Any Of You Types Been To Patagonia?

ConcordeBoy · Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:52 am

I've posted on this before, but not quite in this manner.

Anyways, question's pretty self-explanatory. I want to go soooooo badly, mostly to see the Walking Whales in action.

How'd you enjoy it? How'd you travel around?
Anything you'd like to contribute would be appreciated.

lowrider · Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:17 am

Went there in college, had a great time and would go back in a heart beat. Of course, Continental had DC10's then, so it was a while ago. Mostly I got around via bus, since it was cheap and widely avialable. There is a glacier, whose name escapes me at the moment(begins with a U), but is worth the trip. On the Chilean side, the Torres del Paine are also amazing. Try to go in the fall or early winter. Not as crowded then. Enjoy.

ConcordeBoy · Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:32 am

Quoting Lowrider (Reply 1):
There is a glacier, whose name escapes me at the moment(begins with a U),

...perhaps you're thinking of Ushuaia?

AR1300 · Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:47 am

I just came back from a trip to Bariloche and sourroundings.There are no words to explain the beauty of what I saw.

Mike.

ConcordeBoy · Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:07 am

....any of you seen the Walking Whales in person?!

AR1300 · Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:19 am

What is a walking whale?

mike.

greasespot · Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:14 am

Last winter I did a month long trip to Chile to take a paddle on the Futaleufu river. Amazing experience. btw it is a white water paddle and not that sissy sea kayak stuff..

GS

PPVRA · Wed Mar 23, 2005 12:57 pm

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 2):
...perhaps you're thinking of Ushuaia?

Ushuaia is a town, not a glacier.

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 4):
....any of you seen the Walking Whales in person?!

No idea what that is. I did a google search and came across a weird whale with legs that lived in Pakistan in pre-historic times.... I figured that's not what you were asking for.

Haven't been there myself (yet) but my parents have and they loved it. They too took buses around Chile-Argentina and did not complain about it either.

Hope you go and have a nice trip!

Cheers,

PPVRA

[Edited 2005-03-23 04:58:01]

lowrider · Thu Mar 24, 2005 12:12 am

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 2):
...perhaps you're thinking of Ushuaia?

Thats it. I know its a town, but it is the closest to the glacier. I had a vague memory of the name, but I didn't want to mangle it too badly. Definately was one of the highlights of my trip.

Yu138086 · Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:13 am

Patagonia is the beautiful heartland of Argentina. There are many sights within Patagonia to see. From Buenos Aires just take a plane or bus to where you want to go. The Perito Moreno glaciar is a sight to behold and its beauty does not come cheap but its simply breathtaking. The seven river (siete lagos) route through the Andes mountains is also stunningly beautuful. Very serene and picturesque. If you want to get away from the madness of industrialisation, this is the place to come. If you're a fisherman, you'll catch some of the best trout in the Patagonia lakes. Hunting is also good game. Here is a link to help you...
http://www.travelsur.net/

Cheers Smile

Udo · Thu Mar 24, 2005 1:32 am

Just read Bruce Chatwin's novel. But hey, would be a great chance to try out AR's A342, isn't it? ghost

Regards
Udo

ConcordeBoy · Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:51 am

Quoting PPVRA (Reply 7):
Ushuaia is a town, not a glacier.

I'm aware, however 1) it's a common launch-point for tourists to the Glaciers, 2) it's about the only significant thing down there I could think of that started with a "U" Smile

Quoting AR1300 (Reply 5):
What is a walking whale?

(see below)

Quoting PPVRA (Reply 7):
No idea what that is. I did a google search and came across a weird whale with legs that lived in Pakistan in pre-historic times.... I figured that's not what you were asking for.

Well, if anyone wants to know the true POWER of the Killer Whale... research the "Walking Whales" of Patagonia:

these b!tches are so intense that they will actually inchworm their way out of the water, sometimes completely onto a beach; to grab seals or whatever prey they may be after. They've developed such overall body-strength that they can compress their internal organs to move around on land, in ways that would strand any other whale/dolphin; even other Orcas who lack the breeding/experience for the maneuver.

I've thusfar only seen this on TV, but it's something I hope to observe in person very soon!

AR1300 · Thu Mar 24, 2005 9:19 am

Well, now that I know what it is, Yes, you could see this in Peninsula Valdes, Right next to Puerto Madryn.But you gotta be lucky, is not a common sight.

Quoting Lowrider (Reply 8):
but it is the closest to the glacier. I had a vague memory of the name

Perito Moreno.But that is close to El Calafate, not Ushuaia.O maybe you meant Glaciar Martial....but that one is not so famous.

Quoting Udo (Reply 10):
AR's A342, isn't it?

Nope.You will get A MD, A732 or if you are lucky enough,a A310.
Or Maybe if you go to Rio Gallegos you'll fly the 747 that makes a stop over on it's way to Auckland.

Mike

Derico · Thu Mar 24, 2005 10:31 am

There is a glacier in the Province of Santa Cruz called Uppsala, which sounds like a Swedish name or something, maybe after an explorer or pioneer in the area...

UAL747 · Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:40 am

Went to Chile 2 years ago, but was only in Santiago. Great city though! VERY nice people. It kind of reminds you of a European type town.

UAL

ConcordeBoy · Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:45 am

Quoting UAL747 (Reply 14):
Went to Chile 2 years ago, but was only in Santiago. Great city though! VERY nice people. It kind of reminds you of a European type town.

...what does any of that have to do with this thread?

Lan_Fanatic · Thu Mar 24, 2005 3:25 pm

Quoting ConcordeBoy (Reply 15):
...what does any of that have to do with this thread?

Maybe because Patagonia is shared by Chile and Argentina.

Anyway, Patagonia is a great place. But you should get a guide before planning to come down here, as "Patagonia" is not a very defined region, at least in Chile. Foreign guides say that the chilean Patagonia begins in the city of Temuco, but for us, it begins south of Puerto Montt (you should see a map). The chilean side is completely green, filled with forests, fiords and glaciers (probably like British Columbia, Alaska and Norway). From what I know (I might be mistaken), the argentinian Patagonia that is right beside the Andes, is like the chilean side, but if you go closer to the Atlantic ocean, it gets dryer and also with much less trees, with a "african savannah" look.

Also, the argentinian side is more populated, with bigger cities.The chilean side has almost no population, as it is very difficult to connect cities by road (glaciers in the middle).

If you want to see the "walking whales", you should go to Argentinian Patagonia. But I reccomend you to visit both sides...and visit Torres del Paine National Park, near Puerto Natales, in Chile, because it is amazing.

Marambio · Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:22 pm

Quoting Derico (Reply 13):
There is a glacier in the Province of Santa Cruz called Uppsala, which sounds like a Swedish name or something, maybe after an explorer or pioneer in the area...

The Upsala glaciar is named after the Swedish city of Uppsala. Scientist from the University of Uppsala were the ones who basically discovered the glaciar about a century ago. The city's name was adapted onto a somewhat more Spanish-looking spelling, thus the missing p! Smile

The walking wales:

As far as I know there are no walking wales in Patagonia, at least on the Argentine side. This said, thousands of people congregate every year in the Valdez Peninsula to see the Southern Frank Whale (Ballena Franca Austral), a unique specimen that lives near Antarctica and during the winter months goes up to warmer places to reproduce.

The best place to see the Southern Frank Whales is the town of Puerto Madryn, in Chubut province. Puerto Madryn is a touristic hot-spot, so you will find lots of different kinds of accomodations, restaurants and everything you'll need. The city itself has an airport (PMY), served by American Falcon (WK) and LADE (5U) from Buenos Aires. You may also look for flights to nearby airport of Trelew (REL), which gets daily service from Buenos Aires by Aerolíneas Argentinas (AR), LADE and Southern Winds (A4), although due to its current situation I wouldn't book my flights on the latter. Getting from REL to Puerto Madryn takes no time and it usually is cheap.

Anything else you may want to know, I'll be glad to answer your questions.

Saludos,
Marambio

ConcordeBoy · Fri Mar 25, 2005 8:30 am

Quoting Marambio (Reply 17):
As far as I know there are no walking wales in Patagonia, at least on the Argentine side.

Actually, that's the only side upon which they do it.

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