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gkirk
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The Canadian Air Force?

Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:50 pm

 Laugh out loud
 
Springbok747
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Tue Feb 01, 2005 8:50 pm

That looks more like the JASDF. That bike looks cool BTW...I'd love to have one like that  Big thumbs up
 
aerobalance
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:16 am

Canada has an Air Force?
 
CanadianNorth
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:26 am

Yep, thats about the size of it...


(Actually we do have a proper Air Force with F-18s and Hercs and such, its small compared to say the United States', but it still counts.)





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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:32 am

That's almost as imposing as the Canadian Navy...
 
aa61hvy
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Wed Feb 02, 2005 1:27 am

Here is a picture of the Canadian Navy doing some exercises.

 
skysurfer
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Wed Feb 02, 2005 3:34 am

Haha that's a good pic of the bike, even better one of the Canadian navy! I've only been in Canada for a little under 3 years now but i get embarrased by the state the armed forces are in.....years of defence budget cuts and lots of commitments have stretched the CF to the point where i really think we're no longer effective. Of course, with our 'southern' neighbours being where they are many people think we don't need a large armed forces seeing as the americans can defend us if needs be. But with the equipment we do have, ie ageing C-130's, F-18's, Sea Kings, submarines that don't wanna work etc etc i wonder what these people are thinking. The CF are being strangled to death while being overworked, and it's about time we seriously (and i mean seriously) undertook a massive, widesweeping review and get our acts together.....unfortunately until something disastrous happens ie, equipment failing at critical times causing deaths, then i don't think anything will be done.
Oh wait, maybe the resson why hospitals are having their budgets cut is because the government is gonna give the money to the armed services! lol

Cheers
 
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Wed Feb 02, 2005 3:50 am

First off that bike is awesome. Secondly, as far as the Canadian Armed Forces go. Canada doesn't have many enemies and any that it has are shared with the U.S. Therefore anyone invading Canada would have to go through the US first, and that probably is not going to happen any time soon. I agree that it is important to have updated equipment, but the size just isn't necessary.
 
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:20 am

The advantage of being a RCAF pilot is you get to spend all day up in a Beaver.
 
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Wed Feb 02, 2005 6:47 am

anything's better than the French armed forces (if you would call it that)  Smile
 
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:59 am

A rice grinding Airplane?
 
airplay
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:18 am

Sigh.....

Canada has no enemies. The US has plenty. That is why nobody attacks Canada. It has nothing to do with "going through the US first". The US has been attacked by its enemies with no such fear.

The Canadian armed forces have an excellent and proud history. I know you guys have internet access....check it out some time.

We have suffered some reduction in troops....like recently in Afghanistan when the US air force decided to thin out our troops by bombing them. But I guess that sort of humor is inappropriate....
 
L-188
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:21 am

Canada has no enemies. The US has plenty. That is why nobody attacks Canada.

Didn't we sack York in 1812?
 
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:01 am

Oh how cute, I'll have to get me one of those.
 
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:11 am

oh jesus...don't show that to my family (especially those in cold lake, ab)
 
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:15 am

Got it,

Canadian Air Farce

Thanks
 
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:19 am

Didn't we sack York in 1812?

ya sure did....but the revenge was sweet  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


Andreas  Big thumbs up
 
L-188
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:19 am

That red dot.

That's an aiming point isn't it?

But the fact is that Canada has not had a true air force since the military unified in what 57?
 
caribb
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:06 am

True... now we've resorted to strapping on snowballs under the wings of Canada Geese and dropping them in the general direction of the enemy... basically ourselves. LOL... uh, at least I thought they were snowballs... Wow!

[Edited 2005-02-02 02:14:26]
 
L-188
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:03 am

ya sure did....but the revenge was sweet

Last time I checked, Jackson won the Battle of New Orleans.

 
greasespot
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:26 pm

Common everyone knows that is a fake....Canada does not have any F-16's...lol

GS
 
LAS757300
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Wed Feb 02, 2005 1:04 pm

anything's better than the French armed forces (if you would call it that)

France is the only nation other than the US to provide direct air support to ground troops in Afganistan.
 
LY744
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Wed Feb 02, 2005 1:32 pm

That's not an F-16 believe it or not (and no, I'm not referring to the bike!).

As for the RCAF, realistically, it's not in that bad of a shape, especially compared to many other 'liberal' western countries. If the CC-130 and CH-124 (dreaded Sea King) fleets were upgraded/replaced and replaced respectively, we would have a model modern air force. The remaining 80 CF-18s may be ageing but are still more than adequate for the country's needs (and have plenty of room for affordable upgrades to improve both A-A and A-G capabilities, I'm thinking HMDS+HOB SRAAM, AMRAAM, JDAM...). The CH-146 and CH-149 fleets are both very young, as well as the CC-150 and CC-144s. The entire trainer fleet (leased AFAIK) are also on par or better than any NATO member's, including the U.S. This leaves us with the CP-140/A, Dash-8, Buffalo and Otter fleets, which although somewhat ageing are still well suited for their missions.

Let the ridicule continue...


LY744.
 
skyservice_330
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Wed Feb 02, 2005 2:25 pm

"ya sure did....but the revenge was sweet"

"Last time I checked, Jackson won the Battle of New Orleans."


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the revenge being referred to is when we burned down Washington and the White House.

 
LH423
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:30 pm

For the last time people....it was the English. Sure, it was the English living in Canada who later became Canadians but the fact is...it was the ENGLISH who burnt down the White House. I mean, when we talk about the French and Indian wars here in the States we talk about the French and English at war, not the Québécois and Americans!  Smile Same premise. The war happened before the US and Québec existed so to use modern names for places that didn't technically exist at the time is incorrect. Canada didn't exist as a nation until 1867 under the British North America Act. So let it go!  Smile

LH423

[Edited 2005-02-02 08:32:10]
 
L-188
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:31 pm

France is the only nation other than the US to provide direct air support to ground troops in Afganistan.

Are you sure about that. I think I remember reading something about trying to get a dutch F-16 out of a mine field at the end of the Kabul airport after it overran.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the revenge being referred to is when we burned down Washington and the White House.

They where going to redecorate it anyway. You just did the demolition work for free.

LY744.

The general problem with the Canadian Forces is that they tend to order equipment after other countries have developed newer models and they hold on to it way too long.

Also they tend to buy a lot of something, say Sea Kings, have then delivered over a short time, and then they all wear out at the same time, causing a crisis.
 
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:32 pm

At least we don't wear skirts Gkirk  Big grin

 
ANCFlyer
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:52 pm

Sigh.....

Canada has no enemies. The US has plenty. That is why nobody attacks Canada. It has nothing to do with "going through the US first". The US has been attacked by its enemies with no such fear.

We have suffered some reduction in troops....like recently in Afghanistan when the US air force decided to thin out our troops by bombing them. But I guess that sort of humor is inappropriate....


Airplay, you can always be counted on to show your . . . .well, never mind - I'd rather not get deleted or banned. . . . you get the sentiment . . . geez, grow up will you.

On a lighter note - the Canadian Forces folk I have met are outstanding, superior soldiers and airmen. Kudos . . .




[Edited 2005-02-02 08:54:10]
 
QANTASforever
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Wed Feb 02, 2005 5:52 pm

Aren't the Canadian forces not titled "Royal" anymore?

I seem to remember a former Prime Minister removing all royal military titles.

QFF
 
LY744
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Thu Feb 03, 2005 2:40 am

The Netherlands is definetely one country that provided AS to the coalition in Afghanistan, their sister European F-16 operators (referring to Belgium, Denmark, Norway, not Portugal and Italy) might have pitched in too on a rotating basis.


LY744.
 
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:39 am

Airplay, you can always be counted on to show your . . . .well, never mind

Accuracy? Knowledge of facts? If my post has errors please share. Otherwise pound sand....
 
NWADC9
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Thu Feb 03, 2005 4:50 am

"That red dot.

That's an aiming point isn't it?"
No, that's the Japanese Air Force symbol.

Hey, that F-16 has training wheels! Laugh out loud

"Canada has an Air Force?"
Yeah, they're mostly modified butterflies and moths, but they sorta get the job done Big grin
 
ANCFlyer
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Thu Feb 03, 2005 5:01 am

Accuracy? Knowledge of facts? If my post has errors please share. Otherwise pound sand....

Well, hero, it's not your facts or accuracy that is the problem . . . it's your delivery. That sucks . . . it always does, probably always has, probably always will. But that's a character flaw on your part that I'm sure you can't overcome.

There was nothing humorous about the bombing of the Canadian Forces by US Forces. Your sorry, insensitive, characteristically callous remarks don't even pay homage to your own loss . . . .

Pity, one day perhaps you'll grow up.
 
airplay
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Thu Feb 03, 2005 5:54 am

There was nothing humorous about the bombing of the Canadian Forces by US Forces. Your sorry, insensitive, characteristically callous remarks don't even pay homage to your own loss . . . .

That was entirely the point. This entire thread is a callous insensitive representation of a country with a proud military history.

And how exactly am I supposed to state that Canada has no enemies and the US has lots? How would you respond to Phxairfan's statement?

You scold me for my "delivery" but totally ignore the insensitive damaging and inaccurate statements from the rest. Sounds like you just don't like it when I'm right....
 
ANCFlyer
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Thu Feb 03, 2005 6:09 am

And how exactly am I supposed to state that Canada has no enemies and the US has lots? How would you respond to Phxairfan's statement?

I would say he's right - no response necessary. Canada has few, if any enemies. The US has plenty. What's your point?

You scold me for my "delivery" but totally ignore the insensitive damaging and inaccurate statements from the rest. Sounds like you just don't like it when I'm right....

Please note my earlier remark in this thread . . . On a lighter note - the Canadian Forces folk I have met are outstanding, superior soldiers and airmen. Kudos . .
 
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Thu Feb 03, 2005 6:36 am

Re: NWADC9
If anyone ever deserved a hit-and-miss picture...

Again, no F-16s in that picture.


LY744.
 
L-188
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Thu Feb 03, 2005 6:45 am

I thought the "Royal" got dropped when the services unified.


Canada has no enemies. The US has plenty. That is why nobody attacks Canada.

Well if I had been governer of Alaska during the salmon wars in the 1990's I would have bombed Prince Rupert.

The mounties can't break up the blockade of the Matansuka because the canadian fishermen have a right to protest my arse.

Last time I checked, a blockade was an act of war. Which is why JFK was so carfull to call the blockade of Cuba a "quarantine".
 
airplay
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:15 am

Are you suggesting that the US is an enemy of Canada L-188?
 
mdsh00
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:19 am

Are you suggesting that the US is an enemy of Canada L-188?

Just chill and take a joke Airplay. This thread was started over something funny, not to bash Canada.
 
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:24 am

"Last time I checked, a blockade was an act of war. Which is why JFK was so carfull to call the blockade of Cuba a "quarantine".

Hey L-188 -- I thought we fleshed out the salmon wars in another thread.

Since the Matanuska was in a Canadian port, you can't call it a blockade. It was an illegal vessel seizure. For it to be a blockade, they would have had to go surround it in Ketchikan.

Seizing Canadian citizens in transit through US airports and deporting them to Syria -- that's an act of war. And I know with your superior knowledge of the War of 1812 that you'll remember that seizing folks on ships was one of the main reasons the US went to war against Great Britain.

"For the last time people....it was the English. Sure, it was the English living in Canada who later became Canadians but the fact is...it was the ENGLISH who burnt down the White House."

LH423, If you carry that argument through to its logical conclusion, the U.S. Revolutionary War pitted the English against Hessian mercenaries -- and the English won! BTW there were lots of Canadians fighting in the War of 1812, and lots of First Nations, too. Not sure if any of them struck matches at the White House, but they performed well on the Niagara Peninsula when it was important to win.

[Edited 2005-02-02 23:37:24]
 
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:30 am

"This entire thread is a callous insensitive representation of a country with a proud military history."

Airplay, I mean the Canadian Military no disrespect, as they were right beside us on D-Day and are still by our side in Afghanistan. My comment was just meant to explain that Canada has no need for a large military force. You are friendly to pretty much ever nation, and you've got your big brother to the south watching your back.
 
L-188
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:39 am

Relax Airplay.

They haven't made me lord high protector yet.

So I can't go an liberate the people of Alberta yet from their liberal party oppressors in Ottawa.
 
airplay
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:50 am

L-188....I forgot the smiley in my last post. I just don't use enough of those things!

By the way....Alberta doesn't need liberation. They just need an asshole-ectomy of the Kline persuasion...

 Smile
 
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:04 am

About the Royal in RCAF - it's still there. It was never done away with.

My parents were both in the RCAF - without it, they wouldn't have met, and I wouldn't be here.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
 
aseem
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:35 am

those having any doubt should to their official website http://www.airfarce.com
LOL  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Aseem
 
L-188
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Thu Feb 03, 2005 10:58 am

Used to get that show when I was living in North Dakota Aseem.

They where actually pretty funny.

Particularly when they lit into Clinton during Monica-gate.

 
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Fri Feb 04, 2005 3:22 am

LAS757300: France is the only nation other than the US to provide direct air support to ground troops in Afganistan.
L-188: Are you sure about that.

Not sure about that either but a quick look at the centcom websites says:

France was the first country, along with the United States, to have flown bombing missions over Afghanistan in direct support of American ground troops. French forces arrived on the ground as early as 2 December 2001, securing Mazar-e-Sharif.

Today, out of approximately 6300 personnel in ISAF, 1000 belong to the French armed forces. France is thus the United States’ second-largest partner in Afghanistan with a total of 1670 French troops.


http://www.centcom.mil/Operations/Coalition/Coalition_pages/france.htm

http://www.centcom.mil/Operations/Coalition/joint.htm
 
Arrow
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RE: The Canadian Air Force?

Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:31 am

Participation in Afghanistan counts for nothing. Canada has (had?) significant naval units -- 6 warships -- in the Persian Gulf supporting US Navy operations, and I believe one part of the operation is now (or was) commanded by a Canadian naval officer with US ships under his command.

Canada also has troops on the ground -- not many because of the sorry state of our armed forces, but they're engaged. Also some Aurora patrol aircraft were sent there. And I think they've earned some citations from US forces, incredibly.

But we didn't participate in Iraq, for rock-solid reasons as it turns out. That's all we hear about. That's all France hears about, too.

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