Another good example is the Texas sodomy law from a few years ago.
Lowrider, I appreciate your ability to argue this issue without turning it into a mudslinging contest. Kudos to you for that.
Let me ensure I understand your position:
You support the idea that gay people who get married in Massachusetts, for example, should have the protections and benefits of marriage bestowed upon them, by default, in every state of the union, yes? You're only taking issue with which states choose to provide marriage licenses?
If that's true, then I really only have to argue with one sentiment you expressed, given that it seems to contradict that:
|Quoting Lowrider (Reply 147):|
Yes it may require some tough choices for some, such as your job. Life is full of tough choices, for gays and straights both. As you mention, it does come down to priorities. I too, have had to turn down jobs I really wanted because my wife was not willing to put up with some of the things that went with them. Welcome to marriage. If you thought you would never have to comprise for the sake of a marriage, you were misinformed.
It is one thing if I have to compromise with my spouse for the sake of our marriage, it's another thing entirely if I have to compromise with the government of the State of *whichever* or, even worse, the US Federal government. Y'see... you, as a straight man, would never be forced not to take a job because your marriage might dissolve due to the state you're living in. If I'm getting married, I don't care what part of the country I'm in... the local authorities had better recognize that legal contract. Regardless of if their morals tell them it's null and void or not.
Take another situation as an example:
I live in a state that issues marriage liscenses to gay couples. My partner and I go to a state that does not for a vacation. I'm toolin' around in my rental car when some kid comes along in his parent's Beemer and t-bones my drivers door at 50 miles an hour. *flash forward a few hours* Now I'm in the hospital... my spouse is worried sick. Oops, too bad... we're legal strangers.
He's not allowed to make decisions about my heatlh care, he's not even allowed to come back to see me. This man that I've developed a life with? He's not allowed to participate at all. Why? Simply because we wanted to go on a little vacation, and we made the error of going to a state where the residents can't see past the bindings of their Bibles.
That, sir, is neither right nor fair.
I'm all for people having strong faith. I vehemently support your right to practice your religion, and to believe in God, and to find comfort in Scripture. I will even go so far as to encourage you to do so, if you find it helps you. I, however, find that it helps me to be with the person I want to be with. I find strength in my romantic relationships, and I'm hoping to find more strength when the "one" comes along some day.
I find it difficult to believe that you lose much by having your kids taught by gay teachers. I'd even venture to say that they probably already have been, or if they havn't, they will. I'd be willing to bet that at some point you've had a coworker who, amazingly enough, did their job, chitchatted with you at the water cooler, and then *gasp* went home to their same-sex partner after work. I have a very hard time understanding how that has detrimented you, your faith, your marriage, or your children. Do you know why I can't understand it? Because I live my life every day. I work with people who share your opinions, I go to school with people who share your opinions, I even have good friends who share your opinions. I have yet to see a good example of my presense destroying some portion of thier life.
If only closed minds came with closed mouths.