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Matt D
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How To Achieve Peace

Sun Aug 22, 2004 8:00 am

Ok...after doing a lot of thinking, and soul searching, I've come to change my mind on a number of key issues.

First, I think we need to tackle the root causes of all the problems in the world today. You do that, and we'll be living in Utopia.

First is do away with all countries and create a One Nation Earth.

It seems like territorial disputes and nationalism and pride are directly or indirectly responsible for so many wars: Palestine and Israel, US and Mexico, India and Pakistan, Airbus and Boeing, Ford and BMW. You name it.

Eliminate the borders and suddenly there's nothing left to fight about. And we already have a governing body in place: The United Nations, where no one is special, no one is better than any others; the United States vote counts just as much as Madagascars. Instead of just being a group of diplomats who really don't do much, and hand over all control of the world to that body.
And the "illegal immigration" problem?

Will be a problem no more. Since there will be no national boundaries, anyone can go wherever they like, no questions asked.

Abolish Christianity.

As many people would also have you think, Christianity has been behind more discord, more arguments, more wars than anything else. Just get rid of it.

That doesn't mean that we have to get rid of ALL religions. Just Christianity.

Anyone can worship whoever they want-Allah, Buddha, Mother Earth, any god (lower case "G"), whoever. As long as it's not God (upper case "G") or Jesus Christ.

Once we have established the One Nation Earth, do away with all hard money and adopt a common E-money system. Everything will be strictly done electronically, perhaps with a chip or invisible tattoo embedded in your hand or wrist. Not only will it be the ultimate in convenience (no cash to count, no jars of coins, no money laundering, theft, embezzlement, or wallets and purses to lose).

Along with that, establish standard wages for everyone. Whether you are a doctor or a fry chef, everyone gets the same. And everyone will be guaranteed a job of some sort. Yes, I realize that some professions like engineers and doctors get higher salaries because of their skills and schooling. But the fact of the matter is that one who goes into such fields should be doing it to serve Mankind and not to profit. Plus, with one common nation, currency, and fixed wages, there will be no reason to engage in profiteering, which as we all know have the nasty side effects of cost cutting, job slashing, and fostering a general "screw you...gimme some money" attitude.

Why should some people have money to cleanse their loins while others eat from dumpsters?

Forget about job status, efforts, schooling, etc.

It's a decent humanity issue.

In doing this, we will solve a gaggle of other problems:

With everyone now making a decent wage, there will be no more homeless, which leads to poverty, which leads to crime, and so on. No more resentment, envy, or jealousy. Everyone will be the same.

How could anyone be opposed to that?

We have this one and only one planet to live on. And in many places, it's been all but irreversibly polluted. We really should just in one fell swoop, outlaw all internal combustion engines. Sure, it might be tough for some people initially. But humans are incredibly resilient and adaptable to change-especially when they are faced with no other options. The auto manufacturers for decades have been promising electric powered vehicles. Where are they?

When they have no other choice, they will start producing them.

What's more important?

Horespower or clean air?

Is it fair that some people have to walk or take a bus when others have one, or two, or three of their own cars to drive?

Every man and woman on this planet has a right to be mobile and go wherever they want, whenever they want. Once all gas and oil powered vehicles have been siezed and melted down, everyone will be able to purchse their own clean, green electric vehicle (since everyone will be paid the same, everyone will be able to afford one).

Also, while on the topic of the environment, no one, and I mean NO ONE will be permitted to enter any of the designated wilderness areas, included, but not limited to beaches, forests, jungles, swamps, estuarys, rivers and lakes, and deserts, for any reason.

The best and only way to ensure that these fragile environments are allowed to survive is to simply stay off of them. Leave them alone. Don't go there. We have our established human habitats (cities) where we've decimated wildlife. Let them have their habitats, and humans are off limits to those.

Confiscate and destroy all weapons. This means everything from two round Derringer Specials to ICBM's loaded with uranium warheads.

Weapons serve no useful purpose. You take them away, you take away the desire and temtation to use them, not to mention using the threat of using them to coerce people into doing things they don't want to do.

While in the process of doing this, it is high time we address and correct our mistakes of the past.

I would start with the Black population and slavery. Granted, it happened more than 100 years ago, but that doesn't mean that people aren't both suffering and living the life of Riley as a result of that institution. Before we adopt the common currency, I would urge to see cash payouts of no less than a million dollars to every black man, woman, and child. They deserve it. Giving "reperations" in the form of better schools, shopping centers, etc. just isn't enough. They still won't really be in control of the situation. The only way to totally let them have what they are owed is to give THEM the money and let THEM decide what they want to do with it.

Next, homosexuality is not "deviant" behavior. It is not an "aberration". It's a shame at how many of our gay and lesbian friends have been mocked, ridiculed, belittled, shamed, beaten, and killed for the free expression of a natural bodily urge.

I'm not sure how we can "repay" them, but we can at least start by mandating that "homosexuality is nothing different from heterosexual" be taught in schools.

It can be argued, with some plausibility that non-conformity, free thought, and disagreement are also major enemies of peace. Granted, few people have fought or gone to war just for the sake of fighting and going to war, that's not good enough.

It's real simple. You either follow this new doctrine, or else face imprisonment. We have fought too many battles. Peace and harmony must stand above all else.



 
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RE: How To Achieve Peace

Sun Aug 22, 2004 8:14 am

I cannot believe i just spend 3 minutes of my life reading this crap. Here's a few kittens to cheer me up.

 
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RE: How To Achieve Peace

Sun Aug 22, 2004 8:19 am

I cannot believe i just spend 3 minutes of my life reading this crap.

I can't believe someone actually spent time writing it. Sounds like a mixture of Marx, Lenin, and Hitler.
 
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RE: How To Achieve Peace

Sun Aug 22, 2004 9:10 am

I can't believe someone actually spent time writing it. Sounds like a mixture of Marx, Lenin, and Hitler.

Welcome to the world according to MattD.
In Civil Aviation, we have armchair airlines CEO. Here, we have armchair Earth Rulers.

Juts a question, though... abolish Christianity... is that because most illegal aliens in California are Christians ?

Oh, and... at that time, I should be sound sleeping (have a long solo cross country flight tomorrow), so, I think you have earned an eye blink by your favourite in the engine one eyed cat :



Cheers,

707
 
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RE: How To Achieve Peace

Sun Aug 22, 2004 9:56 am

Horespower or clean air?

Horsepower.  Big grin
 
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RE: How To Achieve Peace

Sun Aug 22, 2004 10:06 am

Am I the only one who thinks that Dc10guy got a really good grammar checker and stole Matt D's username? This just doesn't sound like good ol' BURN THE ILLEGALS Matt D.
 
Lono
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RE: How To Achieve Peace

Sun Aug 22, 2004 10:22 am

Ha what a crock!!!

everyone knows peace is derived from superior fire power....
 
Klaus
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RE: How To Achieve Peace

Sun Aug 22, 2004 10:23 am

Yes, he is mocking you...  Wink/being sarcastic
 
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RE: How To Achieve Peace

Sun Aug 22, 2004 11:36 am

MattD, what drugs are you currently on?
 
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RE: How To Achieve Peace

Sun Aug 22, 2004 12:18 pm


Abolish Christianity.

As many people would also have you think, Christianity has been behind more discord, more arguments, more wars than anything else. Just get rid of it.


Name one in the modern era of 1780-2004. You might want to look into the Catholic teachings of social justice before you write-off the single largest religion that many people, including myself, devout our lives to-

http://www.osjspm.org/cst/ ... I would follow the "major themes" link to get a good understanding

Anyone can worship whoever they want-Allah, Buddha, Mother Earth, any god (lower case "G"), whoever. As long as it's not God (upper case "G") or Jesus Christ.

Hate to break it to you, but Allah and God with a capital G are the same figure... and Jesus Christ happens to be one of the most sacred prophets to the Mouslim faith.

Juts a question, though... abolish Christianity... is that because most illegal aliens in California are Christians ?

Not just Christian... but Catholic *gasps*... oh and Mexican Insane

Granted, few people have fought or gone to war just for the sake of fighting and going to war

Yeah right.... forget something called World War I ?!

It's real simple. You either follow this new doctrine, or else face imprisonment. We have fought too many battles.

Alright.... peace by force... real civil Big grin

Before we adopt the common currency, I would urge to see cash payouts of no less than a million dollars to every black man, woman, and child.

Why? Not a single person alive today can even be a 4th generation decendent of a slave and a good number of the black population today (the last 1-2 generations) have never experienced a day of segregation. You wouldn't happen to be black now would you?

If we are going to give mass cash payouts... why not redistribute the wealth in this country and elimante poverty rather than give blatantly racist compensation?

[Edited 2004-08-22 05:27:37]

[Edited 2004-08-22 05:28:15]
 
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SSTjumbo
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RE: How To Achieve Peace

Sun Aug 22, 2004 12:58 pm

We know what I'm about to fill two paragraphs up with, so I'll just save bandwith.



However, think what you wish. World peace ain't coming anytime soon. It's going to take a cosmic impact for all of us to get on the same page.

[Edited 2004-08-22 06:00:21]
 
MD-90
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RE: How To Achieve Peace

Sun Aug 22, 2004 1:18 pm

World peace ain't coming until you-know-who returns.


MattD, that is probably the best example of being facetious that I have read in a long time.
 
Alpha 1
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RE: How To Achieve Peace

Sun Aug 22, 2004 1:24 pm

Abolish Christianity.

The one chance, I believe, that the earth has, is to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ, not in abandoning it. And getting rid of the Christian faith would be to abandon His teachings.

And, last time I checked, it wasn't Christians who are committing acts of terrorism against the world in the name of their faith.

Abolishing religion isn't the answer. Aboloshing those who pervert and twist it is PART of the answer.

 
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Dfwrevolution

Sun Aug 22, 2004 3:22 pm

the single largest religion that many people, including myself, devout our lives to-

Ha! Not even close buddy! Try again...
 
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RE: How To Achieve Peace

Sun Aug 22, 2004 5:59 pm

World peace ain't coming until you-know-who returns.

ELVIS?
 
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RE: How To Achieve Peace

Sun Aug 22, 2004 10:40 pm

MattD, I'm guessing you didn't get that Michael Savage was joking when he made that section on his Savage Nation-Volume One Cd called that "Un-Savage Nation."

And, last time I checked, it wasn't Christians who are committing acts of terrorism against the world in the name of their faith.

Gee Alpha 1, I thought you believed that the President was using his faith in invading Iraq?

Signed,
Matthew
 
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RE: How To Achieve Peace

Sun Aug 22, 2004 10:48 pm

The one chance, I believe, that the earth has, is to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ, not in abandoning it. And getting rid of the Christian faith would be to abandon His teachings

Totally agree with you Alpha 1.

MEA310
 
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RE: How To Achieve Peace

Sun Aug 22, 2004 11:32 pm

Hey MattD,

I'm descended from the slaves of the Ottoman Empire. Does that mean the Turkish government has to give me $1,000,000. How about the Jews who are descended from Jewish slaves through-out history? Which of the nations that held them in bondage gives each of them the cash. How about the Romans who held whoever they conquered as slaves? Should the Italians pay-out? What about the Greeks that held their conquests as slaves?

Everyone gets the same pay? What about your blacks with $1,000,000 each. Now they are superior in status because they have more money.

By the way, why have money at all if everyone would have the same?

You know: Sometimes you have to tell stupid people that they are stupid.
 
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RE: How To Achieve Peace

Sun Aug 22, 2004 11:36 pm

It's TRUE that Christianity has been the cause for wars MANY times throughout history, but I think the DIFFERENCE of religion has also done a great deal of damage...

Those Sucking on God's nuts can't just put it down, I'm not saying it's terrible, but just the thought of a Missionary (any religion - which most are either Christian or JW) makes me angry enough to slam the door in their face...

BTW - I LOVE how everyone just bashes you instead of arguing their points, calling you a moron and the such... You took time to write out what YOU think, and all they do is BASH without an explanation... *note sarcasm*
 
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RE: How To Achieve Peace

Mon Aug 23, 2004 12:15 am

Peace does not exist, can not exist. It is merely the absence of war.

It is like dark, which is the absence of light. There is no such thing as actual darkness only your inability to see the light.

There is peace all over the world today. You just have to understand that "all over the world" does not have to include each and every square foot of the world. So I say again, there is peace.

No one has shot at me in quite a while. I'd bet that no one has shot at you ever. So quit your bitching and enjoy your life. When the war actually comes to you, trust me, you'll notice.

 
SlamClick
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RE: How To Achieve Peace

Mon Aug 23, 2004 12:33 am

Matt D you are seriously deranged. The fixes you suggest are far worse than war itself.

Money: If you took all the earnings of all the human beings on the whole planet and divided it equally among all the human beings on the whole planet the standard of living would be somewhere between the southern Sahara and maybe Haiti. Those are the numbers. The handful of Michael Jordans do not even bump the average up enough to support another Starbucks in Kano Nigeria.

Oh, but not to worry. Since you'd also do away with internal combustion engines there won't be any income to redistribute.

What you are proposing is not an original idea by the way. Pol Pot tried it in Cambodia a few years ago.
 
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RE: How To Achieve Peace

Mon Aug 23, 2004 12:38 am

Yhmfan, that is one of the best pictures ever. Where did you get it?

Alpha1, this is probably the first time I agree with you on something.
 
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RE: How To Achieve Peace

Mon Aug 23, 2004 6:35 pm

Golf anyone?


 
Matt D
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RE: How To Achieve Peace

Tue Aug 24, 2004 9:33 am

Every one of you, except for MD-90 swallowed it hook, line, and sinker.

Every one of you.

It's utterly amazing that so many people of you preach the hard left line (i.e. Marxism and Euro-Socialism), and then when all of a sudden a known conservative like me not only parrots your own ideas, but runs with them and expounds on them.

I couldn't stop laughing when I saw how many known left wingers in here read this and said "whoa" and backpeddled as much as you did.


Amazing....

isn't it?
 
KROC
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RE: How To Achieve Peace

Tue Aug 24, 2004 10:18 am

And Matt D drops the hammer on 1, 2, oh about thirty people. Props to him and props to MD-90 for having the General Lee in Park, and not biting.

 
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RE: How To Achieve Peace

Tue Aug 24, 2004 10:37 am

I was and still remain a conservative. However, you have issues as of late Matt. Then again, someone had to explode  Sleepy.
 
Matt D
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RE: How To Achieve Peace

Tue Aug 24, 2004 10:44 am

Such as?
 
SSTjumbo
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RE: How To Achieve Peace

Tue Aug 24, 2004 10:50 am

Misused semantics courtesy of me. You lost your cool big time Matt. Then again, that was a nice prank  Big thumbs up.
 
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Matt D

Tue Aug 24, 2004 8:41 pm

"Yes, he is mocking you...  Wink/being sarcastic" (post 7)

Nothing against a nice debate, but it was a little too obvious...
 
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RE: How To Achieve Peace

Wed Aug 25, 2004 1:04 am

You sure Klaus? Maybe Matt's life isn't as happy as it could be?  Big grin
 
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RE: How To Achieve Peace

Wed Aug 25, 2004 1:14 am

KROC... you have got to have some picture in your repertoire that suits this situation...

Jake
 
KROC
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RE: How To Achieve Peace

Wed Aug 25, 2004 1:29 am

Stand by, I should have it ready to go later today.
 
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Kroc

Wed Aug 25, 2004 2:12 am

KROC: You sure Klaus? Maybe Matt's life isn't as happy as it could be?

Well, I guess mocking everyone with this thread starter has made him a little happier already... So all seems well at the time.  Wink/being sarcastic

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