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Would Rsmith feel differently if he had a loved one who perished in the 9/11 attacks?......................


No.......


He probably cheered it on!!!

I think NORAD has to work on separating threats from non-threats. A Cessna 152 and a King Air are not threats to national security a JUMBO JET is.

One day some idiot is going to push the big red button on a Cessna and burn down an entire DC block for nothing. Then we'll have the classic tax dollar wasting investigations and inquiries only to find out the obvious 5 years later that the government has no business pointing missile arrays at general aviation aircraft.

Mark my words... THIS WILL happen the way things are going.

And by no means should this message be taken that I am a pansy towards terrorists. I say the government should kill Bin Laden and anyone associated with him without hesitation, trial or remorse. But I believe that our airways are as safe as they are going to get and therefore these false alarms are trying my patience. If only our military had such itchy trigger fingers against Afghan and Iraqi insurrectionists rather than on our own citizens we would have sent those bastards to Hell and had our boys and girls home months ago.

Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 7): I assume you forget that during Clinton's administration, a plane was flown into the White House lawn?

And that plane caused very little damage to the White House.

Quoting Flybyguy (Reply 22):

I knew that sooner or later someone would use its brain on this thread, thanks for restoring my faith in A net.

Best regards
TRB

Quoting Aerobalance (Reply 21): Would Rsmith feel differently if he had a loved one who perished in the 9/11 attacks?...................... No....... He probably cheered it on!!!

Face up to the truth.........three years ago anytime the chips for Bush were down we all the sudden had the terror level raised to ORANGE.....then after awhile we americans just stopped paying attention especially after it was found out that ASScroft wasnt following the guidelines to warrant raising the level........we havent had it raised nationwide for now going on two years.

I am saying that Bush will not stop at anything to draw attention back to him and keep him in front of the public as this STRONG leader....he is anything but that......last night speech was a disgrace to the office in which he holds....people are finally coming around to the fact he has painted himself into a corner of ineffectivness...his approvals will continue to drop as long as he occupies the house on 1600.

Remember the Downing Street Memos

Quoting Rsmith6621a (Reply 25): three years ago anytime the chips for Bush were down we all the sudden had the terror level raised to ORANGE

Hmmm, I am quite interested in some source on this. Just tell me, how exactly would raising the terror level put Bush on the spotlight?

Quoting Rsmith6621a (Reply 25): we havent had it raised nationwide for now going on two years.

Wrong, get your facts straight, loser.

Quoting United737522 (Reply 26): Just tell me, how exactly would raising the terror level put Bush on the spotlight?

Because he is a President who is riding entirely on his " strong leader, fearless in the face of huge terrifying aggression from, er, nobody we can tell you about" image, who uses the fear generated by 9/11 to beat the American people with every chance he gets, because as an actual politician and achiever, his record sucks. Bumping up the "War on Tourism" Alert level generates fear, which is exactly what he wants.

JGPH1A. Are you out of your air raid shelter yet?

If I was responsible for as many deaths and problems as he is, I would be running at the very slightest site of trouble...guilty conscious perhaps?   ...   

Quoting Flybyguy (Reply 21): I think NORAD has to work on separating threats from non-threats. A Cessna 152 and a King Air are not threats to national security a JUMBO JET is.

Um, no.

Consider these things:

1) You have NO IDEA how much the "be responsible for where you fly" mantra is beat into every pilot's head. Busting the Washington ADIZ is the HEIGHT of STUPIDITY for ANYONE. If I busted it, you better believe I'd expect the SAME treatment.

2) A King Air 350 is generally a well-equipped airplane and I'd find it hard to believe if it didn't have any sort of GPS or visual display of airspace, making it even MORE STUPID to bust the airspace. If they were diverting and getting close to the ADIZ, they should've had the common sense to make a 180, cut their losses, land, and wait out the weather. Lack of positional and situational awareness as well as "get-there-itis" at the very least, blatant stupidity at the worst. People that bust the Washington ADIZ for WHATEVER reason have no business flying airplanes, at least until they straighten up and fly with their minds 100% inside the aircraft.

3) You can't honestly say a Cessna 150 is NO danger to ANYTHING. I'm sorry, but you CAN'T. How do you KNOW there is not something malicious in an airplane? How can you make SURE? How can you make absolutely sure that an F-16 sent to intercept a violator doesn't ingest 58 birds on its takeoff run? Why NOT evacuate important office buildings? It caused minimal inconvenience. Sure, it's PROBABLY not. But if something WERE to happen, everyone would be screaming about our fallacy of a national security office.

Some people just like to whine, I guess...