|Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 84):|
When I had to learn in early 1969 that many "Westerners" defended the Israeli terror attack against Beirut International Airport of 28th December 1968 as a "military coup" I realized that I had some problem with many folks in the West. Because THAT act of terror clearly met MY understanding of TERRORISM . While some particular things, the "excusers" than attacked as "terrorism" did NOT .
Well, first off I don't know who called it a military coup, but that might be a translation difficulty. I am assuming English is not your first language, and it is certainly better than my Arabic or Farsi so please take no insult at that. The Israeli action was in response to terrorist acts levied against it with the open support and assistance of Arab neighbors of Israel who had been trying to kill Israel for decades.
|Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 85):|
And later President Reagan secretly negotiated (through that Lt North) with the Khomeiny folks to find a way out.
President Reagan, nor his team, negotiated for the release of the hostages of Teheran. They worked out a deal for the release of the hostages taken in Lebanon and Beirut by the Hizballah during the 80s. These negotiations were done in conjuction with Israel who actually sold the weapons to Iran and delivered them. There is a documented instance where the escort aircraft for the Israelis handed off to the Americans who shepherded the shipments over to Iran where an Israeli pilot spoke with an Iranian pilot who remembered him from an American pilot school they both attended years earlier.
The deal to release the Lebanon hostages was done just in the nick of time to prevent a US invasion of Lebanon in the form of a massive rescue mission that would have seen the entire Bekaa Valley laid to waste with bombing and US airborne insertions to seize the airport, the roads to the airport, radar and missile installations, and the hostages themselves.
Now, ask yourself, what would you have rather seen? Was President Reagan a warmonger or a man who preferred peace?
I don't read Arabic, and I am sure you are using an Arabic character keyboard, so please try to keep your comments in the agreed upon English, or provide an accurate translation. Thanks.
|Quoting SSTjumbo (Reply 89):|
Is this or is this not the guy who in part held the hostages captive 25 years ago?
That is something we don't know yet. Two independent analysis consultants hired by networks have so far been inconclusive with the photos available to the public, but they are at different angles and resolutions....and this ain't like TV
where they can use the computer on that show with Tiffani Cox and Sonny Corleone.
|Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 90):|
Greece: Gunfire attack on El Al airliner in Athens. 1 killed, 1 wounded. In response, Israeli commandos destroyed 14 Lebanese aircraft at Beirut International Airport. ASN, 12/28/68. 2 Palestinian hijackers freed after 7/22/70 attack (below).
THere it is. Thanks.
|Quoting Schoenorama (Reply 91):|
decades during which you would not be able to critisize your imposed dictator, decades during which very few would benefit from your country's natural resources and decades during which anyone who's brave enough to stand up to this dictator is tortured and killed.
You offer some good points....but I think what we are asking is will we tolerate terrorism....regardless of the motivations? The way forward is not to perpetuate the sins of the past.
|Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 92):|
some people who with horror remember a young bearded man in Tehran, and now see a similarily looking middle-aged man becoming president in Tehran, and now believe that it must be the one
This is a valid point. We ought to wait and see all the evidence available. I'm not discounting the hostages who say this is the case, but I think we need more evidence presented to us.
|Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 92):|
on the other side the new president who cannot remember to have been at that place in those times and refuses to have been one of the captors.
That's an evasion that will not pass. He needs to either admit it or show what he was doing there. He was definitely a "student" leader and had connections to the Mullahs who formed the council and interim government.
|Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 93):|
Simply doing acts of terrorism to "avenge" something else and unrelated WAS and IS terrorism.
Yep....and tell me what the taking of the embassy was if it was not what you just described.