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Is Contraception Still Sinful To Catholics?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:27 pm
by DaddiesSecret
Can someone please inform me? Is it so even if it is between two married people of opposite sexes?

RE: Is Contraception Still Sinful To Catholics?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:40 pm
by CaptOveur
Quoting DaddiesSecret (Thread starter):
Is it so even if it is between two married people of opposite sexes?

Yes

RE: Is Contraception Still Sinful To Catholics?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:42 pm
by DaddiesSecret
Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 1):
Quoting DaddiesSecret (Thread starter):
Is it so even if it is between two married people of opposite sexes?

Yes

why?

RE: Is Contraception Still Sinful To Catholics?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:26 pm
by CaptOveur
Quoting DaddiesSecret (Reply 2):
why?

Because the church is backwards, stuck in the past and preserving a thought process that only exists to make more Catholics.. That isn't to say the majority of Catholics actually follow those rules though.

There is a reason there are so many people disillusioned with the Catholic Church. I doubt you will find any major religion that has alienated so many members.

RE: Is Contraception Still Sinful To Catholics?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:17 pm
by wunala
Quoting DaddiesSecret (Thread starter):
Is it so even if it is between two married people of opposite sexes

You don't even need to be married, or the opposite sex, with the Catholic church it is all or nothing. Except if you are certain priests. Differrent rules apply there.

RE: Is Contraception Still Sinful To Catholics?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:19 pm
by RedDragon
Quoting Wunala (Reply 4):
Except if you are certain priests. Differrent rules apply there.

Careful...

RE: Is Contraception Still Sinful To Catholics?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:25 pm
by wunala
Quoting RedDragon (Reply 5):
Except if you are certain priests. Different rules apply there.

Careful...

Thats why I said certain priests. I know the majority are honest, etc, it is always the minority that give the bad name, but as they hold such a position in society, they need to be holier than holy.

RE: Is Contraception Still Sinful To Catholics?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:55 pm
by Catatonic
Quoting DaddiesSecret (Thread starter):
Is it so even if it is between two married people of opposite sexes?

Catholics believe that sex should be for procreation

RE: Is Contraception Still Sinful To Catholics?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:07 pm
by RedDragon
Quoting Catatonic (Reply 7):
Catholics believe that sex should be for procreation

The official view is that sex should be open to procreation and within a married relationship. A small but perhaps important distinction.

Rich

RE: Is Contraception Still Sinful To Catholics?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:50 pm
by beefstew25
Quoting CaptOveur (Reply 3):
Because the church is backwards, stuck in the past and preserving a thought process that only exists to make more Catholics.. That isn't to say the majority of Catholics actually follow those rules though.

So the Catholic Church should change its bylaws based upon popular opinion, and what non-Catholics think?

I am Catholic, and the whole contraception thing is kind of an eye-roller, but I like the fact the chruch does not bend its rules based upon the times.

RE: Is Contraception Still Sinful To Catholics?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:01 pm
by RedDragon
As for the Church not "bending" its rules based upon the times, I'm a bit sceptical as to whether this has actually been true. Look at Vatican II - a massive upheaval that was widely acknowledged as bringing the Church into the modern era, from a period where the liturgy was rooted firmly in medieval times, in many instances.

I don't think that the Church should change its doctrine based upon what people tell it. However, I do believe it should constantly be re-examining its rules to identify if they are no longer relevant to its members' beliefs. If a majority of practising Catholics disagree with the rules on contraception, for instance, then surely the Church is out of step with its flock?

RE: Is Contraception Still Sinful To Catholics?

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:53 am
by bhmbaglock
For many Catholics - no.

For the Church - yes.

I took the route of switching to the Episcopal Church. Very similar but without some of the baggage like this, celibate priests, etc. Essentially Catholic without the guilt.

RE: Is Contraception Still Sinful To Catholics?

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:57 am
by Logan22L
Quoting Wunala (Reply 4):
Except if you are certain priests.

Not sure that contraception is the issue there.

RE: Is Contraception Still Sinful To Catholics?

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:16 am
by jcs17
Technically, the church does not believe in any form of birth control, even during marriage.