TWAL1011
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RE: Honda S2000

Wed Oct 23, 2002 12:17 pm

So do I, FLY.

I'm working on it.  Big thumbs up
 
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LOT

Wed Oct 23, 2002 12:19 pm

So it kinda looks like the Z3, But will spank the shit outta one. A true "Rice Burner" would be a SLOW 4 or 6 cylinder car that is not made to be tast that is souped up to the max like a Dodge Neon, Honda Civic, Mitsishitty Eclipse, Toyota Celica, and I even see some riced out fake Z28's & 5.0's.

MCO-ATL
 
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RE: Honda S2000

Wed Oct 23, 2002 12:20 pm

That photo above is rice Dan. That is sad rice....

And it is a 4 cylinder which adds onto the crappiness  Smile
 
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LOT

Wed Oct 23, 2002 12:25 pm

Ok, Call it what you want. Call mine rice but after I put a cold air intake, supercharger, and a turbo kit on it i'll be leaving a lot of american cars in the dust

MCO-ATL
 
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RE: Honda S2000

Wed Oct 23, 2002 12:29 pm

Oh come on LOT763, who needs a stupid Camaro or Corvette when you can drive a powerful 4-cylinder Honda?

I mean, all you need is a big wing, a bodykit, Altezza lights, and a big coffee can strapped onto your exhaust system so your car farts down the road................and you will easily run 10s in the quarter mile, smoking every American V8 you see.



You need to come to your senses. Besides, everyone who drives a GM or Ford Muscle car is a mullet, right?

*soaked with sarcasm*


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TWAL1011
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RE: Honda S2000

Wed Oct 23, 2002 12:31 pm

Exactly, MCO-ATL.

The only ricer that I have any real respect for is the Supra...

If you've got the bandwidth, check out these vids...

http://www.nazman.stangnet.com/Video/junsupra_short1.mpeg

and for some real action (big file)

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid34/pb78ed630a0ee0f657617d3be0cb95c71/fd3658a9.mpg
 
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RE: Honda S2000

Wed Oct 23, 2002 12:32 pm

Here's some pics of the S2000










(photos from Motorcities)

Note the digital speedometer and tachometer and the button that starts the engine.
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NWA742
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RE: Honda S2000

Wed Oct 23, 2002 12:40 pm

Sorry BH346, but that's it for $35K? That looks like a cheap POS.

For LESS than that, I would rather have a car that:

A. Is quite faster
B. Looks much better
C. Is true muscle - V8
D. Is AMERICAN

An example of the above would be:



and







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RE: Honda S2000

Wed Oct 23, 2002 12:48 pm

Powered By Honda



Honda would make some killer blenders.


Imagine the margaritas you could make with that baby!  Laugh out loud


Here is your S2000. Big grin
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RE: Honda S2000

Wed Oct 23, 2002 1:10 pm

The Camaro and the Mustang are fine cars I wouldn't mind having, but I certainly wouldn't call the S2000 a "cheap POS". The Camaro and the Mustang are not really similar to the S2000. The first two are muscle cars which are usually big, V-8 powered. The S2000 is a roadster. It's a small and agile car. Cars like the Z3 and the Miata would fit better in the S2000's category. The S2000's fuel economy stands out among sports cars at 20/26 mpg and it has a LEV rating for emissions(Low Emission Vehicle). The engine isn't a V-8, but it is good for what it has to work with.
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RE: Honda S2000

Wed Oct 23, 2002 1:22 pm


Is that you? Big grin
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RE: Honda S2000

Wed Oct 23, 2002 1:30 pm

No.




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RE: Honda S2000

Wed Oct 23, 2002 2:28 pm

Why are you guys all so hell bent on Rustangs? They're POS. Grab an M3, S4, or something other then a RUSTANG. They are everyone, you see them all over the road.

TB
 
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RE: Honda S2000

Wed Oct 23, 2002 2:47 pm

They are everyone, you see them all over the road.

That should tell you something Mr. Beaver.  Smile
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SupaFly! And Others....

Wed Oct 23, 2002 3:10 pm

Superfly!

I kinda feel your pain! We being Chrysler owners and all that...Though I will say that my Turbo NYer still runs like a swiss watch and I did "peel the skin" of a S2000 the other day from a standing start. Nothing like a "sleeper" to keep the "arrogant" in line so to speak and remind them that an S2000 is just a nice sports car, not a Ferrari...(same goes for the Z28 and M3 I blew off as well...)

After ripping the hell out of one at a stop light, I was intrigued by the car and I went to see one and test drive one at the local Honda Hut. I found it to be a cross between an old English sports car and a modern economy car. The open air, leather seats, willing and buzzy engine remind me of the MGB my Mom had when I was a child but also posses the excellent Honda workmanship, economy, creature comforts and content expected in a contemporary automobile. It also helps that it is one of the most attractively styled sports cars around! Though certainly no match for my NYer Turbo (though nothing is!) I wouldn't mind owning one. As far as it's interior dimensions, I'm 6'1" and 170 pounds and didn't find it any more cramped than any of the other little cars I've ridden in and frankly the seats are very comfortable. Also on a styling note, it is very attractive and clean, avoiding all of the "rice rocket doo-dads" that profane so many Japanese sporty cars today.
 
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RE: Honda S2000

Wed Oct 23, 2002 5:27 pm

"The only ricer i have any respect for is the Supra"

TWAL1011 then i must say that you certianly don't know your cars all that well. The twin turbo Supra is pretty good but the Skyline R33/R34 GTR is better. The RB26DETT engine is legendary and super powerful(it is a 2.6L straight 6 twin turbocharged). I've personally seen video clips of modified GTR'S doing 0-300km/h in 17 secs!!! and stock standard GTR's doing 0-100km/h in about 4.5 secs. By the way a stock standard R34 Skyline GTR will do 300km/h with no problems at all. The Nissan Skyline GTR is the undisputed king of imports and with even the slightest modifications i gaurantee you it would strip the crap out of any Camaro/Corvette or whatever.
 
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RE: Honda S2000

Wed Oct 23, 2002 7:22 pm

Whoah - hey guys - the car in the post a dozen or so up. The one with the three girls, one holding a beer. What is that car, how much does it cost and can you buy them in the UK? That is one of the most simple yet stunning cars I have seen for ages. I want! Big grin
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RE: Honda S2000

Thu Oct 24, 2002 12:53 am

Ryan, that's a Mustang. I know they sell them back home as I have seen them in places like Sunderland (still can't believe they beat Arsenal!). If you can see them that far flung, than I am sure you can buy one. Can't tell you what kind if Money you will need for it though...
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RE: Honda S2000

Thu Oct 24, 2002 2:18 am

"Why are you guys all so hell bent on Rustangs? They're POS. Grab an M3, S4, or something other then a RUSTANG.
"

Bull crap. A 2000 SVT Cobra R could take on a M3 and so could the current model.

Search for a comparison test on Edmunds.
 
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RE: Honda S2000

Thu Oct 24, 2002 3:04 am

The 2000 model also didn't have AC, a stereo, or power anything, & cost about $5000 more than the M3 (before dealer markup of course). If SVT cobra is your thing, 2003 or bust. At leat it has some features, (and oh hell yes, someone looking at an M3 will consider "feature" content to be very important).
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RE: Honda S2000

Thu Oct 24, 2002 3:40 am

Just said to the roommate "What would you take, a Honda S2000 or a Mustang GT?"

His response: "An S2000, for sure."

I think that sums up both of our opinions.  Big thumbs up
 
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RE: Honda S2000

Thu Oct 24, 2002 4:29 am

LOT, yeah, so maybe the Cobra beats the M3 out of the whole. But trying turning? On a swervy road course? The M3 driver will be finished with his first beer by the time the Cobra driver arrives.

TB
 
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RE: Honda S2000

Thu Oct 24, 2002 8:01 am

I looked up Edmunds and did find a comparison with the 2000 Ford Mustang Cobra R, but it was going against a Chevrolet Corvette Z06 and a Dodge Viper GTS ACR in the "American Exotics Comparison"

If anyone's following the the topic anymore, there was also a comparison in there with the S2000 in a roadster comparision. It won, beating roadsters from BMW, Audi, Porsche, and Mercedes-Benz. http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/comparison/articles/44465/article.html
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RE: Honda S2000

Thu Oct 24, 2002 8:13 am

Turbine Beaver, grow up!
The 'Stang and the fine cars from Germany are not very alike, both serve different worlds in performance effectively.
BTW, don't be so quick to knock on the Stang's handling characteristics, especially the new Cobra, alot has been done to provide a real nice ride.
If you call yourself a real "car nut" then I cannot understand how you can go by that and purchase a car you can't even work on yourself, which just gives American muscle another good point.

-Tom
 
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RE: Honda S2000

Thu Oct 24, 2002 8:33 am

Well said Tom

TB: Your assuming things that it will finish first...all you do is assume and assume
 
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RE: Honda S2000

Thu Oct 24, 2002 11:57 am

and can you buy them in the UK?

I sure hope so, Ryanb741. Otherwise you're missing out!
 
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RE: Honda S2000

Thu Oct 24, 2002 12:10 pm

Superfly,
LOL! I am not arrogant nor do I have a big ego. I was just kidding around with my Camero driver description.
I grew up in an American car family and have seen and driven the Pontiac's. The interiors are thoroughly lacking in buttons, knobs, plastic and more buttons.
I am not a fan of the Mustangs or Camero's because instead of styling them, they just add more plastic. Tell me the latest Camero doesn't have a Le Baron's headlights?
I really don't care what car he buys, I just voted for the S2000 because I could see myself in one.

Jeremy
 
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RE: Honda S2000

Thu Oct 24, 2002 12:18 pm

J.mo:
Tell me the latest Camero doesn't have a Le Baron's headlights?


The latest Camero doesn't have a Le Baron's headlights.  Smile

Bring back the Concorde
 
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RE: Honda S2000

Thu Oct 24, 2002 8:59 pm

Damn! You can't buy a new Mustang in the UK (checked with Ford). I know my current car would eat the Mustang for breakfast but I really like the look of the Mustang - I can't believe that's a Ford! Maybe I could get one on import (that's how I got the Skyline) but I assume getting parts would be a problem.

Time to move to the US I think! Big grin
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RE: Honda S2000

Fri Oct 25, 2002 1:51 am

Superfly,
You are correct. I think Chevy just looked to the LeBaron for styling inspiration. I apologize.

Jeremy

 
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RE: Honda S2000

Fri Oct 25, 2002 2:20 am

"I know my current car would eat the Mustang for breakfast but I really like the look of the Mustang - I can't believe that's a Ford! Maybe I could get one on import (that's how I got the Skyline) but I assume getting parts would be a problem."

You have a Skyline R32 GTR? BWHAHAHAAHHA Eat a Mustang SVT Cobra Good one...I had a good laugh Ryan..
 
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RE: Honda S2000

Fri Oct 25, 2002 2:37 am

If it is anything less than an SVT Cobra, as he clearly said, yeah a Skyline will take it for a nice little walk there.


Ryan, are you sure they don't sell them at home? I have seen an awful lot of them the last time I was there. They weren't properly converted to right side drive, but they were there.
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RE: Honda S2000

Fri Oct 25, 2002 2:41 am

Wn700driver...still smoking those Camaro Z28s with your 91' Accord Big grin
 
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RE: Honda S2000

Fri Oct 25, 2002 2:54 am

Actually yeah, though I haven't been to the track in about three weeks. Still driving those Converse All stars to work?
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RE: Honda S2000

Fri Oct 25, 2002 3:17 am

LOT767-300ER - I have a Nissan Skyline R34 GTR. And it would eat almost anything on the road for breakfast. It would make the Mustang look like a go-cart.

Fool

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RE: Honda S2000

Fri Oct 25, 2002 3:27 am

Guys guys guys, the Mustang is American, so it's better! No argument!  Big grin
It doesn't matter what anybody else does, it's the fact that one is American, so it will win regardless. At least that's what I gather from reading some of the above messages.
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RE: Honda S2000

Fri Oct 25, 2002 3:29 am

Ryan, what are the 1/4 times for the R34 anyways?

Captain, yeah it's amazing how some people refuse to acknowledge that they are obviously wrong...
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RE: Honda S2000

Fri Oct 25, 2002 3:31 am

In fact, the Skyline would pull the Mustang's trousers down, give it a hard seeing to then flip it onto its front and lay a nice fresh turd on its face. It would then go to the Mustang's home, f*ck its wife and daughter, help itself to the Mustang's finest bourbon and smoke all its favourite Cuban cigars.
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RE: Honda S2000

Fri Oct 25, 2002 3:36 am

Here are some stats, but raw figures don't do the car justice. The only other car I have been as impressed with is the BMW M3


Horsepower 277 bhp @ 6800 rpm
Torque 293 lb-ft @ 4400 rpm

Acceleration

0-40 mph 2.7
0-60 mph 5.2
0-80 mph 8.7
0-100 mph 13.0

0-1320 ft (1/4 mile) 13.7 @ 103.5 mph

Braking

From 60 mph 120 ft
From 80 mph 204 ft

Handling

200 ft skidpad 0.89 g
700 ft slalom 60.8 mph

Fuel Economy

Normal Driving 22.8 mpg

Interior Noise

Idle in neutral 52 dBA
Maximum 1st gear 78 dBA
70 mph 76 dBA
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RE: Honda S2000

Fri Oct 25, 2002 5:56 am

Ryanb741,
I don't think the GT-R would do exactly what you said to a Mustang GT, as the quater mile and 0-60 times are all pretty much in par with the GT's, I would post stat's too, but after a long day I have no will to search the net anymore. (BTW, if you wanna' see a 'Stang that can rip many a car open a new a$$hole, then look at the black beauty in my profile: 1993 Mustang Saleen S351)

Later,
-Tom
 
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RE: Honda S2000

Fri Oct 25, 2002 6:36 am

Ryan you stand no chance against a Mustang SVT Cobra. Sorry but you just dont.

2002 SVT

ENGINE

Type Longitudinally mounted, 90° V-8, cast iron block with aluminum heads, fully counterweighted forged crankshaft
Bore x stroke 90.2 x 90.0mm
Displacement: 4,601cc/280cid
Compression ratio: 8.5:1
Horsepower: 390 hp @ 6,000 rpm
Torque: 390 lb.-ft. @ 3,500 rpm
Specific output : 84.8 horsepower per liter
Redline: 6,500 rpm (fuel shut-off at 6,500 prm)
Valvetrain: Double overhead camshafts, chain drive to exhaust cams, secondary chains from exhaust to intake cams, roller finger followers with hydraulic lash adjustment, oval-wire beehive shaped valve springs, four valves per cyclinder

Performance

0-60mph 4.8 Seconds
0-100mph 11.1 Seconds
Max Speed 155mph ELECTRONIC LIMITIATION 175+ with no chip.
1/4 Mile Time- 12.8 Seconds 110mph Standard Test 13.2 Seconds 108.1mph


BMW M3 is even worse than the Skyline....and for $53k it dosent even come close to the Mustang. The SVT can crush the M3 in seconds

Some 2002 BMW M3 Specs

Engine

3.2L DOHC I-6cyl.
Horsepower [email protected]

Performance:

Top Speed 155mph
0-60 4.9 Seconds BMW Standard Test 5.4 Seconds
1/4 Quarter Mile Time 14.0 Seconds 99.8mph

Something to back it up of course lol

http://www.europeancarweb.com/projectcars/0201ec_projbmw_2/"
http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/roadtests/spin/71189/article.html"





 
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RE: Honda S2000

Fri Oct 25, 2002 6:50 am

Thing is... European cars make their owners so satisfied that they don't have to race people to get a hard-on. Big grin

Staffan
 
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RE: Honda S2000

Fri Oct 25, 2002 6:54 am

Staffan thats a matter of opinion.... And your pretty narrow minded because i realize that some people prefer this or that not everyone is satisfied with one.

Too bad you have to stoop down so low because you even lose on the technical side of the vehicle side...
 
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RE: Honda S2000

Fri Oct 25, 2002 6:59 am

Jeeeeezuz, who is the narrow minded person here?
 
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RE: Honda S2000

Fri Oct 25, 2002 7:07 am

Which SVT Cobra are you quoting. The 2001 model says 0-60 in 5.9 seconds. There were no stats for the car to be released in 2003.
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RE: Honda S2000

Fri Oct 25, 2002 7:09 am

LOT767-300ER, for the 8327338th time:

Sports car have to CORNER fast, not going on a straight line. So your numbers mean nothing, compare the lap times on a race track. But I see, you don't want to know it. I hope you just have 100% straight roads in the USA. Driving a straight with a fast car is fun for the first 2 hours, but driving a corner with a fast car is fun for the first 2 years.
 
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RE: Honda S2000

Fri Oct 25, 2002 7:24 am

2002, and 2003 Stats are out. Just do a search on Google or go the SVT site.

Fine Racko. Stats for a Standard Slalom

2000 SVT Cobra R

"The Cobra carries a completely retuned suspension system that lets the car handle and corner at even higher limits"

Slalom (mph): 69.3mph

2002 BMW M3 Coupe

"Through the slalom, however, oversteer helps to turn the car, allowing the BMW to post a respectable 67.4-mph average speed."

Slalom (mph): 67.4mph

Data from

http://www.roadandtrack.com/features/ArticleDisplay.asp?ArticleID=220&page=8"
BMW M3 Coupe

http://www.fast-autos.net/ford/cobrarinfo.html:

Standard 2000 SVT Cobra R

Say what Racko? The Mustang eats the M3 in that too....anything else you would like to add Big grin



 
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RE: Honda S2000

Fri Oct 25, 2002 7:27 am

BTW A Mitsubishi Lancer can get 70.5mph on a slalom while a Ferrari Modena 360 gets 69 flat...Yea Racko by your thinking the Lancer is better...puh leeze
 
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RE: Honda S2000

Fri Oct 25, 2002 7:29 am

Ah this is funny. Now that the Import fans are seeing that the Corvette And Mustang Cobra are faster than the BMW "sportscars", they resort to handling aspects.

I didn't know the definition of a sports car was only good handling, only you seem to be the ones who think that, did you know that a go-kart can handle very well, but they are not that fast are they?  Laugh out loud

Now that you see a Mustang can out-handle an M3, what's next? "Only real sportscars have luxury interiors"?  Laugh out loud




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ryanb741
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RE: Honda S2000

Fri Oct 25, 2002 7:35 am

We know the Mustang can murder the M3, but I am still unsure as to how such a heavy car as the Mustang would cope against the lighter Skyline on a circuit where cornering is key. I must admit my surprise at just how impressive the 'Stang is though - especially for the relatively low price.

Don't get me wrong, I like the Mustang (hence my earlier posts as to where I could get one in the UK) but seeing as I have creamed a work colleagues Porsche Carrera Turbo in my Skyline I would be very impressed if the Mustang could outdo that.

Another car that had impressed me was the Dodge Viper (I have a Singaporean friend who bought one here in London and is keeping it here for a year to avoid heavy import taxes when he takes it back to Singapore) but up to 60 MPH it isn't even a contest between the Viper and the Skyline. After that the Viper's huuuuge engine kicks in and its mid-range accelleration is nothing short of absolutely brutal ( Big grin ) but the Skyline still eats it for breakfast overall, especially handling.
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