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Re: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Fri Mar 26, 2021 8:10 pm

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Initial Italian Navy trials at sea earlier this month;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POyb4dEXDq0

Trials successfully completed.

https://theaviationist.com/2021/03/26/s ... 9yxHsbyd1Q
 
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Re: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:10 am

A bit of a cheerleader piece about production rate being de facto full now, but still some interesting bits. What I don’t see, and don’t understand why it’s not being prioritized, are the depot/maintenance system (Alice etc.) advances being proclaimed.

https://www.realcleardefense.com/articl ... 71690.html

Effective sourcing/quick repairs/logistics are the Achilles heal for the program imho, right now, holding up maintenance costs/down mission capable rates.
 
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Re: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:52 am

Good article discussing block 4, future lot buys, and, yes, logistics challenges the program still faces/is seemingly moving toward some fixes.

https://www.airforcemag.com/article/mak ... -the-f-35/

Ulmer said that the downward trend in F-35 unit costs will be hard to continue, given reduced quantities in Lots 15 to17, and the more advanced Block 4 configuration.

The F-35’s sustainment problems tend to boil down to one general issue: early on, the program set optimistic predictions for the availability of parts, depots, and trained maintenance personnel. Shortages of all three have contributed to reducing mission availability for units in garrison, because parts and technicians must be prioritized for deployed units.

The Government Accountability Office (GAO) pegged low mission capable rates to parts shortages in April 2019 and progress continues to be slow. With suppliers producing multiple versions of parts—not just for the A, B and C models, but also for different configurations of each—it has proven difficult to get enough spares. Adding to the complexity, available parts must be shared among the 16 partner countries of the F-35. The GAO faulted the U.S. military services for not having a comprehensive tally of the F-35 parts they owned and where they were. It reported that parts taken along for Marine Corps F-35 deployments sometimes proved incompatible with the planes that deployed.

Faster parts turnaround at the depots could help, but so far gains in aircraft availability have come because jets increasingly come in a common configuration, program officials reported.

Lockheed F-35 sustainability Vice President Ken Merchant said in February that parts availability is improving. Parts that were at a “fill rate” of 47 percent are now at 97 percent, he said, and things should continue to improve, as this is now just two years into a five-year, get-well plan.
 
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Re: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Tue May 04, 2021 9:37 am

Italy has deployed some F-35A to the Baltic Air Policing mission at Russia's border, being used in the QRA role. https://theaviationist.com/2021/04/30/i ... 5-estonia/
It’s the first time 5th generation aircraft take part in BAP mission.

On Apr. 30, 2021, four Italian Air Force F-35A Lightning II jets landed at Amari Air Base, Estonia, to take over the NATO’s BAP (Baltic Air Policing) mission. It’s the first time the Italian stealth jets deploy to Estonia (even though the Italian Eurofighter Typhoons operated there for BAP in 2018) and also the first time that 5th generation aircraft support NATO’s mission in the Baltic States.
 
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Re: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Tue May 04, 2021 10:04 am

Am I right in guessing that means Russian radar sites and airborne early warning trying hard to map out detection chances and tactics? Or is that a layman's understanding of Russia jumping on an opportunity?
 
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Re: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Tue May 04, 2021 10:08 am

CRJockey wrote:
Am I right in guessing that means Russian radar sites and airborne early warning trying hard to map out detection chances and tactics? Or is that a layman's understanding of Russia jumping on an opportunity?

I assume that they'll be flying with radar reflectors to improve visibility and hide the "true" F-35 radar signature. There's no need for secrecy on this mission.
 
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Re: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Tue May 04, 2021 10:17 am

mxaxai wrote:
CRJockey wrote:
Am I right in guessing that means Russian radar sites and airborne early warning trying hard to map out detection chances and tactics? Or is that a layman's understanding of Russia jumping on an opportunity?

I assume that they'll be flying with radar reflectors to improve visibility and hide the "true" F-35 radar signature. There's no need for secrecy on this mission.


Yeah, that makes a whole lot of sense. Thanks for pointing out the obvious to me! :-)
 
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Re: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Thu May 13, 2021 1:38 pm

USAF chief of staff’s plan for future fighter fleet does not include F-22s, with the F-35 as the cornerstone of only four different types.

https://theaviationgeekclub.com/usaf-wi ... taff-said/
 
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Re: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Thu May 20, 2021 12:19 am

Buckeyetech wrote:
USAF chief of staff’s plan for future fighter fleet does not include F-22s, with the F-35 as the cornerstone of only four different types.

https://theaviationgeekclub.com/usaf-wi ... taff-said/




Thats pretty incredible isn’t it ?


They plan to retire the pre-eminent air superiority fighter ?
 
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Re: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Thu May 20, 2021 1:39 am

Max Q wrote:
Buckeyetech wrote:
USAF chief of staff’s plan for future fighter fleet does not include F-22s, with the F-35 as the cornerstone of only four different types.

https://theaviationgeekclub.com/usaf-wi ... taff-said/




Thats pretty incredible isn’t it ?


They plan to retire the pre-eminent air superiority fighter ?


I don't think its going to happen until NGAD enters full-rate production. The F-35 is not a Raptor replacement, its more like the F-16 is to the F-15.
 
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Re: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:16 pm

Not sure if this has been posted in this thread, but ROK has a concept to build an aircraft carrier equipped with F-35s.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/4 ... L5NOcOc214
 
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Re: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:29 pm

Buckeyetech wrote:
Not sure if this has been posted in this thread, but ROK has a concept to build an aircraft carrier equipped with F-35s.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/4 ... L5NOcOc214


Non-sensical waste of money. They would be much better off just buying more F-35A's.
 
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F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Fri Jun 11, 2021 7:38 am

Quite interesting news (although completely expected) from Baltic See where 4 F-35s from ITAF are serving under the NATO air policing mission.

On May 14th an AN-12 was intercepted and some pictures were made available and were then reported by the aviation blog The Aviationist.

https://theaviationist.com/2021/06/05/p ... rcept-bap/

Later there was another interception, this time with a SU-30 involved as well.

Nice pictures and video here, from the same source:

https://theaviationist.com/2021/06/09/r ... itaf-f-35/

I’m now following fighter_bomber_ on Instagram, of course!
 
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Re: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:56 am

Nice find 777, I also noticed this in the sidebar;
https://theaviationist.com/2021/06/10/i ... ntelleria/

Here in the UK, any article about the F-35 is still, three years after they started doing it, full of below the line comments about the RN carriers with no aircraft.

747SPX, while the size of the ROK proposed carrier is a surprise, I think it is not about countering their neighbour from hell the DPRK, rather it is about the regional superpower bully China and their illegal activities aimed at turning a large swathe of the Pacific into their lake.
The same reason Japan is to put F-35B's on their carriers, the same reasons for the recent French deployment to the region and the upcoming group led by HMS Queen Elizabeth.
 
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Re: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:12 pm

GDB wrote:
Nice find 777, I also noticed this in the sidebar;
https://theaviationist.com/2021/06/10/i ... ntelleria/

Here in the UK, any article about the F-35 is still, three years after they started doing it, full of below the line comments about the RN carriers with no aircraft.

747SPX, while the size of the ROK proposed carrier is a surprise, I think it is not about countering their neighbour from hell the DPRK, rather it is about the regional superpower bully China and their illegal activities aimed at turning a large swathe of the Pacific into their lake.
The same reason Japan is to put F-35B's on their carriers, the same reasons for the recent French deployment to the region and the upcoming group led by HMS Queen Elizabeth.

I love when they call the Pantelleria’s runway “austere”!
 
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Re: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Thu Jul 01, 2021 6:07 pm

A bit of a controversial question.

Is there somewhere a serious discussion/summary/article about export F-35s having a "kill switch" installed so that the US can, well, prevent their use, if it wants to ?

Any information either way would be of interest.

Thanks
 
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Re: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Thu Jul 01, 2021 10:47 pm

I haven't seen any serious discussions on a specific kill switch.

But for most users the US has final say on things like upgrades to the avionics and can cut off things like maintenance. There was a big enough stoush when it came to light that all operation data was being sent back to LM in the US. To the point the US and LM had to put in an option to stop sending the data back.
 
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Re: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Fri Jul 02, 2021 1:44 am

Aesma wrote:
A bit of a controversial question.

Is there somewhere a serious discussion/summary/article about export F-35s having a "kill switch" installed so that the US can, well, prevent their use, if it wants to ?

Any information either way would be of interest.

Thanks

Was the alien report not enough for the tin hat brigade...? The US doesn't have a magical kill switch on any of their military hardware, to introduce such would be a massive cyber no no. Same way the French don't on the Rafale or their missiles and the Russians don't on their jets etc (you don't see the US owned flankers falling out of the sky because Putin flicked the switch...).
 
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Re: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Fri Jul 02, 2021 12:34 pm

A google search turns interesting results. For example India was assured that the US could disable Pakistani AMRAAMs : http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articl ... eport.html
 
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Re: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Fri Jul 02, 2021 8:21 pm

Aesma wrote:
A google search turns interesting results. For example India was assured that the US could disable Pakistani AMRAAMs : http://www.defense-aerospace.com/articl ... eport.html

Poor interpretation of a pretty clear statement.
 
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Re: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Wed Oct 06, 2021 4:19 pm

Overdue an update;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYPG1Q0XrPE

Do say (if you are a JMSDF officer) 'An important day for not only the Self Defence Force but also a commitment to our force modernization against emerging threats along with our closest allies, today represented by the US Marine Corps'.

Don't say ' Tora Tora Tora'!

(Sorry, couldn't resist!)
 
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Re: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Thu Oct 07, 2021 2:27 pm

They are increasing cooperation with their former enemy because some other nation decided to become the new Empire of Japan.
kind of ironic isn't it?
 
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Re: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Thu Oct 07, 2021 2:43 pm

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They are increasing cooperation with their former enemy because some other nation decided to become the new Empire of Japan.
kind of ironic isn't it?


Japan has been a formal US ally for 70 years. Japan's post WW2 Constitution (drawn up by the Allies, principally the US who occupied it after the surrender), allowed the retention of the Emperor but with a parliamentary democracy, with it's armed forces being for self defence only.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Self-Defense_Forces
 
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Re: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:41 pm

GDB wrote:
bajs11 wrote:
They are increasing cooperation with their former enemy because some other nation decided to become the new Empire of Japan.
kind of ironic isn't it?


Japan has been a formal US ally for 70 years. Japan's post WW2 Constitution (drawn up by the Allies, principally the US who occupied it after the surrender), allowed the retention of the Emperor but with a parliamentary democracy, with it's armed forces being for self defence only.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Self-Defense_Forces


bajs11 wrote:
because some other nation decided to become the new Empire of Japan.
kind of ironic isn't it?


Yes, that's what I was saying...

As a liberal democracy it allies itself with other liberal democracies like India, USA, Australia and UK against a certain powerful totalitarian regime which has more or less become the new Empire of Japan.
 
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Re: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Thu Oct 07, 2021 7:33 pm

bajs11 wrote:

Yes, that's what I was saying...

As a liberal democracy it allies itself with other liberal democracies like India, USA, Australia and UK against a certain powerful totalitarian regime which has more or less become the new Empire of Japan.


It was kind of stupid that we allowed it to arm with our wealth, with the connivance of our leadership, copying our weapons.
 
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Re: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:53 am

https://news.yahoo.co.jp/byline/obiekt/ ... 4-00264727
Leader of Japan's opposition party question JSDF's decision to purchase F-35, claim they're spending money buying outdated aircraft, and need to review their budget.
 
 
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Re: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Mon Oct 25, 2021 10:22 pm

c933103 wrote:
https://news.yahoo.co.jp/byline/obiekt/20211024-00264727
Leader of Japan's opposition party question JSDF's decision to purchase F-35, claim they're spending money buying outdated aircraft, and need to review their budget.


I wouldn't read much into that. Sounds like pretty normal politiking. For all its failures, the F-35 is anything but out of date. It is also one of the first of a new paradigm of aircraft where simplifying ongoing upgrades is just as important as any individual system. The buzzword being 'open-architecture'
 
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Re: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Mon Dec 13, 2021 11:39 pm

Infrastructure for the next major USAF F-35 deployment;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZHl8Xjcxeg
 
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Re: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Tue Dec 14, 2021 8:22 pm

I see the UAE is tabling it's F-35 buy https://www.reuters.com/business/aerosp ... 021-12-14/
 
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Re: F-35 News and Discussion Thread - 2021

Wed Dec 15, 2021 2:53 pm

Wait 24 hrs and things changes . . .

bt
 
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Re: Lockheed Martin F-35 News, Production and Delivery Thread - 2022

Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:51 pm

A ROKAF F-35A belly landed Seosan air base at January 4th 2022 after a complete systems failure.
All systems malfunctioned except flight controls and the engine. Unable to lower the landing gear, the pilot chose to land with the gear up instead of ditching the aircraft.
The incident prompted ROKAF to ground its F-35A fleet.

See : https://aviationweek.com/defense-space/ ... t-grounded?
 
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Re: Lockheed Martin F-35 News, Production and Delivery Thread - 2022

Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:28 pm

According some German news the F35 is now in the run for the Tornado replacement.
 
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Re: Lockheed Martin F-35 News, Production and Delivery Thread - 2022

Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:59 pm

747classic wrote:
A ROKAF F-35A belly landed Seosan air base at January 4th 2022 after a complete systems failure.
All systems malfunctioned except flight controls and the engine. Unable to lower the landing gear, the pilot chose to land with the gear up instead of ditching the aircraft.
The incident prompted ROKAF to ground its F-35A fleet.

See : https://aviationweek.com/defense-space/ ... t-grounded?


Good choice on the pilot to save a national asset. A bit of sanding and a new coat of paint is surely cheaper than an ocean salvage operation and restoration.
 
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Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:06 pm

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According some German news the F35 is now in the run for the Tornado replacement.

This would make complete sense considering the amount of allies already using the same type and the great commonality that may came out of it (training, ops, maintenance, deployment, etc).
 
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Re: Lockheed Martin F-35 News, Production and Delivery Thread - 2022

Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:38 am

F-35C landing mishap on the USS Carl Vinson while underway in the SCS. No deaths.

No statement from the US Navy on the status/location of the aircraft.

https://news.usni.org/2022/01/24/f-35-l ... -china-sea
 
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Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:19 pm

Confirmed to have fell off the carrier deck into the South China Sea, oh boy.

https://news.usni.org/2022/01/25/crashe ... -china-sea
 
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Re: Lockheed Martin F-35 News, Production and Delivery Thread - 2022

Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:48 pm

Boy the Navy will be scrambling to recover that frame before the Chinese find it
 
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Tue Feb 15, 2022 1:40 am

Singapore gives update on F-35 plans:
- First 4 F35Bs to arrive a 'around 2026' and to be stationed in the US for evaluation. Deployment location is Ebbing Air National Guard Base in Fort Smith, Arkansas.
- While the F35s are planned to replace the F-16 fleet, the F-16 fleet is currently being upgraded and planned to remain in service for 'at least another decade'

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapo ... ef-2496586
 
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Re: Lockheed Martin F-35 News, Production and Delivery Thread - 2022

Mon Mar 14, 2022 3:28 pm

Italy procures AIM-9X blk. II for F-35, foregoing IRIS-T integration.

Italian F-35s Will Get AIM-9X Block II Air-To-Air Missiles
Italy already operates two types of short-range air-to-air missiles: the AIM-9L (for Tornado, AMX and AV-8B+) and the IRIS-T (for the Eurofighter Typhoon). However neither of those could be used with the 5th gen aircraft. This left the Italian F-35s with only one air-to-air weapon, the AIM-120, available for the Quick Reaction Alert (QRA) duty. [...]

The signing of the LOA will allow Italy to equip its aircraft with both the AIM-120 in the internal weapon bays and the AIM-9X under the wingtips’ rails, like other international F-35 users. Italy is not the only user who had to resort to this solution, with a very similar situation happening also to Norway some years ago. Norway, like Italy, used the IRIS-T on its recently retired F-16s, however in 2015 a deal to acquire the AIM-9X was signed as the European missile was not available for the F-35.

The IRIS-T was initially scheduled for integration on the F-35, with Norway sponsoring an initial study preparatory for the works, but for unknown reason the integration did not go ahead. A future integration might still be on the table however, as Greece is another IRIS-T user that will receive F-35s. Moreover, Germany and Spain, two other IRIS-T users, are still reportedly interested in the acquisition of the F-35, taking the total to five nations possibly interested in the continuation of the integration of the IRIS-T on the 5th gen. aircraft.

https://theaviationist.com/2022/02/04/i ... -missiles/

I realize that this has been known for some time but still, I'm surprised how much trouble the F-35 is having with IR missile integration. No IRIS-T or legacy AIM-9, and ASRAAM and new AIM-9X only on the wingtip pylons instead of the internal bay.
 
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Re: Lockheed Martin F-35 News, Production and Delivery Thread - 2022

Mon Mar 14, 2022 4:13 pm

mxaxai wrote:
Italy procures AIM-9X blk. II for F-35, foregoing IRIS-T integration.

Italian F-35s Will Get AIM-9X Block II Air-To-Air Missiles
Italy already operates two types of short-range air-to-air missiles: the AIM-9L (for Tornado, AMX and AV-8B+) and the IRIS-T (for the Eurofighter Typhoon). However neither of those could be used with the 5th gen aircraft. This left the Italian F-35s with only one air-to-air weapon, the AIM-120, available for the Quick Reaction Alert (QRA) duty. [...]

The signing of the LOA will allow Italy to equip its aircraft with both the AIM-120 in the internal weapon bays and the AIM-9X under the wingtips’ rails, like other international F-35 users. Italy is not the only user who had to resort to this solution, with a very similar situation happening also to Norway some years ago. Norway, like Italy, used the IRIS-T on its recently retired F-16s, however in 2015 a deal to acquire the AIM-9X was signed as the European missile was not available for the F-35.

The IRIS-T was initially scheduled for integration on the F-35, with Norway sponsoring an initial study preparatory for the works, but for unknown reason the integration did not go ahead. A future integration might still be on the table however, as Greece is another IRIS-T user that will receive F-35s. Moreover, Germany and Spain, two other IRIS-T users, are still reportedly interested in the acquisition of the F-35, taking the total to five nations possibly interested in the continuation of the integration of the IRIS-T on the 5th gen. aircraft.

https://theaviationist.com/2022/02/04/i ... -missiles/

I realize that this has been known for some time but still, I'm surprised how much trouble the F-35 is having with IR missile integration. No IRIS-T or legacy AIM-9, and ASRAAM and new AIM-9X only on the wingtip pylons instead of the internal bay.

It's not just an IR thing, I've heard everything from the launcher system not sufficiently protecting the aircraft from the rocket motors exhaust (unlike the "punch out" system on the F-22) to no capability of allowing the seeker to acquire before launch. The USAF doesn't seem to be too interested in the lock-on after launch / LOAL capabilities of the 9X at the moment.

Realistically, something is wrong if you're going short-range in a 5th gen stealth aircraft anyways.
 
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Re: Lockheed Martin F-35 News, Production and Delivery Thread - 2022

Tue Mar 15, 2022 10:40 am

as Greece is another IRIS-T user that will receive F-35s.

When did Greece order the F-35?
didnt they recently purchase a bunch of Rafael?
 
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Re: Lockheed Martin F-35 News, Production and Delivery Thread - 2022

Tue Mar 15, 2022 8:54 pm

bajs11 wrote:
as Greece is another IRIS-T user that will receive F-35s.

When did Greece order the F-35?
didnt they recently purchase a bunch of Rafael?

Not yet but they have been very interested for the longest time. It's a question of when, not if, though I suppose some journalists are getting ahead of themselves.
Greece progresses F-35 procurement plans

“Let me start with the most important point, which is, Greece will be part of the F-35 programme. I think that's clearly understood by the government, by the Hellenic Air Force, but also by the US government. You've heard expressions to that effect not just from me but from senior officials of the State Department,” Ambassador Pyatt said.

“We will have a team from the US Air Force, from the F-35 programme office, coming to Athens next month precisely to provide the Greek government with informational briefings on the requirements for moving forward with the F-35 programme,” he added.

https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news ... ment-plans
 
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Re: Lockheed Martin F-35 News, Production and Delivery Thread - 2022

Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:57 am

German to buy F-35


BERLIN, March 14 (Reuters) - Germany will buy 35 U.S. F-35 fighter jets to replace its ageing Tornado, it said on Monday, announcing a first big defence deal since Chancellor Olaf Scholz pledged a 100-billion-euro upgrade to the military in response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

The move appeared to be part of a tectonic shift in German security policy, including a pledge to reach NATO's 2% target for defence spending, after years of accusations that Germany was too dovish towards Moscow in compensation for its Nazi past. read more

"After looking thoroughly into all available options, I decided to initiate the purchase of F-35 aircraft as replacement for the Tornado in the role of nuclear sharing," Defence Minister Christine Lambrecht said in a statement.


https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ge ... 022-03-14/
 
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Re: Lockheed Martin F-35 News, Production and Delivery Thread - 2022

Fri Mar 25, 2022 8:44 am

This question came to my mind on the Swiss F35 thread:

What I never understood is why there was no assembly line at BAE SYSTEMS. Aren't they one of the first partners to jump on board the project (after originally being part of the competing McD bid iirc)?
Or is it because they already manufacture the aft fuselage and tails?
 
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Wed Apr 06, 2022 1:40 pm

It seems like F35 production is the biggest recipient of the unrest caused by the Ukrainian war. Several countries, who were considering "good enough" replacement fighters, because "they'll never be actually used" are now going with the F35. Canada, Finland and Switzerland come to mind. I'm not sure of the exact timeline for Finland and Switzerland, but the saber rattling by Russia was going on for a few months.
 
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Re: Lockheed Martin F-35 News, Production and Delivery Thread - 2022

Wed Jun 01, 2022 10:44 am

The Netherlands has increased their order for F-35s by six. The total will now be 52, of which I believe 26 have been delivered.

Dutch source:
https://nos.nl/artikel/2431022-ollongre ... ude-oorlog
 
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Re: Lockheed Martin F-35 News, Production and Delivery Thread - 2022

Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:47 pm

Lockheed Martin has delivered a further two F-35A Lightning II aircraft to the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF), taking the total size of the fleet to 50.

https://www.defenceconnect.com.au/strik ... -a-century

I'm not 100% sure but i think that makes the RAAF the biggest user of F35 outside the US, even if only for a short while

Here to hoping the ALP continue the expansion to 100 once this order is filled.

Australia really needs to increase the size of the RAAF ACF by at least 50% even if they get 100 F35

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