Bush And Castro At The Pope's Funeral

DFWLandingPath · Thu Apr 07, 2005 3:59 pm

On cnn.com there was a list of the world leaders that would be attending the Pope's funeral. On the list were Presidents Bush, 1 and 2, ex-President Clinton, Secretary of State Rice, PM Blair, Prince Charles, and much to my surprise so was good old Fidel Castro. When was the last time that a sitting American President and Castro were in the same room?

Any humerous scenarios/conversations that you could invision between the two should they run into eachother?

I can just imagine Bush and Castro sitting across the aisle from eachother with Bush pouting and Castro chuckling a little at him (for history's sake, not because of the Pope).

Cheers,
DFWLandingPath

aerorobnz · Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:17 pm

I can't wait to see the photos... It's about time, maybe it'll prompt the embargo to be relaxed.

CPH-R · Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:15 pm

Quoting Aerorobnz (Reply 1):
It's about time, maybe it'll prompt the embargo to be relaxed.

Do you really belive that?

aerorobnz · Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:41 pm

Quoting CPH-R (Reply 2):
Do you really belive that?

No, but I'm ever optimistic..

bill142 · Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:46 pm

Castro will make a joke about GWB's weight. He will then go purge and later that day delcare war on Cuba.

What would be funnier is if Castro and Bush were to be seated next to one another.

simo82 · Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:48 pm

Quoting DFWLandingPath (Thread starter):
I can just imagine Bush and Castro sitting across the aisle from eachother with Bush pouting and Castro chuckling a little at him (for history's sake, not because of the Pope).

Don't forget that also President Khatami will be there! Bush, Castro and Khatami in the same room.....that is a proof of a great this Pope Has been!

CIAO
Simo

StowAway · Thu Apr 07, 2005 8:51 pm

Bush: "Uh...Hey...uh..There Castro. How was your trip?"

Castro: "Um....what trip?"

Bush: " ::smirk:: To the floor! HAHA!!! I practiced that all the way down here! Uncle Dick thinks that I am so funny! See you get it? You fe..."

Castro: "Yeah, I got it. Hey, your daughters have made that trip before! What Bar was it in?"

tokolosh · Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:59 pm

They can discuss human rights together!

MD11Engineer · Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:12 pm

I think there might be a chance for talks on the side. I wouldn´t be surprised if some common sense would derive of it.

Jan

MYT332 · Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:16 pm

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 8):
I wouldn´t be surprised if some common sense would derive of it

Are you actually reffering to GWB there? rotfl

ltbewr · Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:11 am

I thought from news reports earlier this week that Castro wasn't going to the funeral service, but had attended a Catholic service at the main Cathredial in Havana. I wonder what changed his mind. I have heard that there will be a representitive of the Iranian government, one that USA Bush called part of the 'axis of evil'. It will be interesting as to how these representives of or heads of state will seated. It will probably be one of the largest single gatherings of them ever and a huge security risk. I hope all goes well.
There probably won't be much time for meetings by various leaders due to the security and time issues, especially by Bush, but others may meet going to/from Rome.

simo82 · Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:26 am

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 10):
It will probably be one of the largest single gatherings of them ever

That's for sure...

This is the list of all the Official national delegations : http://www.corriere.it/Primo_Piano/C...005/04_Aprile/07/delegazioni.shtml

I too hope that everything goes well....It sure is a very hard challange for Walter Veltroni (Mayor of Roma) 4 million people + 200 Head of State and Officials.....

CIAO
Simo

HAWK21M · Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:02 am

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 4):
What would be funnier is if Castro and Bush were to be seated next to one another

Maybe He'd offer him a Cigar Smile

regds
MEL

MD11Engineer · Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:03 am

It is surprising how many non-christian and non-catholic heads of state or representants of other religions are coming.

Jan

Superfly · Fri Apr 08, 2005 2:29 am

MD11Engineer:
I agree.
Bush is part of a flock of Christian extremist that don't like Catholics and think that Catholics don't go to heaven.

Bush is probably the most hated man at this funeral.

DFWLandingPath · Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:04 am

Things just got so much better... Mugabe just showed up in Rome and is apparently going to the funeral... This has got to be unprecedented...

Cheers,
DFWLandingPath

AeroWesty · Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:20 am

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 10):
I thought from news reports earlier this week that Castro wasn't going to the funeral service, but had attended a Catholic service at the main Cathredial in Havana.

Correct. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4411773.stm

Cuba's National Assembly President Ricardo Alarcon will head his country's delegation to the Papal funeral at the Vatican on Friday.

Castro won't be attending.

mham001 · Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:25 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 14):
Bush is part of a flock of Christian extremist that don't like Catholics and think that Catholics don't go to heaven.

Oh really. Source please?

Superfly · Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:27 am

Mham001:
That's how all of those backwards born agains think. Just ask MD-90.

mham001 · Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:33 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 14):
Bush is part of a flock of Christian extremist that don't like Catholics and think that Catholics don't go to heaven.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 18):
That's how all of those backwards born agains think. Just ask MD-90.

Source please?

flybyguy · Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:34 am

Quoting DFWLandingPath (Thread starter):
I can just imagine Bush and Castro sitting across the aisle from eachother with Bush pouting and Castro chuckling a little at him (for history's sake, not because of the Pope).

Actually, Bush may have little personal animosities toward Castro. It is Cuban-Americans that are responsible for the current suffering of the Cuban people, but blame it on Castro. They are so angry that their heredetary land-holdings were redistributed after Batista, that they attempt to punish Castro through economic sanctions. However, it obviously doesn't harm him since he made it to Forbes list of wealthiest rulers.

Before anyone flames me on this, let me be the first to say that we intimately deal with China (a Communist Dictatorship) and contribute billions daily to their economy even as they point their many, many nuclear weapons at us.

I feel that the political sway of Cuban Americans in Washington keeps Cuba in the sorry state that it is in, irregardless of Castro's doing. I think had Cuban-Americans treated Cuba like America does China, then people over there would look favorably upon America and democracy (and capitalism) would come much sooner.

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 13):
It is surprising how many non-Christian and non-catholic heads of state or representatives of other religions are coming.

I am surprised myself at some of the Countries that have sent delegations. This is indicative of the magnitude of influence the Pope had on the world, Catholic and non-Catholic. Looking at the delegation list, his influence very much surprised me.

avek00 · Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:41 am

In all likelihood, the leaders of nations hostile to each other will be respectably positioned away from each other, to include locations and timing of ingress and egress, so it's a total non-issue. The art of diplomacy at its finest.

MD11Engineer · Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:43 am

Quoting Mham001 (Reply 19):
Bush is part of a flock of Christian extremist that don't like Catholics and think that Catholics don't go to heaven.

I had discussions on another list with some American Evangelical Christian fundamentalists, who denied that Roman-Catholics were Christians. For them they were praying to idols.

Jan

TACAA320 · Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:52 am

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 22):
who denied that Roman-Catholics were Christians.

We were the first Christian in the History.

mham001 · Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:52 am

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 22):
I had discussions on another list with some American Evangelical Christian fundamentalists, who denied that Roman-Catholics were Christians. For them they were praying to idols.

And by that theory that Bush is an evengelical, are we to believe that he believes Catholics go to hell?

His personal statements say the opposite.

iakobos · Fri Apr 08, 2005 4:36 am

Matching pairs:

Bill (William Jefferson Clinton) and Charlie (Prince of Wales)
they could discuss their respective experiences and have a good laugh at the merits of their respective lovers

Fidel (if he had been there) and Lech (Walezsa)
they would have shared their flasks of rum and vodka, both would have a flashing red nose at the end of the service

Christodoulos (head of the Greek Orthodox church and to his neck in drug related scandals...among others) and Francisco Santos (VP Colombia)
sure they could make a good deal

Silvan Shalom and Mohamad Khatami
they could compare their nuclear progress

Koffi (Annan) and Silvio (Berlusconi)
the first could learn a few useful tricks from the latter

Viktor (Yuschenko) and Joseph "sweet skin" Kabila (son of the self-appointed President of the absolutely Democratic Congo and himself a President ad genetics)
good advices on healthy diets

Bob (Mugabe) and Tony (Blair)
entertainment in perspective

Le grand Jacques (Chirac) and Condo (leeza Rice)
JC knows quite a few salacious stories, she would turn pink and feel flattered

mia · Fri Apr 08, 2005 4:50 am

I do not think Fidel is going to the funeral. BBC says it is Ricardo Alarcon that will be representing Cuba.

aa61hvy · Fri Apr 08, 2005 5:04 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 14):
Bush is probably the most hated man at this funeral.

Yeah Superfly tell that to the people in Miami..Cuban Missle crisis anyone? You shoud look into moving to Cuba.

Superfly · Fri Apr 08, 2005 8:37 am

Quoting AA61Hvy (Reply 27):
Yeah Superfly tell that to the people in Miami..Cuban Missle crisis anyone? You shoud look into moving to Cuba.

Why?
Because my views aren't in lock step with our current government?

Besides Cuba is too humid for me. Smile

MD11Engineer · Fri Apr 08, 2005 8:46 am

Uh, didnt the bay of pigs fiasco happen before the Cuba crisis and were there not lots of CIA attempts to assasinate Castro and to overthrow his government to bring the old elite back into power?

Jan

aerorobnz · Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:09 am

Quoting TACAA320 (Reply 23):
We were the first Christian in the History.

Actually to be technical Jesus' first gang of disciples and his other followers were. I know Peter was one of them, but at that point in time they were not Roman Catholics. That came well after his death.

MD11Engineer · Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:14 am

I think the oldest Christian community are the Egyptian and Ethopian Coptic Christian.

Jan

JetService · Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:27 am

Quoting Aerorobnz (Reply 30):
Actually to be technical Jesus' first gang of disciples and his other followers were. I know Peter was one of them, but at that point in time they were not Roman Catholics. That came well after his death.

Actually, Jesus was Catholic. I think he was even Irish.

Oldie, but a Goodie:

Castro: Cigar, Mr. Clinton?
President Clinton: No thanks. I prefer a pipe. Cigars are for pussies.

AWspicious · Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:52 pm

Quoting JetService (Reply 32):

Or maybe....

Fidel: "cigar Mr. Clinton"?
Hilary: slaps Bill in the head
Billy: "what did I do?!!"

redngold · Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:56 pm

Let's put this argument to rest, guys. Not every evangelical Protestant Christian thinks that Catholic Christians are going to hell, and not every Catholic Christian thinks that Protestant Christians are going to hell.

Besides, I thought this thread was about Bush and Castro both being at Pope John Paul II's funeral.

redngold

TACAA320 · Fri Apr 08, 2005 1:08 pm

Quoting MD11Engineer (Reply 31):
I think the oldest Christian community are the Egyptian and Ethopian Coptic Christian.

Impossible that was before Jesus Christ era.
http://www.bibarch.com/The%20First%20Christians/Introduction.htm

Quoting Redngold (Reply 34):
Not every evangelical Protestant Christian thinks that Catholic Christians are going to hell, and not every Catholic Christian thinks that Protestant Christians are going to hell.

That decision is up to God only, what a Catholic or Protestant think in that regard, it's not important.

[Edited 2005-04-08 06:14:22]

jpetekyxmd80 · Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:30 pm

Fidel Castro did not go to Italy to attend the funeral.

MD11Engineer · Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:35 pm

But to my surprise, the Dalai Lama was there as well.

Jan

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