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A400M Update Thread 2020

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:54 pm
by Noray
Welcome to the A400m Update Thread for 2020. Please add your comments below.

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Re: A400M Update Thread 2020

Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:56 pm
by Noray
At Christmas, the 100th aerial refueling mission of an A400M during Operation Counter Daesh was flown in the Middle East.
https://twitter.com/Team_Luftwaffe/stat ... 9399339009 (German)

The A400M's versatility in the tanker, tactical and logistical roles proved useful after the recent events in Iraq, when the German aircraft (54+22) that was on location in Al Azraq/Jordan as aerial refueller for fast jets, evacuated 32 German soldiers from Taji/Iraq and took them back to Germany.

According to one of the pilots, the night-time evacuation from Taji took place in a threat situation, and they landed after a fast and steep approach. The aircraft didn't spend more than nine minutes on the ground to collect 32 soldiers before it took off again to Al Azraq. The same aircraft has returned to Germany with the soldiers temporarily evacuated from Iraq.
https://twitter.com/Bw_Einsatz/status/1 ... 1559222272 (German)
https://twitter.com/Team_Luftwaffe/stat ... 2958559238 (German)

Re: A400M Update Thread 2020

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 9:37 pm
by PepeTheFrog
Wow, check out this air drop video with a Spanish A400M: https://twitter.com/AgueraMartin/status ... 0708028416

Re: A400M Update Thread 2020

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:03 pm
by Ozair
PepeTheFrog wrote:
Wow, check out this air drop video with a Spanish A400M: https://twitter.com/AgueraMartin/status ... 0708028416

Crazy, must have been packed inside like sardines before the jump.

Re: A400M Update Thread 2020

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2020 11:41 pm
by Grizzly410
Ozair wrote:
PepeTheFrog wrote:
Wow, check out this air drop video with a Spanish A400M: https://twitter.com/AgueraMartin/status ... 0708028416

Crazy, must have been packed inside like sardines before the jump.

Packed as designed actually, 114 paratroopers jumped for 116 troop seat.
http://www.ejercitodelaire.mde.es/EA/ej ... -del-Aire/

Dumb question, sorry. They jump from the ramp, paratrooper doors are only certified for 80, 40x2 (116 soon). In operation, what's the difference to jump from ramp or side doors ? The use of static line ?
https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-r ... patch.html

Re: A400M Update Thread 2020

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 12:05 am
by kc135topboom
Grizzly410 wrote:
Ozair wrote:
PepeTheFrog wrote:
Wow, check out this air drop video with a Spanish A400M: https://twitter.com/AgueraMartin/status ... 0708028416

Crazy, must have been packed inside like sardines before the jump.

Packed as designed actually, 114 paratroopers jumped for 116 troop seat.
http://www.ejercitodelaire.mde.es/EA/ej ... -del-Aire/

Dumb question, sorry. They jump from the ramp, paratrooper doors are only certified for 80, 40x2 (116 soon). In operation, what's the difference to jump from ramp or side doors ? The use of static line ?
https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-r ... patch.html


Paratrooper doors with a static line are usually at a lower altitude, below 10,000'. Ramp jump is usually for HALO jumps.

Re: A400M Update Thread 2020

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2020 3:52 am
by jupiter2
PepeTheFrog wrote:
Wow, check out this air drop video with a Spanish A400M: https://twitter.com/AgueraMartin/status ... 0708028416


They dive out so gracefully, then whack, they hit the air stream :wideeyed:

Re: A400M Update Thread 2020

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:28 am
by Slug71
Hopefully this is the year that Airbus can get all the kinks worked out and get on track with the final certifications that need done.

For the most part, it seems the engine issues have been addressed. There doesn't seem to be much in the way of reports for the past year.

There hasn't been much at all about the low level, collision avoidance, and terrain following capabilities. So can one assume these are good to go?

It seems the major issues to be addressed now are the helicopter refueling and the paratrooper side doors. All of which have been worked on for some time. I imagine good progress is being made with the refueling since the tests began in September last year.

Re: A400M Update Thread 2020

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:22 am
by Grizzly410
Slug71 wrote:
Hopefully this is the year that Airbus can get all the kinks worked out and get on track with the final certifications that need done.

For the most part, it seems the engine issues have been addressed. There doesn't seem to be much in the way of reports for the past year.

There hasn't been much at all about the low level, collision avoidance, and terrain following capabilities. So can one assume these are good to go?

It seems the major issues to be addressed now are the helicopter refueling and the paratrooper side doors. All of which have been worked on for some time. I imagine good progress is being made with the refueling since the tests began in September last year.


Paratrooper side door jump envelope to be extended from 40x2 to 58x2 soon, Helicopter refuel dry contacts done with H225, wet contact trials flight tests very soon, IRC certification flights planned before summer.
MSN56 is working hard on low level flight and associated features certification, but I believe these capabilities are to be delivered in a later year.

Re: A400M Update Thread 2020

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:32 pm
by Slug71
Grizzly410 wrote:
Slug71 wrote:
Hopefully this is the year that Airbus can get all the kinks worked out and get on track with the final certifications that need done.

For the most part, it seems the engine issues have been addressed. There doesn't seem to be much in the way of reports for the past year.

There hasn't been much at all about the low level, collision avoidance, and terrain following capabilities. So can one assume these are good to go?

It seems the major issues to be addressed now are the helicopter refueling and the paratrooper side doors. All of which have been worked on for some time. I imagine good progress is being made with the refueling since the tests began in September last year.


Paratrooper side door jump envelope to be extended from 40x2 to 58x2 soon, Helicopter refuel dry contacts done with H225, wet contact trials flight tests very soon, IRC certification flights planned before summer.
MSN56 is working hard on low level flight and associated features certification, but I believe these capabilities are to be delivered in a later year.


Thanks for the updates. Do you know how the proximity tests with the H160 went?

Re: A400M Update Thread 2020

Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 8:49 am
by Grizzly410
Slug71 wrote:
Grizzly410 wrote:
Slug71 wrote:
Hopefully this is the year that Airbus can get all the kinks worked out and get on track with the final certifications that need done.

For the most part, it seems the engine issues have been addressed. There doesn't seem to be much in the way of reports for the past year.

There hasn't been much at all about the low level, collision avoidance, and terrain following capabilities. So can one assume these are good to go?

It seems the major issues to be addressed now are the helicopter refueling and the paratrooper side doors. All of which have been worked on for some time. I imagine good progress is being made with the refueling since the tests began in September last year.


Paratrooper side door jump envelope to be extended from 40x2 to 58x2 soon, Helicopter refuel dry contacts done with H225, wet contact trials flight tests very soon, IRC certification flights planned before summer.
MSN56 is working hard on low level flight and associated features certification, but I believe these capabilities are to be delivered in a later year.


Thanks for the updates. Do you know how the proximity tests with the H160 went?


Unfortunately nothing more than "no issue has been reported."
Last week the pods have been installed on MSN4 and then it flew to Istres, I suspect we'll know more soon !

Re: A400M Update Thread 2020

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:33 am
by Slug71
Grizzly410 wrote:
Slug71 wrote:
Grizzly410 wrote:

Paratrooper side door jump envelope to be extended from 40x2 to 58x2 soon, Helicopter refuel dry contacts done with H225, wet contact trials flight tests very soon, IRC certification flights planned before summer.
MSN56 is working hard on low level flight and associated features certification, but I believe these capabilities are to be delivered in a later year.


Thanks for the updates. Do you know how the proximity tests with the H160 went?


Unfortunately nothing more than "no issue has been reported."
Last week the pods have been installed on MSN4 and then it flew to Istres, I suspect we'll know more soon !


Good news. Thanks for the updates!

Re: A400M Update Thread 2020

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 11:12 pm
by Ozair
Another year another financial hit on Airbus for the A400M. Good at least to see perhaps some rational realistic discussion may be had on the export potential…

Airbus takes hit as A400M faces export hurdles

Airbus incurred a fresh €1.2 billion ($1.3 billion) charge against its A400M tactical transport programme in the fourth quarter of 2019, having “reassessed its assumptions on future export deliveries”.

Detailing the development in a full-year results announcement on 13 February, Airbus says: “While the rebaselining of the A400M programme was completed and significant progress has been made on technical capabilities, the outlook is increasingly challenging on exports during the launch contract phase, also in light of the repeatedly extended German export ban to Saudi Arabia.”

Airbus chief executive Guillaume Faury describes the German government’s action as creating “significant headwinds on export”, and says the company is “awaiting clarification” regarding its potential further impact.

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https://www.flightglobal.com/defence/ai ... 39.article

Re: A400M Update Thread 2020

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 8:35 pm
by majano
Ozair wrote:
Another year another financial hit on Airbus for the A400M. Good at least to see perhaps some rational realistic discussion may be had on the export potential…

Airbus takes hit as A400M faces export hurdles

Airbus incurred a fresh €1.2 billion ($1.3 billion) charge against its A400M tactical transport programme in the fourth quarter of 2019, having “reassessed its assumptions on future export deliveries”.

Detailing the development in a full-year results announcement on 13 February, Airbus says: “While the rebaselining of the A400M programme was completed and significant progress has been made on technical capabilities, the outlook is increasingly challenging on exports during the launch contract phase, also in light of the repeatedly extended German export ban to Saudi Arabia.”

Airbus chief executive Guillaume Faury describes the German government’s action as creating “significant headwinds on export”, and says the company is “awaiting clarification” regarding its potential further impact.

...

https://www.flightglobal.com/defence/ai ... 39.article

So the German government is blocking potential sales of the A400M to Saudi Arabia for political reasons. Yet, during the contract renegotiations the same German government takes a very hard line and is uncompromising. They have at certain times reduced their orders or threatened to do so and have had the most difficulties with introducing the A400M to service.