so that the skies above the land of the free and home of the brave at least once in a while get in touch wkth a real aircraft. a beautyful, graceful and elegant IL-62M, a real man's aircraft by the way, not the kind of every day junk made by boeing or airbus, can seen a gift by the russian people to those in the us, that value the looks and sound of true aviation!
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Re: Russian planes in Venezuela

Thu Jun 27, 2019 6:50 am

I expect that they will look for a route bypassing the US if there is any risk.
 
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Re: Russian planes in Venezuela

Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:28 am

Some vodka burner chemtrails for a change !
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Re: Russian planes in Venezuela

Fri Jun 28, 2019 4:54 am

Ty134A wrote:
so that the skies above the land of the free and home of the brave at least once in a while get in touch wkth a real aircraft. a beautyful, graceful and elegant IL-62M, a real man's aircraft by the way, not the kind of every day junk made by boeing or airbus, can seen a gift by the russian people to those in the us, that value the looks and sound of true aviation!


:lol:

Is this another one of those Russian flights where the pilots take off their shirts?

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Re: Russian planes in Venezuela

Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:57 pm

Depending on weather and range consideration, a stop in either Gander, the Azores or North Africa would be possibilities. Shannon unlikely in this day and age.

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