I'm not sure how many guys out there are attracted to older women; specifically, older women who have a thing for older men, not younger. So in reality, there's not a chance in hell that something would start between the younger guy and the older girl. It's sort of awkward because you'd just love it if the woman would have a change of heart so to speak and give a younger guy a go, and not be so set in her ways. A 5/6/7 year age difference is nothing in regards to women going after older men...many many marriages/relationships have a vast age difference...and more times than not, it's the guy who is the oldest of the two. It hardly seems to be the other way around. And that's too bad...for me anyway.

I bring this up because I have had a history of, how shall we say, trying to attain the unattainable. Is it frustrating? A resounding yes. Is it worthwhile even trying? Maybe. Is it working at all? A resounding no. With an exclamation point on the end for good measure. Out of the six women whom I consider to be decent friends of mine, all except one is at least three years older than I. I just relate to them better I guess. One in particular, who is, oh, about six years above me, really just makes me feel....alive. Damn that sounds corny as hell , but it's the truth. And everytime I do something with her, I just can't help thinking about how happy I would be with her. And about how happy I could make her. But the cold truth of the matter is that it is crystal clear that we are just friends, and will always be so. She's pretty much looking for the older guy who's a prime physical specimen, not a younger guy who won't exactly win a Mr. Universe contest such as I. So I guess that's her loss when all is said and done right? Or maybe it's mine. Hmm.

Sure, I have heard many times "you gotta just take a chance, you never know what the outcome will be". That is certainly true. But it is not easy to do, especially since basically all of the "chances" that i've taken have not really worked out to my benefit. It's one of those deals where you just say screw it, it's not worth it. And truth be told, that's been my way of thinking for the most part...sort of like "I know this will never go anywhere so don't even pursue it"...but man, something still tells me to hang in there, for perhaps someday everything will work out as it should.

Sorry to waste your time, but thanks for reading in any case. Feel free to reply if you like.


Steve/NewOrleans

A couple of years ago I tried to date a beautiful woman who was 13 years my senior.
It didn't work out.
But hey, I asked  . She was tactful enough to let me down nicely.
She just recently married someone more her age.
Actually, I wish nothing but the best for her, and the guy seems nice enough. She deserves the best, she's one of the all around nicest people I know.

I haven't asked anyone out much lately, I don't think I'll have time to date until the summer. I know it's not worth it right now. Between my full time job and school and homework I barely have time to breathe, eat, and sleep. I know I'm coming off like a real jerk to some folks I really don't mean to be short with. Any relationship right now would end badly unless the girl really liked talking once a week  

As a 27 year old, I'm not exactly the most aged guy out there in the dating scene. However, I have come up with a little theory recently. As people get older, they tend to become more selective when choosing whom to date. However, I advocate becoming less selective, particularly in the age of the potential dating partner. This is mainly due to the fact that I believe that compatibility is not a function of age, per se, although maturity level definitely does contribute. In more simple terms, there are 27 year old girls that I would not date, and there are 23 year olds that I definitely would.

Another thing to keep in mind is that, at least in my particular micro-culture, older unmarried women tend to be more issue-laden; a greater percentage of the datable population will have some sort of preemptory hang-up.

Back to your concern, I think that the logic of an older person waiting it out for a "prime physical specimen" is fundamentally flawed. Granted, one must be attracted to the person that they will eventually marry, however, placing such a large emphasis on physical attributes is indicative of a lack of maturity.

My point? She's not the catch that you think she is.

'Speed

NormalSpeed, I can definetely agree with you on all levels. Even the last quote you made regarding the lack of maturity. Great point...one that I never even thought of in regards to her until now...I suppose I was just caught off guard by how much I enjoy doing things with her that it never really crossed my mind. I can normally sense those things in people, but not this time. Weird. Ah you gotta love living in denial...it's not just a river in Egypt anymore.


Steve/NewOrleans

Friends -
xxx
Just let me have a smile in reading some of you here...
At times it is sexuality, gays, first experiences... makes me laugh...
I hardly ever indulge in expressing ideas here, in non-aviation.
But I wish to give you an opinion...
xxx
I met my first wife - Leila - a flight attendant, when I was some 30 years of age.
We got married nearly 2 years later. We wanted a family.
She got killed in a car crash, she was 7 months pregnant.
I was a widower at 34 years of age, and very sad.
Took me 10 years to recover, unable to have any relationships.
I was a loner, I loved travel, and be busy with my airline job.
For me, having a wife and a family was paramount... but years went by.
xxx
I met women who were my age, who did not want kids.
I neverwant to be pregnant, some told me...
I met some ladies with more years than I was... they did not wish kids either.
xxx
Then I moved to Argentina, 1993, I was almost 50 years old.
A year later, met a poor girl, Marcela, a single mother of a 5 years old boy.
She survived by dancing tango at night, going to UBA University during day.
She was extremely young for me... she was 25, I was 51...
I married her, adopted her son (our son now), she graduated from UBA.
She became a well known tango dancer, tango teacher, world tours.
We later even adopted a little girl together...
She wanted a family, I wanted a family. Call me an old dirty man.
I am 60 now, she is 34... (she tells 29 to everyone...) -
xxx
You guys do not know the essence of human nature.
Love is a partner for life, and a family.
Our age difference has never been a problem.
I left my country, I even speak Spanish at all times at home.
I noticed most of our friends are in my age group, 50s and 60s, not her age group.
She likes culture, education, arts, music, dance, like me, lots in common.
She does not know anything about airlines... except duty free perfumes.
Age is only a difference factor that is only a consideration on the first date.
Our kids are the most important thing in our life.
xxx
So, you guys think with your zippers or whatever you have in your brains.
Deep down South, in the land of the Gauchos, and tango, I smile...
xxx
Good luck to you all, and happy contrails  
(s) Skipper

Ahhhhh B747Skipper, your wisdom and eloquence with words never ceases to draw my attention and make me smile  
I think I could listen to you for days oh wise one.

SWA TPA

Steve,

Some day when your walking down the street someone will jump up and say I'm the one for you.



Just make sure she is 18 1st!!!!!!! Sorry babe you know me to well

Talk with ya when I get home from SXM!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't thing age is really important. The main issue is wheter this woman has an interest in you I believe. I also feel that if you spend time with her and there is something there it will naturally come forth. My boyfriend is 1 year younger than me and I never used to be interested in younger men at all but I don't even think about that. Of course now I'm 31 and not 21 so he's matured and if I'd met him when I was 21 he wouldn't have been what he is now. It doesn't even sound like the age difference you are speaking of is all that big so I don't even see that as an issue. Alrighty then....let's sit back and wait for KROC to add something to this post about my boyfriend making over $100K a year.

If your boyfriend were older, he'd stand a better chance of making over $100K a year.

Signed, KROC

Nature has it's own little joke it plays...if a woman is in her late 20's or early 30's and hooks up with a guy who is in his mid to early 40's....He's still hot to trot, although not as much as a guy in his early 20's. But a woman reaches her sexual peak in her 40's....by that time, the guy is in his late 50's and early 60's and his "drive" stands a good chance of suffering a bit of a decline. So then SHE's hot to trot, and he's the one with the headache. Although this observation was made in the "pre-viagra" days....things may have changed a bit.

Sophie. You don't need me to make mention of the fact your boyfriend makes over a hundred grand a year. You've already made it clear that you only date guys in that income bracket, so its a given. Now, if you were going to wait for me to mention your golden shovel, then you would be onto something.

When I was in the Navy, I once dated a gal who was 13 years my senior, I was 19 at the time. It was out great, it was a pure sexual relationship, we were both in our primes, life was great. We broke up when she realized that I dating on the side, sheeesh, I told her. Older gals are great, they know what they want, at least for a short time, then they revert back to form.

I generally date older women. Between the ages of 18-22 (current), most ladies I've dated have been int heir early 30s, with 38 being the oldest.

Most girls my age are too much into partying and stuff, and since I'm a boring bookworm, that's not my style. I also worked at an office for a few years where I was the youngest guy by a decade, which gave me an advantage.

I'm currently dating a 27 year old lady, who is sitting next to me in class (a college computer class). We click well and have a great time.

Remember, age is merely a reflection of that amount of time a person has spent on this earth and is in now way a measurement of one's talents, abilities or maturity.

If Sohpie can get rich guys even though it's obvious that she's a gold digger, I bet she takes it in the browneye.

And BigPhil just goes yard.



A different angle of this blast.

Yeah, too bad you cant use your Piazza pics when someone goes yard. You have to wait until someone strikes out, then your playing Piazza's game.  

MSYtristar,
My brother recently got engaged to a girl 8 years older than him. He's currently 26, she's 34 (they were 24 and 32 respectively when they started dating). But they get along fine, obviously, and I am happy for them. Point? It'll happen with someone; age shouldn't and won't be a defining factor. Best of luck.
~Vik

One thing to keep in mind is that as a single person (male or female) gets older, they become more set in their ways and less willing to try to fit into someone's life - they expect everyone to conform to meet their specifications.

My ex-girlfriend and I were together for a year. When we met, I was 29 and she had just turned 36. The age difference wasn't the problem; her attitude was. She'd become set in her ways, and very cynical from having been burned in previous relationships.

As I mentioned, we lasted a year, but it should have been even less. I stuck it out with her out of love, even though I was unhappy with her inflexible manner and "my way or the highway" style.

Will all older women be this way? Certainly not. However, you have to keep in mind that an older woman will typically have something of a superiority complex when dating a younger man - and if she looks down on you in that way, you'll never ever command her respect.

Sophie. You don't need me to make mention of the fact your boyfriend makes over a hundred grand a year. You've already made it clear that you only date guys in that income bracket, so its a given. Now, if you were going to wait for me to mention your golden shovel, then you would be onto something.

I could post his W2 on here to prove you 100% wrong but I don't consider how much money a person makes anyone's business but their own.

Golden shovel? As a matter of fact I seem to be making more than he does now so maybe he has one. I think KROC is mistaking who I am now for who I WAS several years ago.

Damn, I wanted to see her reply to Bigphils comment.

Sophie, what did you expect? You baited him, you attention whore  


Skipper, much respect man. Much respect.


I love older women.

MSY,

"I just can't help thinking about how happy I would be with her. And about how happy I could make her. But the cold truth of the matter is that it is crystal clear that we are just friends, and will always be so."

That's your problem right there man. I hate to be the messenger of bad news, but that attitude right there is killing you. You're placing WAY WAY WAY too much importance on ONE women. You're between 21-25 (according to your profile) - so enjoy your youth... get out, meet new women. You have any idea how many other 30+ women are out there? Date some of them, and make sure SHE knows about it. And the next time she calls to do something, say you're busy.


_ _

Pink-Eye, Brown-Eye... they all blend together if you make over $100,001 a year  

-Rob

Wait, not to get off the subject, but there's a HUGE difference between pink-eye and brown-eye. Only one's contagious.

Big Phil

Your the man, good reason for dating older chicks, plus you know that the sex is good?!

Sophie. What the heck happened? I thought you wanted that pilot instructor guy. Don't tell me HE makes 100k a year.. No Friggin Way..

Chris