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Antonov rolls out the first fully domestic An-178 transport

Thu Dec 30, 2021 1:18 am

https://mil.in.ua/en/news/antonov-compl ... or-trials/

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-defens ... -kyiv.html

So far the only export customer has been Peru with only 1 airframe ordered. This aircraft occupies an interesting niche between the C-295 and the C-130. I wonder how big the market is for this type of transport. Two major changes that I've noticed about the modernized airframe are that the winglets have been removed and the cockpit avionics have been upgraded.

https://apostrophe.ua/news/society/2021 ... oto/254221

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Re: Antonov rolls out the first fully domestic An-178 transport

Thu Dec 30, 2021 6:02 am

It is a shame there is so many airlifters to choose from as the AN-178 is a great size in my opinion.

The AN-178 has nearly identical cargo volume and max payload as the C-130J. But it can only carry it a much shorter distance due to the lower MTOW. That makes it an excellent size for tactical work moving vehicles to the front line.

AN-178 can fly 15,000 kg of payload 1,385 km.
C-130J can fly 15,422 kg of payload 3,300km.

Cargo bays dimensions are always hard to compare as some give the width for the cargo ramp opening but are much wider inside. The AN-178 ramp is 2.73m wide compared to the 3.05m ramp of the C-130J but they are very similar max width inside due to the AN-178 using a circular cross section.

AN-178 cargo volume is listed as 125m2
C-130J cargo volume is listed as 128.9m2
 
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Re: Antonov rolls out the first fully domestic An-178 transport

Thu Dec 30, 2021 6:03 am

Ya gotta wonder what their possible production rate might be. If someone ordered 20 (or 50 or 100) how long might that take?
 
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Re: Antonov rolls out the first fully domestic An-178 transport

Thu Dec 30, 2021 5:42 pm

kitplane01 wrote:
Ya gotta wonder what their possible production rate might be. If someone ordered 20 (or 50 or 100) how long might that take?


They might arrive faster than Il-76. :biggrin:
 
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Re: Antonov rolls out the first fully domestic An-178 transport

Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:30 pm

Anyone have an idea where this has ended up since the invasion ?
 
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Re: Antonov rolls out the first fully domestic An-178 transport

Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:35 pm

zeke wrote:
Anyone have an idea where this has ended up since the invasion ?

Great question, one would have to assume that the entire program is likely shelved indefinitely.
 
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Re: Antonov rolls out the first fully domestic An-178 transport

Tue Mar 29, 2022 8:15 pm

I assume if the factory has been destroyed the project is dead. Ukraine will likely recieve second hand C-130's for their transport needs.
 
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Re: Antonov rolls out the first fully domestic An-178 transport

Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:54 pm

It sounds like it was, yes, destroyed.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 35108.html
 
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Re: Antonov rolls out the first fully domestic An-178 transport

Fri Apr 01, 2022 6:21 pm

Yeah that plant is now rubble. Sad.

https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1 ... CTceOYV7Qg
 
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Re: Antonov rolls out the first fully domestic An-178 transport

Fri Apr 01, 2022 7:16 pm

texl1649 wrote:
Yeah that plant is now rubble. Sad.

https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1 ... CTceOYV7Qg

That's Hostomel airport. The home base of Antonov airlines.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Hosto ... 30.2150743

The Antonov aircraft factory is at Sviatoshyn airport.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Svyat ... 30.3451381
 
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Re: Antonov rolls out the first fully domestic An-178 transport

Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:12 am

petertenthije wrote:
texl1649 wrote:
Yeah that plant is now rubble. Sad.

https://twitter.com/JimmySecUK/status/1 ... CTceOYV7Qg

That's Hostomel airport. The home base of Antonov airlines.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Hosto ... 30.2150743

The Antonov aircraft factory is at Sviatoshyn airport.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Svyat ... 30.3451381


Sviatoshyn airfield has also been damaged but the status of the aircraft stationed there is not mentionned. The factory seems to have been hit.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/antonov-aircraft-factory-in-kyiv-said-on-fire-after-russian-bombing/

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