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US military bases in Afghanistan after drawdown?

Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:58 am

With Joe Biden's recent announcement to withdraw US forces in Afghanistan what will become of the remaining bases will they become commercial airports or will they be handed over to the Afghan military? Any thoughts?
 
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Re: US military bases in Afghanistan after drawdown?

Thu Apr 15, 2021 1:21 pm

UA857 wrote:
With Joe Biden's recent announcement to withdraw US forces in Afghanistan what will become of the remaining bases will they become commercial airports or will they be handed over to the Afghan military? Any thoughts?


US Air Bases in foreign countries are not owned by the US. They are usually leased and arrangements are made with the current governments for use. When the US leaves, the bases simply are turned over to the foreign government. That nation's government will determine whether it be used commercially or only military. Bases in Vietnam and Thailand went both ways and some simply abandoned. Clark AB, PI is now mainly a commercial airport although their are some elements of the Philippine AF there. Several bases in Germany were completely closed and made into industrial areas. In Afghanistan, determining who's in charge to make that decision will be a challenge.
 
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Re: US military bases in Afghanistan after drawdown?

Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:31 pm

The Taliban AF will operate them eventually.
 
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Re: US military bases in Afghanistan after drawdown?

Thu Apr 15, 2021 5:27 pm

No Afghan government will be able to maintain control vs. the Taliban. They will be mortared/shelled and over-run. It will be sad to see their nascent AF destroyed but it is inevitable now.
 
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Re: US military bases in Afghanistan after drawdown?

Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:18 pm

texl1649 wrote:
No Afghan government will be able to maintain control vs. the Taliban. They will be mortared/shelled and over-run. It will be sad to see their nascent AF destroyed but it is inevitable now.

It will not be destroyed. The equipment will simply be handed over to the new government formed by the Taliban, and the crews will be given the choice to join them or 'retire'.

After the forced reunification of Vietnam, the Vietnamese air force continued operating plenty of F-5, C-130 and UH-1 that had been given to the South by the US. Afghanistan will be no different.
 
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Re: US military bases in Afghanistan after drawdown?

Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:31 pm

mxaxai wrote:
texl1649 wrote:
No Afghan government will be able to maintain control vs. the Taliban. They will be mortared/shelled and over-run. It will be sad to see their nascent AF destroyed but it is inevitable now.

It will not be destroyed. The equipment will simply be handed over to the new government formed by the Taliban, and the crews will be given the choice to join them or 'retire'.

After the forced reunification of Vietnam, the Vietnamese air force continued operating plenty of F-5, C-130 and UH-1 that had been given to the South by the US. Afghanistan will be no different.


I assume any US military class radar/equipment will first be downgraded to their equivalent civilian version(s) pre handover?
 
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Re: US military bases in Afghanistan after drawdown?

Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:24 pm

In the process of over-running Bagram pretty great odds a lot of equipment is lost. It happened to the Soviet era equipment as well. It’s basically target 1A for the Taliban to eliminate. Shindland is probably target 2. I doubt any A-29’s or Mi-8’s etc. survive, ultimately.

It’s not a political statement but the possibility a chieftain/government etc. could use these types of resources against a rival are basically what makes their destruction highly likely. Maybe a couple of Hercs won’t be hit, but that’s also doubtful as they are such huge targets. It will just fracture into the disaster it has been for millennia, or at least the past 500 years.
 
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Re: US military bases in Afghanistan after drawdown?

Thu Apr 22, 2021 2:34 am

I hope the Taliban Air Force keeps the boardwalk at Kandahar! It may not all be halal, but it's not bad at all
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Re: US military bases in Afghanistan after drawdown?

Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:52 pm

GalaxyFlyer wrote:
The Taliban AF will operate them eventually.


I imagine that would look something like this:

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Re: US military bases in Afghanistan after drawdown?

Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:06 pm

889091 wrote:
mxaxai wrote:
texl1649 wrote:
No Afghan government will be able to maintain control vs. the Taliban. They will be mortared/shelled and over-run. It will be sad to see their nascent AF destroyed but it is inevitable now.

It will not be destroyed. The equipment will simply be handed over to the new government formed by the Taliban, and the crews will be given the choice to join them or 'retire'.

After the forced reunification of Vietnam, the Vietnamese air force continued operating plenty of F-5, C-130 and UH-1 that had been given to the South by the US. Afghanistan will be no different.


I assume any US military class radar/equipment will first be downgraded to their equivalent civilian version(s) pre handover?


It’ll be removed
 
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Re: US military bases in Afghanistan after drawdown?

Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:47 pm

GalaxyFlyer wrote:
It’ll be removed

Anything owned by the current Afghan forces or used by civilian Afghan organisations will likely remain as it is. Stuff that is still owned by the foreign militaries will either be airlifted home or destroyed, depending on the value and cost to move it.
 
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Re: US military bases in Afghanistan after drawdown?

Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:07 pm

You know that scene on Lord of War where the old Soviet airlifter was picked apart piece-by-piece on the road? That's gonna be happening all over that country in a few months...
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