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Quoting Newark777 (Reply 1): This crazy woman has the audacity to admit that she just made up stuff about the Americans targeting her and then complain about the Americans making false claims. What a hypocrite. |
Quoting Gary2880 (Reply 3): her origonal statment might have had something to do with the dead guy next to her in that she thought they were trying to kill them? |
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 13): Didn't she say specifically immediately after the shooting that "The Americans purposely shot at me, intentionally tried to kill me", words similar to that? |
Quoting Funflyer (Reply 12): Canadian, enough said. |
Quoting Solnabo (Reply 4): US soldiers: Shoot first, ask later!! |
Quoting Airplay (Reply 14): And now you guys are calling her crazy and trying to erode her credibility when she offers clarification days later. |
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 13): I truly hope the final investigation shows that it was an accident, and if it turns out differently, the responsible parties need to be dealt with. |
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 13): Ahh, but that won't matter to you will it Airplay? Won't matter to that kid Gary2880 either. Same with Solnabo. If it's broken, wrong, dead, shot, screwed up, it's either America's fault or Bush's fault. All your posts are so predictably anti-American I usually just gloss over them anymore. Simply not worth reading, and usually the same old bullshit. |
Quoting JetService (Reply 19): She was not rescued. A ransom was paid and she was released by her captors. |
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 16): Don't put words in my mouth Airplay, don't twist what I've said so it plays into your Anti-American bullshit rhetoric. |
Quoting JetService (Reply 19): She was not rescued. A ransom was paid and she was released by her captors. |
Quoting N5176Y (Reply 22): So to recap: She was targetted for assisination... changed her mind. She was targetted by APV, then tanks, then... changed her mind. She went through all the checkpoints... changed her mind, she stated she went through none. She was assualted with 400 bullets which she picked up in "handfuls off the front seat, then she changed her mind. |
Quoting JetService (Reply 25): OK. But don't pretend there isn't a profound difference between a rescue operation and providing a released hostage a ride home. |
Quoting Airplay (Reply 24): And how exactly is all this a defining moment in this war? That's what I really don't understand. Are you guys (you can include yourself this time ANCFlyer) so disillusioned with the quagmire your government has created and the international embarrassment the US is suffering that you are looking for and little insignificant shred of news that shows a non-American screwing up a tiny bit, without considering the facts and conditions surrounding her original statement? Pathetic.... |
Quoting N5176Y (Reply 27): No Airplay, what we find "pathetic" is people like yourself who believe anyword anybody says so long as it fits your political agenda. |
Quoting N5176Y (Reply 27): Whan its proven to be nothing but baseless lies, you and your cronies change your story in hopes that no one will notice. |
Quoting N5176Y (Reply 27): Sgrena might have been able to publish whatever she wanted without any basis in fact in "Il Manifesto," but in the real world, you have to back up your statements. Since she couldn't she changed it. |
Quoting Gary2880 (Reply 28): get over my age you narrow minded twat |
Quoting JetService (Reply 25): Airplay, most people view a rescue as an operation of force that removes a captive hostage from the custody of the captors against the captors' will; whereas a release is an agreement under certain terms by both parties to hand custody over voluntarily. |
Quoting Solnabo (Reply 4): Codex among triggerhappy US soldiers: Shoot first, ask later!! |
Quoting Gary2880 (Reply 11): i almost agreed with you there i thought you said they are ass's by now i highly doubt they are very well oiled, i bet their all so paranoid they would shoot a passing mosquito incase it was a terrorist |
Quoting Russophile (Reply 34): So what was Jessica Lynch? Wasn't she also going to be handed over to US forces by the Iraqi doctors, but when they tried to do this, the US forces fired upon the ambulance which was carrying her? |
Quoting DL021 (Reply 35): What?? Non-responsive to the issue and attempting to divert attention to something that has no bearing on the issue. |
Quoting Russophile (Reply 36): It has every bearing on the 'issue' -- the 'issue' in this thread basically being what a rescue actually is. So, keeping in the spirit of what this thread has become, was Jessica Lynch rescued? |
Quoting JetService (Reply 37): Edit: Oh and Jessica Lynch was absolutely rescued. She was heroically rescued BY the Iraqi doctors from the hands of the Hussein regime. |
Quoting Airplay (Reply 10): I read the article and I really don't see what the big deal is. Her story hasn't changed. It looks like she is providing clarification. But lets focus on the facts. She was shot, and and a man was killed by American service men. |
Quoting N5176Y (Reply 36): She stated that US forces deliberatly wanted to kill her. I find that highly offensive. |
Quoting N5176Y (Reply 36): Quoting NoUFO (Reply 40): What I don't get is why some of you act as if Mrs Sgrena ruined your party. She stated that US forces deliberatly wanted to kill her. I find that highly offensive. |
Quoting Airplay (Reply 40): Perhaps we should wait until an independant investigation is made before we get all offended. |
Quoting F.pier (Reply 42): Despite italian government declaration, newspapers and TV news said teh amount of the ransom paid is € 6.000.000 I think this is a very bad behavior, because now those people know that when they need money, they can kidnap someone and the ransom payment is sure. By the way, the amount of Simona & Simona rescue (some month ago) is supposed to be of about € 3.000.000 |
Quoting L-188 (Reply 43): Lesson for the Kidnappers, pick up an Italian National, they are profitable. |
Quoting ANCFlyer (Reply 41): Until then, perhaps Airplay you and your anti-American co-conspirators can stand by with your accusations. And I know perfectly well what the label means - and that fact that you use it - or infer it - constantly contrary to your earlier spewing in reply #19. |
Quoting F.pier (Reply 42): By the way, the amount of Simona & Simona rescue (some month ago) is supposed to be of about € 3.000.000 |
Quoting Airplay (Reply 45): Lesson for American nationals. If you're kidnapped, you're gonna die.... |
Quoting Fermarta (Reply 46): And according to an Spanish newspaper on Thursday, the release of two Al - Qaeda members in Jordan. After this incident, the Italian Govt. has said that no more ransoms will be paid, and that the Italian forces in Irak are only responsible for the safety of those working there under their protection. We'll see. |