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'Third Worldization' Of California Lost In Recall

Fri Sep 19, 2003 3:35 am

Cry California

The other side of paradise isn't getting much attention in the recall election

By Mike Davis
Sunday, September 14, 2003

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Every candidate in California's dark recall-election comedy should be obliged to answer the question: "Whither Duroville?"

"Duroville" is the California visitors never see and that pundits ignore when they debate the future of the world's sixth largest economy.

Officially this ramshackle desert community of 4,000 people in the Coachella Valley doesn't even exist. It is a shantytown -- reminiscent of the Okie camps in "The Grapes of Wrath" -- erected by otherwise homeless farmworkers on land owned by Harvey Duro, a member of the Cahuilla Indian nation.

The Coachella Valley is the prototype of a future -- Beverly Hills meets Tijuana -- that California conservatives seem to dream of creating everywhere. The western side of the valley, from Palm Springs to La Quinta, is an air- conditioned paradise of gated communities built around artificial lakes and 18- hole golf courses. A typical resident is a 65-year-old retired white male in a golf cart. He is a zealous voter who disapproves of taxes, affirmative action, and social services for the immigrants who wait on him.

The east side of the valley, from Indio to Mecca, is where the resort maids, busboys, pool cleaners, and farmworkers live. There is an artificial mountain built out of 500,000 tons of sludge (solid sewage) trucked in from Los Angeles, but nary a blade of grass. In Duroville the largest body of water is the sewage lagoon, and the local playground is a dioxin-contaminated landfill. The typical resident is 18 years old, speaks Spanish or Mixtec, and works all day in the blast-furnace desert heat.

She/he, most likely, is not yet a citizen and therefore ineligible to vote.

Squalor, exploitation and disenfranchisement are not just anomalies of California's agricultural valleys and "factories in the field." There are urban Durovilles as well, like the sprawling tenement district just a few blocks west of downtown Los Angeles. On the gilded coast north of San Diego, an estimated 10,000 immigrant day laborers and service workers sleep rough in the wild canyons behind $800,000 tract homes. Throughout the state, hundreds of thousands of immigrant workers live in illegal garage conversions, derelict trailers, even chicken coops.

Economic inequality has soared in the last generation, particularly in the southern half of the state. In the Los Angeles area, for example, the top 20 percent of the workforce earns 25 times more on average than the bottom 20 percent. Similarly, a third of Los Angeles residents lack medical insurance and must depend on a handful of overcrowded county hospitals whose doctors have recently given chilling testimony about the rising number of needless deaths from shortages of staff and beds.

This Third World California, which Duroville poignantly symbolizes, is no accidental creation. The famous tax revolt of the 1970s was racial politics coded as fiscal populism. As the Latino population soared, white voters -- egged on by right-wing demagogues -- withdrew support from the public sector. California became a bad-school state in lockstep with becoming a low-wage state. Overcrowded classrooms and dangerous playgrounds are part of a vicious circle with sweatshop jobs and slum housing.

The California labor movement, reinvigorated by a new generation of organizing, has fought to halt creeping "Mississippization" with living wage ordinances, increased school spending and the closure of tax loopholes for the rich. There have been some victories (mainly in funding education), but progressive politics fights uphill against two huge structural obstacles.

The first is the legacy of Proposition 13 itself, which requires supermajorities to raise most taxes. The second, and more daunting, is the glacial pace of the enfranchisement of new immigrants. Although Anglos are now a minority of the population, they still constitute 70 percent of the electorate. Even in 2040, according to the projections of the Public Policy Institute of California, whites (only 35 percent of the population) will still cast 53 percent of the votes.

If current trends continue, this geriatric white minority will also consume a majority of entitlements and tax resources.

The conservative worldview, of course, inverts these realities. Led by former Gov. Pete Wilson, Republicans argue that the state has become a dumping ground for shiftless and uncultured beggars from the South. Mexico, as depicted in a notorious Wilson campaign ad ("They keep coming!"), is invading Anglo California and imposing huge tax, crime and pollution burdens upon its honest burghers. The true wretched of the earth are long-suffering, overtaxed white guys in their golf carts.

Reason dies screaming in the face of such nonsense, but it is peddled 24 hours a day by the pit-bull talk-show hosts who dominate California AM radio and, increasingly, commercial television. White rage is also the steroid that Republican strategists hope will pump up Arnold Schwarzenegger for heavy lifting in the November recall. Liberal commentators have attacked the movie star for his singular lack of articulate positions on decisive issues. But the criticism is unfair.

The Terminator, in fact, has a long history of ideological commitment that, for tactical reasons, his campaign-minders want to downplay. Most striking has been his extensive involvement in the nativist crusades to deny health care and education to undocumented immigrants, and to make English the exclusive official language. The poor boy from the Alpine boondocks was a key endorser of anti-immigrant Proposition 187 in 1994, and, even more sinisterly, a longtime board member of U.S. English, a national organization with notorious ties to men in white hoods.

But it would be a mistake, in any case, to think that Arnie is the actual star of his latest and most lavish film. As all the punters in Sacramento have pointed out, the real title should be: "Return from the Grave: Wilson Part Three." The ex-governor is the specter haunting the recall.

His veteran staff (including George Gorton, who ran Boris Yeltsin's re- election) control all the important strings moving Schwarzenegger, while Wilson himself drives a sales campaign that has successfully recruited most of the billionaires in the state. As a result, the inner circle of Schwarzenegger's "populist" crusade looks like a Bohemian Grove toga party: Donald Bren, George Shultz, David Murdock, Warren Buffett, and so on.

Wilson, of course, is anathema to Latinos, blacks and the labor movement. Supposedly California was done with this racist divisiveness when voters in 1998 rejected his protege, attorney general Dan Lungren, and then last year when they voted down another wealthy Wilson clone. So who forgot the silver stake?

Now that the rats are on dry ground, it has been easy for many Democrats to dismiss incumbent Gray Davis as a singularly unfortunate choice: a charisma- less robot with an open palm who let the state be pillaged by Enron during the phony energy crisis three years ago.

But again in fairness, Davis exemplifies precisely those qualities -- pro- corporate, politically centrist, and hard law-and-order -- that the Democratic Leadership Council has so long recommended as the salvation of the Democratic Party. Nor is his disintegration unique: just look at the other "moderate" Democrats dead in the starting blocks of the presidential primary.

This is why the labor wing of the California Democrats should have embraced the opportunity of the recall to push forward one of their own. Davis has generally been detested by union activists. Yet the state federation of labor, and almost no one else, remained pathetically loyal to His Grayness and allowed his cunning and unprincipled lieutenant governor, Cruz Bustamante, to run off with the party endorsement.

Bustamante may be preferable to Pete Wilson hiding inside the Trojan horse called Schwarzenegger, but the difference is probably less than most Democratic voters imagine. Some years ago, Bustamante was talking with then- Gov Wilson about amending state law to allow the execution of minors. When Wilson suggested death sentences for criminals as young as 14, Bustamante responded that he might "with a tear in my eye, cast a vote to execute 'hardened criminals' as young as 13."

The major alternative to potential child killers is California's Green Party. In last year's gubernatorial election, Green candidate Peter Camejo won 5 percent of the vote and emboldened thousands of progressives to envision life-after-the-Democrats. Camejo, a veteran of Berkeley in the 60s, retains a fire in his belly and chased around the state playing Michael Moore to Gray Davis' "Roger." He's one of the first Greens to make some impact in unions and among Latinos.

Unfortunately, much of the media attention that otherwise might have accrued to the Greens has been hijacked by Arianna Huffington, running as an independent. A professional television guest and columnist, formerly married to one of the state's richest Republicans, she's undertaken an unusual journey in the desert of American politics: moving from the far right to the moderate left. The most likely effect of her candidacy, despite promises to coordinate with Camejo, will be to reduce rather than enhance the left-of-the-Democrats vote.

Regardless of the outcome next month, the recall battle has already clarified some of the new terrain of California politics. Republicans have gained tremendous confidence in their ability to thwart any future legislative effort toward tax reform or economic justice.

Liberal Democrats have had their faces rubbed in the moral rot of their party. In Duroville, meanwhile, they look across their sewer lake at the fat life of a rapidly receding California dream.

Mike Davis is the acclaimed author of City of Quartz, Ecology of Fear, and Magical Urbanism. He is a traveling lecturer and professor of history at the University of California, Irvine.
 
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Fri Sep 19, 2003 4:17 am

Would you like some cheese with your whine?

Gimme an f-ing break.

Why should an ILLEGAL alien deserve ANYTHING?

These white guys in golf carts, living in upscale, air conditioned homes are being made out to be the bad guy, when all their lives, they worked, voted, obeyed the law, and paid their taxes. Why SHOULDN'T they be opposed to taxes/social handouts and AA?

The east side of the valley, from Indio to Mecca, [this is an area all of about 20 miles-Mecca is southeast of Indio on SR-86S] is where the resort maids, busboys, pool cleaners, and farmworkers live. There is an artificial mountain built out of 500,000 tons of sludge (solid sewage) trucked in from Los Angeles, but nary a blade of grass. In Duroville the largest body of water is the sewage lagoon, and the local playground is a dioxin-contaminated landfill. The typical resident is 18 years old, speaks Spanish or Mixtec, and works all day in the blast-furnace desert heat.

She/he, most likely, is not yet a citizen and therefore ineligible to vote.


Well it sucks to be them, now doesn't it?

Ever hear of coming here leglly?

Ever heard of citizens BEFORE illegals?

Ever heard of friggin' birth control?

I wouldn't give a pitcher of spit to save these illegals.

And I sleep pretty darn soundly at night.

Thank you.



 
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RE: 'Third Worldization' Of California Lost In Recall

Fri Sep 19, 2003 4:20 am

Why do they hire them to do yard work then?
 
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Fri Sep 19, 2003 4:29 am

Because they can.
 
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RE: 'Third Worldization' Of California Lost In Recall

Fri Sep 19, 2003 4:39 am

So much for obeying the law. Funny how that works.
 
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Fri Sep 19, 2003 2:20 pm

Well not only should they not be in the country illegally, but they shouldn't be hired by people to do those jobs.

INS used to take a dim view on that, do they still?
 
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Fri Sep 19, 2003 5:52 pm

INS no longer exists.
 
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Fri Sep 19, 2003 5:55 pm

I know, it got it's named changed.

But the same people still work there and they still get the same US Treasury checks every two weeks.
 
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Fri Sep 19, 2003 6:01 pm

Fine, let's not hire them then. Ever. Let's just eliminate the entire Californian agricultural industry and move it overseas so prices will stay where they are now. Why? Because dagnubbit, some illegals are out there working those fields! We can't have that! Never mind the filipinos and japanese of the early 20th century who went on to bigger and better things from the same fields, never mind the chinese who built our railroads and helped usher a new urban industrial age to this state. Let's be like all previous generations and demonize yet another group of illegal folks here in pursuit of a better life.

We'd better start rounding up high school kids now, because there's a ton of lawns to mow, billions of gallons of toilet water to clean, and millions of yards of garment materials to sew. Sure, we may not like the adjustments in price at first, but I'm positive we can all get used to it.

[Edited 2003-09-19 11:02:27]
 
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Fri Sep 19, 2003 6:19 pm

If they are that critical, then maybe a "guest worker" system needs to be implemented.

But the current absence of that sort of system, is not an excuse to work illegally or enter the US illegally
 
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Fri Sep 19, 2003 9:46 pm

Good article....thanks for posting it..................

Too bad so many people fail to realize that innmigration (legal and illegal) has made the US what it is today.
 
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Fri Sep 19, 2003 9:55 pm

Legal Immigration...No problem

But admitadly the US needs to learn how to reduce paperwork.

Illegal. NOT GOOD.
 
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Fri Sep 19, 2003 10:00 pm

I've never really understood why the US can't just stop illegal immigration. Much higher fences at the border and ID cards for every legit resident. Kick the rest out. Why is this so difficult? If the agriculture industry needs workers, increase LEGITIMATE immigration to address it.

 
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Fri Sep 19, 2003 10:03 pm

Nope...............Illegal innmigration has also been very very good for the economy
 
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Fri Sep 19, 2003 10:09 pm

Doesn't matter. They can climb like cats and dig like moles.

Now you give the Border Patrol the right to shoot to kill anyone attempting to come in, and have a few would-be illegals dusted, that might make a lot of them think.

Or even better, why not ELIMINATE the incentive for them to come here in the first place?

1. No welfare, school, health care, or drivers licenses for illegals. In other words, enforcing Prop 187, which was overwhelmingly PASSED by the voters of CA, but shot down by the Taco Bell Patrol.

2. No [visibly] pregnant woman allowed in, period. No exceptions.

3. If you still manage to get caught being in here without proper clearance, the penalty is a smashed wrist and a broken ankle.

4. You implement above 1-3, and you can protect our border with chicken wire.
 
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Fri Sep 19, 2003 10:17 pm

Nope...............Illegal innmigration has also been very very good for the economy

Who's economy? The US or Mexico?

The US economy loses $B each year in remittances to Mexico by illegals working in the US. I fail to see how the US benefits.
 
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Fri Sep 19, 2003 10:42 pm

Now you give the Border Patrol the right to shoot to kill anyone attempting to come in, and have a few would-be illegals dusted, that might make a lot of them think.
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Are you advocating for the right of shooting unarmed people?
 
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Fri Sep 19, 2003 10:43 pm

Yes.

They ARE criminals, and clearly, rounding them up and sticking them on the Green Bus ain't working.
 
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Fri Sep 19, 2003 10:45 pm

Who's economy? The US or Mexico?

The US economy loses $B each year in remittances to Mexico by illegals working in the US. I fail to see how the US benefits.
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Jajajajajajjajajajajajajjajaja yeah right!....................................

"Contrary to what many Americans believe, the vast majority of today's immigrants--legal and illegal--are doing well, or are at least striving to pave the way for their children to live better lives. Those immigrant families who arrived in the U.S. before 1980 boast a higher average income than that of native-born Americans. Few immigrants come to America to get on welfare. Immigrant children aren't devouring precious education dollars: only four percent of the $227 billion we spend on education is spent on educating legal immigrant children and just two percent is spent on the estimated 648,000 children who are here illegally. Immigrants are not long-term drains on our economy. Yes, the estimated 3.8 million illegal immigrants cost the country $2 billion a year, chiefly because they work in low-wage jobs and often don't pay income taxes. But as a group, the foreign-born pay $25 to $30 billion a year more in taxes than they consume in government services, and working-age, non-refugee immigrants are much less likely than natives to receive welfare, according to the Urban Institute."

Source:
http://www.digitas.harvard.edu/~perspy/old/issues/1995/may/187cons.html


 
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Fri Sep 19, 2003 10:50 pm

OK OK lets step down a few notches in human evolution here, ..........so you DO want unarmed illegal inmigrants shot because they are in the US? ok ok.......but why do you want to do that?.......history shows that their children will make more money than yours....hence paying higher income taxes so you can get a bigger tax break on your trailer.  Smile

[Edited 2003-09-19 15:51:56]
 
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Sat Sep 20, 2003 12:36 am

Ok forget about shooting them.

Why not implement my above measures 1-3 instead, and eliminate the need to escalate to violence in the first place?
 
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Sat Sep 20, 2003 12:37 am

Well I think proposition 187 is brilliant. I mean, doesn't it make sense? Let's not allow children of illegal immigrants access to education, because it's so much FUN to propagate the cycle of poverty! Oooh better yet, let's not allow children access to healthcare either, because it's JUST to punish kids for their parents' decisions! I love punishing children!
 
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Sat Sep 20, 2003 12:41 am

Better yet, why not have the children of illegal immigrants get all their schooling, healthcare, and whatever else in their NATIVE country ERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR that would make too much sense. Instead I guess the hard working tax payers making an honest living should CONTINUE to foot the bill.
 
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Sat Sep 20, 2003 12:45 am

It's a tough world out there Aaron.

Frankly, I don't seem to think you get it. But please explain to me why you think that I, as a born and bred American citizen and taxpayer should have ANY legal or moral reason to support these people.

Lofty, heartwarming idealism such as "because it's the right or compassionate thing to do" do not count. We live in a dog-eat-dog world.

If there is a legitimate reason, that would be of beneift to ME as well as the other taxpayers, I'm willing to hear you out.

But otherwise, I see no reason to argue this point with you any further.


...and if you feel that strongly about it, maybe you should start supporting, feeding and sheltering these people at your own expense, out of your own take-home pay (assuming you have any).

It's always easy to be compassionate and altruistic whenever you're spending someone ELSES money.

Let's see you practice what you preach.
 
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Sat Sep 20, 2003 1:11 am

I don't think anything requires explanation. Unless you get a Constitutional amendment passed stipulating that children of illegals are not allowed to be naturalized or born citizens, then you best be damned sure you'll have a legitimate reason to support educating them. The cost to society of an uneducated person should present itself as no mystery.
 
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Sat Sep 20, 2003 1:16 am

The cost to society of an uneducated person should present itself as no mystery.

The cost is zero if that uneducated person is deported back to their rightful country of origin.

 
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Sat Sep 20, 2003 1:20 am

How do you deport an American citizen? That was part of the holding from the federal judge who invalidated Prop 187 - precluding children of illegal immigrants born in the US from receiving public education is inherently unconstitutional.

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Sat Sep 20, 2003 6:36 am

Leave it to the leftist to glorify an illegal immigrant, and villify people who have actually made contributions to society.
 
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Sat Sep 20, 2003 7:22 am

precluding children of illegal immigrants born in the US from receiving public education is inherently unconstitutional.

Then INCLUDING children of illegal immigrants in public education only ENCOURAGES more illegal immigration.




 
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Sat Sep 20, 2003 7:45 am

Like I said, if that's the case, someone should propose a Constitutional amendment.
 
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Sat Sep 20, 2003 3:27 pm

My grandfather on my dad's side immigrated to the United States from Poland in the 1920s (I forget the exact year) when he was 7 years old. He married the daughter of fellow immigrants and together they had two children, my father and his brother. Grandpa enlisted and fought in World War II. Even though I'm interested, he has never talked about his experiences taking part in liberating two concentration camps in Germany. He has definately made a very positive contribution to the nation. His parents sacrificed immensely, immigrated legally, went through all the steps, signed the paperwork, took the oath, and I will be damned if you're going to let ILLEGAL immigrants have the same rights as my family. They are breaking the law. If I were to break the law, I'd be fined or sent to jail. Not so with illegals.

We are surrendering our standing as a sovereign nation by not defending our own borders! What are we doing in Iraq when we can't even defend ourselves?
 
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Sat Sep 20, 2003 3:39 pm

It has been estimated that the cost of adding every new person to any
community is about $15,200 a year, and that is the initial cost. It is
not the costs we incur every year from that point on. There is no way
that people coming into the United States today with very few skills or
none at all, taking the lowest-paid jobs available, will ever pay back
that cost. So all the talk about immigration being important for the
United States, important economically, is hokum.

If we were to really be concerned about what was good for America, we
would say that we will take in about 300,000 a year, and here is who we
need, people with certain skills, high-level skills, primarily, who
will come into the United States, become very highly successful in
terms of whatever trade they are involved with, and become net
taxpayers, not tax users. That is the present state of affairs, that by
far, by far the people coming into the United States today are net tax
drains on the United States over even in the short run and over the
long run.


And that, Aaron747, is a quote from 2001 by Congressman Tom Tancredo.

http://www.fairus.org/html/08843109.htm

More:

If you have been stopped in Mexico for a traffic ticket, I mean, I
could go on and on and on. We know that the best way to handle it is to
hand the policeman your driver's license and a $20 bill, probably now
more like a $50 bill. It does not matter. The corruption goes from that
level up to the top.

I assure the Speaker that until we begin to address this particular
problem in Mexico we will never have a viable economy. NAFTA has got
nothing to do with it.

We could have completely 100 percent free trade between these two
countries. We would lose many, many jobs in the United States, but it
would not improve the economy of Mexico because the economy in Mexico
is stuck in two ways.

It is stuck in a socialistic enterprise. It still has not been able
to get itself out of the old government control, government ownership.
The government owns the oil industry. The most significant industry in
Mexico is owned by the government. This is not a good idea.


If I had the opportunity, I would ask Mr. Fox, What are you going to
do about that? Are you going to divest yourself of the oil industry
because, of course, you will never prosper as a nation under these
conditions?

What are you going to do, President Fox, about corruption? Tell me
specifically how you are going to handle it.

President Fox demanded of the United States not too long ago,
attacking our current immigration policies, and this was in Milwaukee
on July 17, an integrated Mexican-U.S. labor market. An integrated
Mexican-U.S. labor market.

Again, I would ask Mr. Fox, What do you mean by that? That is an
interesting statement. An integrated labor market. I would like to know
specifically how you define that.

He demanded that U.S. laws be rewritten to bring about open borders
between the United States and Mexico and that we give illegal aliens in
the United States driver's licenses, even though, of course, they
cannot read the road signs and do not have insurance; and that we give
Mexican illegals a university education and other taxpayer benefits.

Mr. Speaker, we do now presently provide K-12 education to all
illegal immigrants' children in the United States. He wants us to go
farther. He asked us to, in fact, provide university education to
illegal immigrants from Mexico.


So I would ask President Fox, Will your government, the Government of
Mexico, provide a free education, K-12 and post-secondary, to any
foreign national in Mexico as he has requested of the United States? Is
he willing to do the same thing?

I would ask President Fox, Since you own the oil company, President
Fox, will you agree to sell the United States oil at below OPEC prices
when that cartel punishes the United States by reducing its production?
Because at a certain point, about $27, they go, oh, it is too low. OPEC
says we have got to decrease production in order to increase prices.

So, President Fox, you said that you wanted to be a friend to the
United States. We have to build a relationship on trust.

Okay, I would say. Mr. Fox, let us start here. I want you to agree to
sell us oil at below OPEC prices every time they try to blackmail us.
What do you think the answer would be? I wonder.


I would ask him again, President Fox, What specific step is your
government willing to take in the direction of increased privatization
of the Mexican industry, Mexican economy. Are you willing to give up
the oil company? Are you willing to privatize in order to spur economic
growth?

If not, do not look to the United States to be your safety valve, to
take all of your unemployed, all of your poverty.
Because I assure you,
Mr. Speaker, as long as we continue to do that there will never be any
pressure on Mexico to reform itself, as long as we are there acting as
that safety valve.

I will ask him, Mr. Fox, Will you stop the practice of handing out
survival kits to those people about ready to come into the United
States illegally? An agency of the government hands out a paper bag,
200,000 at last count, to people coming across the border into the
United States illegally, paper bags filled with maps, little how-to-
survive in the desert, condoms. Go ask them what is the purpose. But,
anyway, that is what they give them, some water.

Will you stop that, Mr. Fox? Because you say you want to stop illegal
immigration in the United States, why are you promoting it by handing
them out "survival kits''? Will you stop that as a friendly nation?

Will you publicly condemn those members of the Mexican Government who
have called for the recolonialization of the southwestern United States
by Mexican nationals? They have done so. Bizarre as that sounds, they
have done so.

I guess also, Mr. Fox, I would have to ask you, Why are you
encouraging your people to take dual citizenships in the United States?
In 1998, Mexico passed a law allowing for dual citizenships of their
people. Since then somewhere close to 6 million Mexican-Americans, or I
should not say Mexican-Americans because there are probably others
involved, but so far 6 million people have accepted that particular
identification as a dual citizen. Why are you doing that, Mr. Fox? I
ask our own government, Why do we allow that?

When a person becomes a citizen of this country, they are supposed to
raise their hand and swear that they give up allegiance to any foreign
power or potentate, I think is the word that they use.
How is it that
you can have a dual citizenship and call yourself an American? How can
that happen, Mr. Fox? President Bush, I would ask you the same
question.


So those are some of the questions that I would pose to the President
of Mexico, the Republic of Mexico or the United States of Mexico,
whatever it calls itself now. Those are the questions I would pose. I
hope that someone will ask them. I doubt if they will.

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