Mat1776
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IAF Jaguar Aircraft Jettisoned Fuel Tanks upon Bird Strike on Take Off

Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:10 pm

On the morning of 27 June19, an IAF Jaguar aircraft loaded with two additional fuel drop tanks & Carrier Bomb Light Stores (CBLS) pods took off from AFS Ambala for a training
mission. Immediately after take off, the aircraft encountered a flock of birds.

The bird hit resulted in the failure of one of its engines. Despite most serious emergencies staring in his face, the young pilot assessed the situation in seconds, jettisoned two additional fuel drop tanks & CBLS Pods as per Standard Operating Procedure & safely landed the a/c.


https://twitter.com/IAF_MCC/status/1144611963663597572

It's great that the pilot was able to save the difficult situation, but the dropped fuel tanks/bombs(?) exploded a little too close to the commercial/residential area, methinks.
 
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Re: IAF Jaguar Aircraft Jettisoned Fuel Tanks upon Bird Strike on Take Off

Mon Jul 01, 2019 12:31 pm

In an emergency, everything goes. As I understand, one of de bomb? landed outside of the parameters of the airbase, but no-one was hurt. Great job to land his craft.
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Re: IAF Jaguar Aircraft Jettisoned Fuel Tanks upon Bird Strike on Take Off

Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:24 pm

Great video and amazing presence of mind by the pilot ! ..but why was anyone filming this?
 
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Re: IAF Jaguar Aircraft Jettisoned Fuel Tanks upon Bird Strike on Take Off

Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:21 pm

WingsFan wrote:
Great video and amazing presence of mind by the pilot ! ..but why was anyone filming this?


People film aircraft taking off and landing all of the time, no surprise there.
 
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Re: IAF Jaguar Aircraft Jettisoned Fuel Tanks upon Bird Strike on Take Off

Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:29 pm

HaveBlue wrote:
WingsFan wrote:
Great video and amazing presence of mind by the pilot ! ..but why was anyone filming this?


People film aircraft taking off and landing all of the time, no surprise there.



Not where Indian Air Force operates. In India aviation photography is a big no-no at IAF locations.
 
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Re: IAF Jaguar Aircraft Jettisoned Fuel Tanks upon Bird Strike on Take Off

Mon Jul 01, 2019 3:49 pm

WingsFan wrote:
Not where Indian Air Force operates. In India aviation photography is a big no-no at IAF locations.

The twitter handle is that of the IAF Media Coordination Centre, and the POV doesn't look like that of a random spotter outside the fence, but perhaps from the control tower.
 
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Re: IAF Jaguar Aircraft Jettisoned Fuel Tanks upon Bird Strike on Take Off

Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:15 pm

Luckily there are no apron at where the tanks landed, otherwise we'd have a much different discussion here.
 
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Re: IAF Jaguar Aircraft Jettisoned Fuel Tanks upon Bird Strike on Take Off

Mon Jul 01, 2019 8:42 pm

WingsFan wrote:
HaveBlue wrote:
WingsFan wrote:
Great video and amazing presence of mind by the pilot ! ..but why was anyone filming this?


People film aircraft taking off and landing all of the time, no surprise there.



Not where Indian Air Force operates. In India aviation photography is a big no-no at IAF locations.


I did not know that, thank you. Here in the US it is not a big deal, even at military bases.
 
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Re: IAF Jaguar Aircraft Jettisoned Fuel Tanks upon Bird Strike on Take Off

Tue Jul 02, 2019 4:29 am

Nice video. He should do that same routine for airshows!
 
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Re: IAF Jaguar Aircraft Jettisoned Fuel Tanks upon Bird Strike on Take Off

Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:49 am

Too close for comfort yes, but had he ejected, then it would be a much bigger fireball, so no safer for people on the ground.
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Re: IAF Jaguar Aircraft Jettisoned Fuel Tanks upon Bird Strike on Take Off

Tue Jul 02, 2019 1:36 pm

Makes you question the decision to build a city right up to the fences of a military airfield. Imagine if this had been a single-engine jet, e. g. an F-16.
 
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Re: IAF Jaguar Aircraft Jettisoned Fuel Tanks upon Bird Strike on Take Off

Tue Jul 02, 2019 3:16 pm

mxaxai wrote:
Makes you question the decision to build a city right up to the fences of a military airfield. Imagine if this had been a single-engine jet, e. g. an F-16.

Happens with enough frequency, including to the F-16. This report is from an incident from May last year, https://theaviationist.com/2018/05/09/t ... -take-off/

Having two engines also doesn't guarantee you will survive a bird strike as shown here with the Su-30 bird strike in Syria last year, https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=210347
 
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Re: IAF Jaguar Aircraft Jettisoned Fuel Tanks upon Bird Strike on Take Off

Tue Jul 02, 2019 8:52 pm

mxaxai wrote:
Makes you question the decision to build a city right up to the fences of a military airfield. Imagine if this had been a single-engine jet, e. g. an F-16.

Not by design, that's for sure. Between corruption, overpopulation and haphazard town planning, no one obeys the radius limiting construction around air bases. It used to be a kilometre or so many years ago, and some time recently they relaxed it down to 300m or something (sorry, for the vagueness, it's not something I track closely).

I've been to bases where there are multi-storey homes right by the main gate. The civil authorities turn a blind eye, and the IAF has no jurisdiction. By the time the matter gets to the courts, you're looking at displacing a few thousand people who now illegally live right next to the base boundary wall... and then no one has the stones to take the right decision.

WingsFan wrote:
Great video and amazing presence of mind by the pilot ! ..but why was anyone filming this?

It's been SOP for years to film all launches and recoveries. They usually have an airman with a camcorder at ATC or a suitable vantage point overlooking the rwy. Done precisely for incidents like this (and some that turn out worse).
 
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Re: IAF Jaguar Aircraft Jettisoned Fuel Tanks upon Bird Strike on Take Off

Tue Jul 02, 2019 9:17 pm

The Jaguar was obviously heavy at take-off, has a small wing & 1 engine out obviously is no fun in this situation. He had a short time slot to decide on dropping the load on the field & took the best, procedural decision.
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Re: IAF Jaguar Aircraft Jettisoned Fuel Tanks upon Bird Strike on Take Off

Tue Jul 02, 2019 10:48 pm

mxaxai wrote:
Makes you question the decision to build a city right up to the fences of a military airfield. Imagine if this had been a single-engine jet, e. g. an F-16.


You might look up the history of Davis-Monthan AFB near Tucson, AZ. It was an early F-4 base until one crashed into the city. Out of politics, the A-7 replaced the Phantoms until one of them crashed into the university killing four on the ground. The A-7s went away and there’s been A-10s ever since.

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Re: IAF Jaguar Aircraft Jettisoned Fuel Tanks upon Bird Strike on Take Off

Wed Jul 03, 2019 3:37 am

GalaxyFlyer wrote:
mxaxai wrote:
Makes you question the decision to build a city right up to the fences of a military airfield. Imagine if this had been a single-engine jet, e. g. an F-16.


You might look up the history of Davis-Monthan AFB near Tucson, AZ. It was an early F-4 base until one crashed into the city. Out of politics, the A-7 replaced the Phantoms until one of them crashed into the university killing four on the ground. The A-7s went away and there’s been A-10s ever since.

GF

The ANG at Tucson international flew A-7s for several years after they left DM and then went to F-16s to include international training. Their arrivals and departures probably don't get as close to high density population areas as the DM's procedures. There have been a couple of foreign F-16s training jets crash in the desert, but thankfully nobody on the ground was hurt.
 
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Re: IAF Jaguar Aircraft Jettisoned Fuel Tanks upon Bird Strike on Take Off

Wed Jul 03, 2019 3:08 pm

Yeah, I went thru F-100 RTU at the ANG when they had both types.
 
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Re: IAF Jaguar Aircraft Jettisoned Fuel Tanks upon Bird Strike on Take Off

Wed Jul 03, 2019 4:08 pm

Mat1776 wrote:
On the morning of 27 June19, an IAF Jaguar aircraft loaded with two additional fuel drop tanks & Carrier Bomb Light Stores (CBLS) pods took off from AFS Ambala for a training
mission. Immediately after take off, the aircraft encountered a flock of birds.

The bird hit resulted in the failure of one of its engines. Despite most serious emergencies staring in his face, the young pilot assessed the situation in seconds, jettisoned two additional fuel drop tanks & CBLS Pods as per Standard Operating Procedure & safely landed the a/c.


https://twitter.com/IAF_MCC/status/1144611963663597572

It's great that the pilot was able to save the difficult situation, but the dropped fuel tanks/bombs(?) exploded a little too close to the commercial/residential area, methinks.

You think an uncontrolled crash would have been preferable to a controlled drop?

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