ThePointblank wrote:That just leaves the officers as the most experienced personnel.
Really?
NCOs usually are not part of the flow of conscripts.
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ThePointblank wrote:That just leaves the officers as the most experienced personnel.
WIederling wrote:ThePointblank wrote:That just leaves the officers as the most experienced personnel.
Really?
NCOs usually are not part of the flow of conscripts.
ThePointblank wrote:The Russian Navy doesn't have a NCO program unlike the Russian Army, which has in recent times. Even then, the Russian NCO's are considered to be lacking:
https://jamestown.org/program/russias-n ... ract-ncos/
VSMUT wrote:The "Jamestown foundation" has (and always had) a very anti-Russian/Soviet bias. I wouldn't put much trust in an article about Russia coming from them.
DenverA330 wrote:If we're going to start up threads cataloging military aircraft incidents, perhaps there should be one for each of the major powers? (US, UK, China, Japan)
DenverA330 wrote:Just curious, what's the point of this thread? If we're going to start up threads cataloging military aircraft incidents, perhaps there should be one for each of the major powers? (US, UK, China, Japan) This thread seems redundant seeing as how it's two years old, and half the replies are from the same poster who seems to keep track of Russian aircraft crashes for fun, and thinks the Ukrainian Air Force is just the tops.
Phosphorus wrote:An-26, Balashov, Russia, with casualties
Looks like a write-off.
http://www.balashov4.ru/an-26-ne-dolete ... 50-metrov/
Balerit wrote:DenverA330 wrote:Just curious, what's the point of this thread? If we're going to start up threads cataloging military aircraft incidents, perhaps there should be one for each of the major powers? (US, UK, China, Japan) This thread seems redundant seeing as how it's two years old, and half the replies are from the same poster who seems to keep track of Russian aircraft crashes for fun, and thinks the Ukrainian Air Force is just the tops.
It's a Russia bashing page, the Yanks have just as bad a safety record, why this week there were apparently several US aircraft involved in emergency landings. I agree, there should be balance as well as intelligent discussion on thes incidents.
Scipio wrote:In early-May, this picture circulated on some social media:
It is said to depict Mig-29K, 41 blue, of the 100th carrier-based fighter regiment of the Northern Fleet.This crash has not been covered in mainstream media, and no details of what happened seem available.
Balerit wrote:It's a Russia bashing page, the Yanks have just as bad a safety record, why this week there were apparently several US aircraft involved in emergency landings. I agree, there should be balance as well as intelligent discussion on thes incidents.
Phosphorus wrote:Scipio wrote:In early-May, this picture circulated on some social media:
It is said to depict Mig-29K, 41 blue, of the 100th carrier-based fighter regiment of the Northern Fleet.This crash has not been covered in mainstream media, and no details of what happened seem available.
If memory serves me, these Mig-29K, with folding wings and other bells and whistles for carrier operations, were a rather rare commodity. Are they still in production?
Phosphorus wrote:Scipio wrote:In early-May, this picture circulated on some social media:
It is said to depict Mig-29K, 41 blue, of the 100th carrier-based fighter regiment of the Northern Fleet.This crash has not been covered in mainstream media, and no details of what happened seem available.
If memory serves me, these Mig-29K, with folding wings and other bells and whistles for carrier operations, were a rather rare commodity. Are they still in production?
ThePointblank wrote:Phosphorus wrote:Scipio wrote:In early-May, this picture circulated on some social media:
It is said to depict Mig-29K, 41 blue, of the 100th carrier-based fighter regiment of the Northern Fleet.This crash has not been covered in mainstream media, and no details of what happened seem available.
If memory serves me, these Mig-29K, with folding wings and other bells and whistles for carrier operations, were a rather rare commodity. Are they still in production?
Might be still possible to order one, but all deliveries are complete.
If this crash is also confirmed, that's 2 MiG-29K's lost in a period of half a year... with a fleet size that was originally 24 aircraft, not exactly an auspicious safety record.
mmo wrote:Balerit wrote:It's a Russia bashing page, the Yanks have just as bad a safety record, why this week there were apparently several US aircraft involved in emergency landings. I agree, there should be balance as well as intelligent discussion on thes incidents.
Care to back this statement up with facts rather than just your opinion. If you look at accident rates, I think you might eat your words. Also, how are emergency landings comparable to crashes???
Balerit wrote:mmo wrote:Balerit wrote:It's a Russia bashing page, the Yanks have just as bad a safety record, why this week there were apparently several US aircraft involved in emergency landings. I agree, there should be balance as well as intelligent discussion on thes incidents.
Care to back this statement up with facts rather than just your opinion. If you look at accident rates, I think you might eat your words. Also, how are emergency landings comparable to crashes???
2 F16's down in two days plus one in April. Also a multitude of oxygen problems on the newest aircraft.
Phosphorus wrote:An-26, Balashov, Russia, with casualties
Looks like a write-off.
http://www.balashov4.ru/an-26-ne-dolete ... 50-metrov/
Dutchy wrote:So 68 left in service (69 according to Wiki). Good to see everyone is all right.
Dutchy wrote:As I understand it, around 500 Tu-22M were build, although a number were inherited by Belarus and Ukraine, the mainstay was within the Russian Federation.
sovietjet wrote:Dutchy wrote:As I understand it, around 500 Tu-22M were build, although a number were inherited by Belarus and Ukraine, the mainstay was within the Russian Federation.
Around 500 were built, but a large part of that number were Tu-22M2, only 268 were Tu-22M3. Of those, at least half have been retired, scrapped, or crashed. Right now only the Tu-22M3 is left in service.
WIederling wrote:sovietjet wrote:Dutchy wrote:As I understand it, around 500 Tu-22M were build, although a number were inherited by Belarus and Ukraine, the mainstay was within the Russian Federation.
Around 500 were built, but a large part of that number were Tu-22M2, only 268 were Tu-22M3. Of those, at least half have been retired, scrapped, or crashed. Right now only the Tu-22M3 is left in service.
the M1, M2 frames have been destroyed in scope of the Strategic Arms limitation treaties.
What I found:
2014 100 operational
2017 61 operational.
100+ in storage ( but partly vandalized for parts.)
( WP:DE says the M3 represented the majority of frames built !? )
sovietjet wrote:However, some are still flying without RF- numbers. And some RF- numbers might now be stored. So yes, based on the RF- numbers and google earth count, I’d say around 60 are active.
Phosphorus wrote:TU-22M3 of Russian air force, hull number 20 "red", registration RF-94233, ran off the runway. No casualties, a writeoff.
Some photos here:
https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?s= ... tcount=390
ExMilitaryEng wrote:Wow, at about the 57 seconds mark, you can see the left wing going up in pieces! Luckily the fuel in it did not ignite. (maybe there are no fuel cells in the "variable wing" portion?)
WIederling wrote:ExMilitaryEng wrote:Wow, at about the 57 seconds mark, you can see the left wing going up in pieces! Luckily the fuel in it did not ignite. (maybe there are no fuel cells in the "variable wing" portion?)
afaik never. Think about the complications.
.... but anyone got a translation for
97: deposito integrado en ala barbor
( "60: deposito combustible en raiz ~= fuel tank in root )
cpd wrote:If that is what I take it to be, then it's a miracle it didn't go off like a bomb. What would be the typical fuel loading for these planes I wonder, and how is it distributed across the tanks the plane has?
cpd wrote:That was a very lucky escape there for that crew. There is a cutaway drawing of the TU-22M:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c6/e1/e8 ... 6e2080.jpg
AirlineCritic wrote:cpd wrote:That was a very lucky escape there for that crew. There is a cutaway drawing of the TU-22M:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c6/e1/e8 ... 6e2080.jpg
Thanks for the video, very interesting and scary. But what happened?
AirlineCritic wrote:Hmm. Interesting, but must have a been a close call even with that kind of fault. Try to fly without knowing airspeed, or crash and burn at the end of the runway? Luckily they didn't burn, but no one could have known that when aborting...
Scipio wrote:On December 31, Russia's Hmeymim Air Base in Syria was attacked with mortar fire. Unofficial reports suggest that seven aircraft were destroyed: 4 Su-24s, 2 Su-35s, and an An-72. In addition, several Russian military staff were killed or wounded.
Russia's Ministry of Defense has acknowledged the attack, but denies that seven aircraft were destroyed. However, pictures are emerging of damaged aircraft.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/russia-de ... ria-2018-1
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/17 ... tos-emerge
Separately, Russia lost a Mi-24 in Syria, in a crash blamed on a technical fault. The two pilots perished, but the board technician reportedly survived and was recovered.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mide ... SKBN1ES0LI
Scorpius wrote:Scipio wrote:On December 31, Russia's Hmeymim Air Base in Syria was attacked with mortar fire. Unofficial reports suggest that seven aircraft were destroyed: 4 Su-24s, 2 Su-35s, and an An-72. In addition, several Russian military staff were killed or wounded.
Russia's Ministry of Defense has acknowledged the attack, but denies that seven aircraft were destroyed. However, pictures are emerging of damaged aircraft.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/russia-de ... ria-2018-1
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/17 ... tos-emerge
Separately, Russia lost a Mi-24 in Syria, in a crash blamed on a technical fault. The two pilots perished, but the board technician reportedly survived and was recovered.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mide ... SKBN1ES0LI
About the destruction of 7 aircraft a fake. The Russian defense Ministry says two of the victims in the result of mortar fire.: http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/4856695
From the available online photos, which, allegedly, visible damage to the aircraft after firing, can not see any very serious damage:
sovietjet wrote:The leak is fuel. But, until more concrete evidence comes out, there is no way to prove or disprove how many aircraft were damaged.