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Matt D
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Ford Vs. Chevy

Thu Nov 15, 2001 11:41 pm

There seems to be an intense rivalry between drivers of Chevy trucks and Ford trucks. Personally, I think they're both garbage of equal caliber, so it doesn't matter to me. But fans of Fords swear by them, and would spit on a Chevy. And the folks that swear by Chevy's would spit on a Ford.

Can someone inform me on the pluses and the minuses of each?
 
JetService
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RE: Ford Vs. Chevy

Fri Nov 16, 2001 12:05 am

Matt, why do you think they are garbage? Did you have major problems with one of them recently? I'm curious, because several product testing sessions (bias or not) consistantly rank both among the best in the world in the truck department.

To address your post, I suspect the rivalry is one of those classic rivalries that will never change regardless of how the product changes. Just like PC/Mac, Coke/Pepsi. It is a self-driven rivalry where product loyalty comes first.

JS (Chevy/Mac/Pepsi)
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Starship
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RE: Ford Vs. Chevy

Fri Nov 16, 2001 4:04 am

The Ford/Chevy thing has been going on for as long as I can remember and applied to cars long before it ever applied to trucks. I was brought up as a Chevy supporter and then did something terrible and bought a Ford. I had it for a mere three months and traded it in on a Volkswagen Passat. It wasn't a day too soon either.
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Superfly
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RE: Ford Vs. Chevy

Fri Nov 16, 2001 4:23 am

Both are well made trucks. I have a loyalty to Ford. I like the Dodge trucks better than the GM/Chevy trucks. It come down to looks I guess. I don't like the new F-150 bodystyle as much as the older one. I believe Ford still makes the most powerful gas truck engines and Dodge makes the best diesel engines. It's all a matter of taste.
My roomate just bought a brand new Chevy Silvarado 1500. That thing is so gutless and felt like an oversized Toyota. No features and no power at all.

I have no need for a truck and would never buy one to fit in. But if I did, I'd get these:

Full size
Ford F-350 crew cab. 4x4, 7.3 diesel engine.


or

Small truck
1992-96 Dodge Dakota 4x4, 5.2L V8.

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Whistler
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RE: Ford Vs. Chevy

Fri Nov 16, 2001 5:47 am

I like dodge trucks too, the Ram and Dakota are really nice. I also like some of the Toyota and Nissan trucks.

GM=shyte in all shapes and sizes, unless of course its a Caprice Big grin
 
DC10Tony
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RE: Ford Vs. Chevy

Fri Nov 16, 2001 5:52 am

Superfly-

Dodge doesn't make a diesel, they use the Cummins ISB 5.9L, for the record, that is the most powerful engine in a truck right now. Ford uses Navistar's t444E which they call the "Powerstroke" and Isuzu makes Chevy's "Duramax". Chevy used to make their own diesel (6.5L) and I think they had a little help from Detroit Diesel, but it really sucked and they went with a subcontractor to do 100% of the work this time, which was a good move.

Matt D-

Dude shut your damn hole, this is a topic I can see you know nothing about. You said you drive a Del Sol right? That's a far cry from a truck and I'm sure you have no experience driving one either.

I'm partial to Dodge because my dad owns one and it has superior quality to Ford and Chevy and pulls like a train, but I can suck in my pride about it. Just because you might've seen a Ford or Chevy with its hood up on the freeway you deem them junk. Or did you see some dirty person who probably just got off the job in one and assume that brand is beneath you?

Either way, I'm sure you'll accumulate some info via the internet, come back here and write like 5 pages about something you'll still know nothing about, it takes experience, get some.
 
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RE: Ford Vs. Chevy

Fri Nov 16, 2001 5:54 am

When I was a little kid I dreamed of having a big red GMC truck to drive to the airport and back!  Smile
I like both
 
flyguy1
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RE: Ford Vs. Chevy

Fri Nov 16, 2001 5:58 am

I dont know much about their trucks, but Ford, and Chevy cars, are not worth the time or money.
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Superfly
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RE: Ford Vs. Chevy

Fri Nov 16, 2001 5:59 am

DC10Tony:
Your right about Cummins engines in the Dodge trucks.
Are you sure about the Dodge being superior to Ford?
I don't know much about there trucks, but there cars can't hold a candle to Fords.
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JetService
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RE: Ford Vs. Chevy

Fri Nov 16, 2001 6:00 am

You don't know much about cars, either Big grin
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DC10Tony
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RE: Ford Vs. Chevy

Fri Nov 16, 2001 6:18 am

Superfly-

I'm not a big fan of Dodge cars, I think Ford and GM make a better car, but from experience, Dodge makes the BEST trucks.

Ford and GM use some car engines for their trucks (4.6L, 4.8 and 5.3--derived from the Corvette block), Dodge truck engines can't be found in cars (at least anymore), and they were designed to be truck engines because they've got truck cams and such...

As far as Dodge being more powerful than Ford, it all depends on which model. Ford and Dodge 3/4-tons both offer 8,800 pounds of GVW standard, while Chevy offer 9,200 pounds max for their 3/4-ton.

Right now Dodge offers the most GVWR for a 1/2-ton which is 6,650 pounds and Ford has 6,600 and Chevy is like 6,550 I believe, subtract the GVWR from the weight of thre truck and the number you get is the maximum weight the truck itself is permitted to carry (it can be exceeded a little though).

Dodge trucks are also the heaviest. This comes in handy when you're towing because if you're towing a big trailer with a lighter truck, that trailer's gonna treat your truck like it's its bitch.

Any other questions, let me know anyone.



 
Whistler
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RE: Ford Vs. Chevy

Fri Nov 16, 2001 6:21 am

"I dont know much about their trucks, but Ford, and Chevy cars, are not worth the time or money."

I have a GM car (not a Chevy though), and I would totally agree with that!  Smile
 
Superfly
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RE: Ford Vs. Chevy

Fri Nov 16, 2001 6:29 am

DC10Tony:
Dodge is it then!  Big thumbs up
That was a good observation with the car engine comparison.
I think that it is criminal to put a 4.6 in a full size truck. GM is even worse with it's V6 in a full-size truck.
The triton V10 is a good replacement for the 460cu" engine.
I guess it's safe to say that Chevy trucks are inferior to Dodge and Ford.
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IrishFlyer
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RE: Ford Vs. Chevy

Fri Nov 16, 2001 6:38 am

The Ford. VS Chevy Rivalry has been around a long time. Its always been a favorite rivalry of mine because both are evenly matched. I prefer Chevy, However Ford makes some damn good vehicles.

Dodge is really good, Especially their trucks.

~IrishFlyer~
 
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RE: Ford Vs. Chevy

Fri Nov 16, 2001 6:49 am

The biggest thing I ever drove before my bus driving days was a U-Haul based on the F-350 (treee - fiddy!!) with a Triton V-10. It was quite powerful
 
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RE: Ford Vs. Chevy

Fri Nov 16, 2001 6:53 am

In trucks and SUV's, they both aren't bad, I prefer GMC/Chevy, but in cars I don't care for neither of the two companies or their cars except for the fast cars like Camaro, Corvette, and Impala.
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DC10Tony
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RE: Ford Vs. Chevy

Fri Nov 16, 2001 7:14 am

Superfly-

A response to your 4.6L comment, I sort of agree. My uncle has a '01 Expedition 4x4 with that engine and it seems like it's just adequate enough for that truck, but I wouldn't put over 3,000 pounds behind it.

I've heard Ford guys say they wish the 460 was still being made. I don't know if that means the 6.8L sucks, but I've heard that about the 7.5L a lot. I've also heard people saying Ford would make the C6 tranny again, which was also found in old town cars of the 70's.

That Chevy V6 you're talking about, my brother has that 4.3L in his Sonoma x-cab 4x2 and that engine seems adequate for his truck, biggest thing I'd tow with it would be a bass boat. It must make the Silverados seem underpowered. I'd hate to see how the 3.9L V6 feel in a Ram, BIG truck small engine, not a good combo.
 
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RE: Ford Vs. Chevy

Fri Nov 16, 2001 7:18 am

We have a Ford Escort 1.4 Big grin and it's nice to drive, perhaps a little slow in acceleration. Very attractive car since it's been stolen twice.

Staffan  Big thumbs up
 
Superfly
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RE: Ford Vs. Chevy

Fri Nov 16, 2001 7:20 am

Oh yes!
The 460cu" and C6 tranny is the best thing ever made!  Big thumbs up
Mines has 237,000 miles on it and it can still tear up these hills here in San Francisco.
You can get those out of any Ford/Mercury/Lincoln at the wrecking yard for $45 and it will work! They are in-destructable!
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RE: Ford Vs. Chevy

Fri Nov 16, 2001 11:59 am

Nearly all my clients are in the construction business, and here's how it all shakes out there:

1. The boss drives a loaded Suburban or Escalade (occasional Navigator);

2. The "pretty boys" (these'd be the ones who buy trucks, but would not dream of letting any tacky ol' toos or materials touch the pickup bed) buy Dodge Ram trucks;

3. The guys who have to haul the goods drive a Ford 350 with the Power Stroke, a gooseneck hitch and a big hand-pumped tank of diesel in the back.
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RE: Ford Vs. Chevy

Fri Nov 16, 2001 12:08 pm

As I drive a Ford F-150 with the 351M and C6 that has a 3/4 ton rear end under it and 375000 miles, I might be a touch biased. It is uglier than Madonna but I've carried 3000 lbs in it and it starts every morning. What else matters? Except, of course, the 14 MPG it gets.
I'll keep the truck and buy a throw away car asa soon as possible. I was kind of thinking the Ford ZX2. Is that the correct model? The new Escort. Unless of course Superfly buys me that new T-Bird for my birthday.
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RE: Ford Vs. Chevy

Fri Nov 16, 2001 12:34 pm

The best pickup there is GMC Sierra 3500HD hands down wether you guys like it orn not it kills Ford, and Dodge. Sidenote-(Foreign Pickups bwahaha, what a joke!)
 
DeltaRNOmd-80
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RE: Ford Vs. Chevy

Fri Nov 16, 2001 1:39 pm

Fords all the way. My uncle pulls a combi-bass boat from ATL to JAX at least twice a year with a ford ranger supercab, its probably the smallest truck pulling one of the bigger boats when its at the dock. anyways I am biased to Fords anyway, they are my favorite auto company.

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