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Adam84
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Windows XP

Tue Oct 30, 2001 9:30 am

All I have to say is WOW. I recently upgraded from Windows ME (wont be missed) and the difference between the two is night and day.

Microsoft really has something here. Its the perfect combination. The stability of a server/professional OS and the compatibility, ease of use of a home OS.

Windows XP can actually manage the resources which Windows ME sucked at. I am so happy to have rid myself of the virus called Windows ME. Im sure Microsoft is hoping people will forget it real quick.
 
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RE: Windows XP

Tue Oct 30, 2001 9:57 am

Can someone just name some problems with ME that maybe i have failed to notice or that just don't occur with me? (I use ME).

I saw XP and it looks really nice.


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Adam84
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RE: Windows XP

Tue Oct 30, 2001 10:22 am

I am pretty sure it was ME that was causing all my problems.

Programs the ME just didnt like:
Adobe Acrobat didnt work with ME, Real Player wouldnt work with ME 98% of the time, IExplorer and ME had issues.

Other issues:
Computer couldnt standby or hibernate because it would freeze up. A normal day (2 hrs) of using ME would consist of restarting about 2 times and dealing with about 4 or 5 blue screens.

The computer didnt just get into this from me filling the hard drive up with junk. It acted this way since I first took it out of the box.

Anyways, XP is wonderful on the performance, stability, features list. But I am having trouble adapting to the new menus.




 
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RE: Windows XP

Tue Oct 30, 2001 11:23 am

I have exactly the same problems as Adam84 did when using ME. What's XP selling for? I heard from a friend that it was $200-300, and I am not sure if I want to shell out that much cash.
 
Adam84
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RE: Windows XP

Tue Oct 30, 2001 11:42 am

It $99 for the upgrade from ME.
 
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RE: Windows XP

Tue Oct 30, 2001 1:02 pm

Yeah, Windows Millenium is a POS. I got all those problems, too, it seems like I restart the darn thing 50 times a day. Tons of blue screens and lockups. Plus games never work and a lot of programs don't. I want to upgrade to XP.
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RE: Windows XP

Tue Oct 30, 2001 2:01 pm

What version of XP are you running?
(btw it isnt a server class OS so dont call it that)

I've had XP Professional corporate edition in place for about 2 and a half months now and yes it is nice  Smile

I don't see what the problem is with ME alot of people bitch about. Chances are (don't take this personally) you didn't implement it properly.
 
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RE: Windows XP

Tue Oct 30, 2001 4:52 pm

I don't have XP. However I know it's wonderful. I will definately be getting it and I don't care what anyone says about MS. They have got a great product and credit is needed where due!
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RE: Windows XP

Tue Oct 30, 2001 5:13 pm

I hear XP has a hardware lock on it. You can't install on to another machine once you've installed it on one and registered it. It sends your computer information to Microsoft and if you try to register it on a different computer or one with a different hardware signature it won't work. This is what I've heard, but I don't know if it's true. Anybody know for sure?

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VonRichtofen

Tue Oct 30, 2001 5:45 pm

Im pretty sure that occurs with ALL versions except corporate which is different from professional. I just happen to have corporate  Smokin cool
 
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RE: Windows XP

Tue Oct 30, 2001 6:33 pm

VonRicheofen,

What you heard is true, and you can run into the same problem if you do a major hardware upgrade on your computer. And apparently if you have to reinstall XP on the same computer too many times (more than 3?)

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RE: Windows XP

Tue Oct 30, 2001 8:29 pm

I read about the inability to install Windows XP on different computers in some computer magazine ("PC World" I'm thinking). IIRC, the article said (LONG story short) that there is a 30 day time limit on your "lockout" period. So after that time, the info is "erased" from Microsoft HQ, and you're able to install on another computer.

The article I read said that XP is "nice to have, but not necessary to have...", but it did rave about the stable platform.

I must say that I haven't had many problems at all with Windows ME either. I guess it depends on how much junk is loaded on your computer. It's very rare that my computer "freezes up."

Now AOL is a different story altogether....!

 
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RE: Windows XP

Tue Oct 30, 2001 9:20 pm

I recently reformatted my hard drive, and reinstalled everything from scratch on Windows ME, and it still crashed constantly. 1 out of 3 boots don't work out, and the system often crashes.

I'm looking forward to XP.

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RE: Windows XP

Tue Oct 30, 2001 9:43 pm

What information is sent to Microsoft cannot be used to determine your hardware configuration.
It is a key that is generated by the installer based on your hardware, and then encrypted using a non-reversible algorithm.
Different configurations can in theory produce the same key, the same config will always produce that particular key.
It is not possible to reverse engineer the key by checking all possible combinations of hardware components for several reasons:

1) the number of possible configurations is too large

2) things like the network card MAC address or harddisk serial number are used, and those are unique not just for a type of device but to that individual device.

The only thing Microsoft could track is when you changed your hardware, not what you changed or what it was originally.
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RE: Windows XP

Tue Oct 30, 2001 11:54 pm

If you already use Win2k, I wouldn't waste time with XP. It's slower and offers nothing special to make it worth-while.  Pissed
 
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RE: Windows XP

Wed Oct 31, 2001 2:12 am

Actually, if you have these minimum hardware requirements:

1. Celeron "A" 300 MHz CPU

2. 256 MB of RAM

3. 8.4 GB hard drive on ATA-33 or faster interface

4. AGP graphics card with at least 8 MB of RAM

5. 17" (CRT) monitor

Windows XP Home Edition will run quite well.

It's definitely worth it because Windows XP--given that it uses the same OS kernel technology pioneered by Windows 2000 Professional--has vastly improved memory stability given that most every app runs in its own protected memory space. This means if the app suddenly crashes closing the offending app will not have effect on memory resources.
 
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Adam84

Wed Oct 31, 2001 2:54 am

>>Anyways, XP is wonderful on the performance,
>>stability, features list. But I am having trouble
>>adapting to the new menus.

I believe you can revert to the old ("Classic") Windows interface, if you should so choose. I don't know how to do this since I don't have XP yet.

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RE: Adam84

Wed Oct 31, 2001 6:26 am

Kdca4life:
Bullshit: turn windows smoothing off and XP is at least equal to 2k.

RayChuang:
If I have a 15" monitor does that mean my computer isnt powerful enough?
 
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RE: Windows XP

Wed Oct 31, 2001 6:37 am

Yeah, what others said.

If you have 95/98/ME, XP is definitely worth the upgrade.

But if you have W2K, personally I think there is no compelling reason to do so.

I use Windows 2K at home, and therefore, already experience the stability that is XP's biggest selling point. Plus, I already have (or don't need) most of XP's features like CD burning, etc. and its eye candy.

Also, if you are paranoid of the "product activation", the MSDN (developer) version of XP does not have that crap, thankfully.
 
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RE: Windows XP

Wed Oct 31, 2001 1:15 pm

I got the Home edition upgrade. The thing I love about it is that it is based off NT/2000, so it is extremely stable.

I have found one flaw though. I cant use my shortcut keys on my keyboard and Dell has not come out with any drivers for XP yet.

But 3 days now and not a single crash, blue screen or "low resouces" message.


 
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RE: Windows XP

Wed Oct 31, 2001 1:25 pm

My Honeywell Eurobard set itself up under XP.

my old 98se machine I had going for exactly 4 weeks without a reboot in the end I turned it off so i could sleep next to it (fans/hdds are noisy)

98se box:

Asus VX'97 mobo
Intel P166MMX
64Mb RAM
4Gb IBM SCSI hdd
Adaptec SCSI controller
Asus video card
Creative SB32
Intel 10/100 managment adaptor (bootable)

as you can see its an old machine and 98se runs perfect, im about to install workstation 4 with SP6 on it or E-Smith
 
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XP For Breakfast

Thu Nov 01, 2001 4:18 pm

Im going to a XP brecky in a few weeks at the Sheraton ner ne ner ner. Vendors always give away heaps of cool stuff  Smile
 
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RE: Windows XP

Thu Nov 01, 2001 5:37 pm

Windows Me! works fine with me. I have never experienced any major problems with my system.

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RE: Windows XP

Thu Nov 01, 2001 7:23 pm

I saw a bootleg copy of XP that was allready making the rounds of the dorms where my sister live.

Apparently they wheren't having too much trouble with any sort of lockout problems.

In case anybody was wondering where to get a hold of these guys, to fing out what they know about it, There where three guys with the disk. One was dressed up as Pooh Bear, another was dressed up as Tiger and the third was dressed nomally so I guess he was Christopher Robin. Laugh out loud

I wouldn't have figured that they would be involved with copyright infringement.
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RE: Windows XP

Thu Nov 01, 2001 7:31 pm

I have a question:

My Dell notebook is a P3 450mhz with 128MB ram.

I'm currently running Windows 98 SE.

If I upgrade to Win XP Pro, what will the performance be like compared to my current system?

Someone please help!
 
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RE: Windows XP

Thu Nov 01, 2001 9:02 pm

I heard from somebody that if you use XP (Windows), your computer will be XP (consider it as a smiley).
 
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XP Is Awsome Get It Now

Thu Nov 01, 2001 9:42 pm

i have Xp and it is absolutely incredible if u make a mistake and accidently install a driver that screws up the computer it allows u too litteraly go back in time and put the hard drive in the state it was in before.
So i think that microsoft has made the o[perating system that wuill not be taken over for a long time

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What Diff Between Home And Pro?

Thu Nov 01, 2001 10:32 pm

What are the substantive differences between the "home" edition and the "professional"?
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cosync
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RE: What Diff Between Home And Pro?

Thu Nov 01, 2001 10:38 pm

well scuttler the diffrence is just the ammount of programs like i have the proffesional one and it has all the buisnes tools and all the big important things and the home one is just crap and ha s shit all so get pro

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RE: Windows XP

Thu Nov 01, 2001 10:44 pm

Oh. Now I understand.
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RE: Windows XP

Thu Nov 01, 2001 10:57 pm

I'll be using Windows 2000 Professional until at least next year. I'm not that impressed with XP so far.


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RE: Windows XP

Fri Nov 02, 2001 2:10 pm

FYI, Windows Me! also has the back in time function. It regularly takes snapshots of your computer and if it has a problem, you can go back in time when the computer was OK.

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