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Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 5:51 pm



The UK Metric Association is calling for all road signs to be in Km/Kph before the 2012 olympics.

"Britain should set an early date for converting its road signs from miles to kilometres, a report by the UK Metric Association says."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4741894.stm

30 years after metrication started, we still use the old imperial system.

We buy a pint of milk but a litre of petrol. We weigh ourselves in stones but buy food in Kg/Grammes. I believe the UK should finish what it started and go completely metric in line with the rest of the world. Other countries have done it easily, what's different with the UK?

Cars already have speedos in both Mph/Kph, specialist machines already have their speed in kph. 30mph would become 50kph, 70mph would become 120kph etc. It's not really rocket science.

The old system is far more confusing, I mean 1760 yards in a mile, 3 feet to a yard, 12 inches to a foot, how ridiculous! How about 1000m in a km, 100cm in a m etc.
 
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 5:57 pm

we will eventually, a few years back we banned the use of lbs for selling fruit + veg, soon we will start replacing the mile.

When we do, will "The Royal Mile" become the "The Royal Kilometre" ?
 
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 6:05 pm

Quoting Noelg (Thread starter):
what's different with the UK?

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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 6:07 pm

Quoting Nighthawk (Reply 1):
will "The Royal Mile" become the "The Royal Kilometre" ?

The village (now "town" ) of Meilen (miles in German) near Zurich still is "Meilen" and has NOT been re-named into "Kilometer". And many local names throughout Continental Europe still refer to miles and pounds and feet. School-children in Zurich still sell (once per year) "Schoggi-Taler", in spite of the point that the Zurich Taler was replaced by the Swiss Franc in 1874 . So that you can have your "Royal Mile" ages after having converted to Kilometer. And a colleague of me lives at the "Grafschaft-Strasse" which is the "count-area-street", in spite of the fact that Zurich joined the "republican" Swiss confederation in 1453 .
 
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 6:09 pm

We have metric everything here but I still claim "mileage"..WTF?
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 6:10 pm

Hopefully never, though the crazy EU will probably force it on us sooner or later and make criminals of anyone who dares to use a mile, lb or ounce. The cost of converting everything is estimated at 700 million pounds, there are much more worthwhile and needed things to spend that sum of money on.

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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 6:16 pm

Quoting Gman94 (Reply 5):
Hopefully never, though the crazy EU will probably force it on us sooner or later and make criminals of anyone who dares to use a mile, lb or ounce. The cost of converting everything is estimated at 700 million pounds, there are much more worthwhile and needed things to spend that sum of money on.

Difference is not tolerated, we must all be clones.

What you post is blind nostalgia. "Crazy EU", eh? Have you ever realized that the metrification happens for a reason, and NOT to confuse you / bother you? "We must all be clones". Re-read your post again. A 9-year old could come up with better reasons against ANY political issue.

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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 6:19 pm

Quoting Gman94 (Reply 5):
though the crazy EU will probably force it on us sooner or later and make criminals of anyone who dares to use a mile, lb or ounce

This has always struck me as one of the mindbogglingly stupid things that an admittedly often mindbogglingly stupid organisation could ever do. By compelling change, they've managed to turn the whole metrication issue into an anti-EU fight. It's just utterly bonkers. It's so stupid, it could almost be a dastardly plot to turn the British even further against the EU.

Quoting Gman94 (Reply 5):
there are much more worthwhile and needed things to spend that sum of money on.

Exactly.

By the way, what kind of person wants to be a member of the UK Metric Association? I mean, get a life.
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 6:47 pm

Quoting Noelg (Thread starter):
We buy a pint of milk but a litre of petrol.

I thought milk was sold in litres, but when I looked it appears it actually sold in pint equivalents. So the supermarkets sell 2.272 and .568 litre bottles which are dual marked. How ridiculous is that?

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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 6:55 pm

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 6):
What you post is blind nostalgia. "Crazy EU", eh? Have you ever realized that the metrification happens for a reason, and NOT to confuse you / bother you? "We must all be clones". Re-read your post again. A 9-year old could come up with better reasons against ANY political issue

Oh good it's the usual 'dissent is not tolerated' line that comes up when anyone has a bad word to say about the EU, how very democratic the EU is becoming, a fine organisation to belong to.  Sad
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 6:59 pm

It does, on the whole, work well, so I think the huge amount of money which would have to be used should be used far more effectively.
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:01 pm

Speaking as an Englishman, I think it is just as likely to go fully metric as it would be for us to suddenly decide to drive on the right side of the road.

The politicians might be happy to decide to get rid of our imperial weights and measures, replace Sterling with the Euro, and generally give away all our Sovereign rights to the idiots at Strasbourg, but there are still many Englishmen who are willing to stand up for their uniqueness.
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:01 pm

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 10):
I think the huge amount of money which would have to be used should be used far more effectively.

scrapping student tuition fees, for example?  Wink
 
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:07 pm

Quoting Willo (Reply 12):
scrapping student tuition fees, for example?

I have had to pay postgraduate student tuition fees for 3 years now. While it would obviously be good to give students even more - undergraduates nowadays can get non-repayable grants and more financial assistance - I was thinking more about dentists and the NHS as a whole.
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:54 pm

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 13):
I was thinking more about dentists and the NHS as a whole.

Just a moment. This is money that we would have to find, not money already earmarked we can divert.

That £700 million is a serious underestimate anyway. You'd have to do it overnight (impossible) or you'd have to find some way of differentiating mph with kmh on a road sign, then go through another replacement further down the line. Then you'd have all the crashes caused by misunderstandings, the speeding fines caused by same, the deaths, the legal actions against councils for poor signage etc etc etc.

Completely loopy suggestion.
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:08 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 14):
You'd have to do it overnight

Why would you need to do it overnight?

Speedos already read in mph and kph, there would be no confusion.

Quoting Banco (Reply 14):
Then you'd have all the crashes caused by misunderstandings, the speeding fines caused by same, the deaths, the legal actions against councils for poor signage etc etc etc.

Canada, Australia, New Zealand and most recently Ireland have all done exactly the same and had no problems with it at all.

Hell countries have even recently changed the side of the road overnight with no major problems.
 
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:13 pm

Quoting Banco (Reply 14):
This is money that we would have to find, not money already earmarked we can divert.

Makes no difference: it could be far better spent elsewhere on things which are really needed.

Quoting Banco (Reply 14):
That £700 million is a serious underestimate anyway.

Why, I'm sure that could help the NHS.
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:21 pm

Quoting [email protected] (Reply 10):
It does, on the whole, work well, so I think the huge amount of money which would have to be used should be used far more effectively.

I can't provide a source here; but i heard a figure of £80m to change from Miles to Km.

As a comparison, I was watching BBC news 24 this morning before work, and they stated that the government had spent £150m (didn't specify a time scale) trying to reduce teen pregnancy's in the U.K, only for it to be a failure.

In my opinion, I think they should change to metric. And how about driving on the 'Right' side of the road, they could introduce it slowly, starting with lorries! Big grin
 
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:25 pm

Quoting Oli80 (Reply 17):
I can't provide a source here; but i heard a figure of £80m to change from Miles to Km.

On question time last night they put the figure at £700million. Not cheap.

Do any planes fly in km/h? I know they fly at altitudes in metres in some places and feet in others.
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:36 pm

Cleaning up the remaining non-metric corners is a one-time expense, while keeping such non-standard measurements puts a recurrent "tax" on all the products concerned, every time they are produced, supported and even used.

Using metric consistently throughout and with the rest of the world saves time, confusion and money.
 
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:41 pm

the British will never go fully metric ..it would undermine their prized eccentricity ( I am actually amazed that they have decimal currency )
 
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:48 pm

They could change the signs to km but we still think in miles (or any other imperial unit)

If people ask you how tall you are / how much you weigh / how far is it etc - the majority would still answer in imperial measurements (i know I do)

As for changing which side we drive on - that would cost far to much money and cause endless accidents. Roundabouts etc are designed / modified to make going the wrong way round them difficult (some still manage though)

Planes fly in knots which is a throwback to shipping & navigation - 1 knot = 1 nautical mile per hour.

Imperial units are often derived from physical / real things rather than a 'made up' unit.

They will be wanting to decimilise time next.
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:49 pm

Quoting Paulc (Reply 21):
They will be wanting to decimilise time next.

Well I'm not working 8 days out of a 10 day week.
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:50 pm

Quoting Kiwiandrew (Reply 20):
the British will never go fully metric ..it would undermine their prized eccentricity

They are among the top scorers in terms of denial, so they'll cope with it easily. Big grin
 
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:52 pm

Why remove the pound as weight measurement? It's usefull we have it in Germany as well were it equals 500 grams.
SOme of the Imperial stuff is quite alright IMO.

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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:54 pm

Quoting Paulc (Reply 21):
As for changing which side we drive on - that would cost far to much money and cause endless accidents.

So the swedes could do it, but you couldn't? Hm. You haven't got a lot of self-confidence, it seems...!

Quoting Paulc (Reply 21):
Planes fly in knots which is a throwback to shipping & navigation - 1 knot = 1 nautical mile per hour.

Nautical miles actually make some sense - they are actually not a measurement of length but one of angle. One nautical mile is one arc minute, so it is actually dependent of your altitude how "long" it actually is.

What's a really weird throwback in aviation is measuring the altitude in feet - that one is completely nonsensical and only persists for historical reasons.

Quoting Paulc (Reply 21):
Imperial units are often derived from physical / real things rather than a 'made up' unit.

Yeah. Such as body measurements of the tiny people of a bygone era who would nowadays be seen as dwarves. Really smart.  Yeah sure

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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:01 pm

Quoting Paulc (Reply 21):
They will be wanting to decimilise time next

Funny you should say that............

Decimal time was said to have been introduced in Ancient Egypt by a deity called Thoth. He is also credited with being the inventor of writing.

The Chinese also had decimal time for a while - two or three millenia - but more recently the French introduced decimal time during the French Revolution. It never caught on.

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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:03 pm

Quoting Klaus (Reply 25):
Quoting Paulc (Reply 21):
As for changing which side we drive on - that would cost far to much money and cause endless accidents.

So the swedes could do it, but you couldn't? Hm. You haven't got a lot of self-confidence, it seems...!

the Swedes did it in the early 1960's when there was far less traffic on the roads - and the Swedes have land borders with countries which also drive on the wrong side of the road so it made sense for them to change to driving on the wrong side too - the UK does not have any land borders with countries which drive the wrong way
 
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:05 pm

Quoting Klaus (Reply 25):
So the swedes could do it, but you couldn't? Hm. You haven't got a lot of self-confidence, it seems...!

Unfortunately Klaus that's typical of much of the UK's attitude these days. "It's worked up to now so why change it". A drop of snow and the whole transport system comes to a halt. We are talking about hosepipe ban in the summer, but we won't do anything about it (maybe desalinise water from the sea for instance).

We had the whole debacle with the Euro "It's our identity" BS. It worked for every other European country, why are the Brits so stubborn?

It's almost a case of giving in, everybody is afraid of change so just accepts things for what they are. Is it any wonder the country is in such a state?
 
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:31 pm

The British mentality very much focus on history and traditions, rather focus on going forward and adjusting to changes. They will only change when they absolutely have to. Very much a result of what I call an Island mentality. Today they sell petrol in metric measurements but uses mph etc. a strange combination of different systems. The London 2012 Olympic might be the incident that triggers the British to change, rather than showing the world how inconsistent and hopeless the present systems is.
 
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:17 pm

FFS what is wrong with doing things differently, why is it that if the British want to do something different or dislike something that our European friends do or suggest we are called xenophobic, rascist, backwards and have an island mentality. We are quite happy with our way or life and our sick and tired of being looked down apon by our friends in the EU who think they are somehow superior. There is no tangable benefits of changing to the metric system and the governement has said that the cost does not justify the means.

But the EU must be right so we should just change because were told to by our superior friends who for some reason dislike differences.  Sad
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:30 pm

Quoting Gman94 (Reply 30):
the EU who think they are somehow superior.



Quoting Gman94 (Reply 30):
But the EU must be right so we should just change because were told to by our superior friends who for some reason dislike differences.

Hmmm if I remember correctly this has absolutely nothing to do with the EU, it's a British group of people and totally insular to the UK.
 
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:40 pm

Get over you insecurity, Gman!

The advantages of the metric system are very much tangible in any major economy! Especially nowadays that the entire world is using it - standards are globally applicable and understandable. No need for clumsy and expensive re-packaging, in many cases even re-labelling isn't required.

It saves billions every single year to use one consistent, simple and unambiguous system ("would that be dry ounces or fluid ounces??"  crazy  ). Keeping an inconsistent, clumsy, ambiguous and to almost everybody on the planet alien measurement system is a very expensive and entirely unproductive "hobby" for a national economy, and it even incurs costs for your trading partners.

The changeover is only a single one-off effort. Everything gets easier and more efficient after that. It amortizes within a few years and is pure profit in every year that follows.

Britain is already "sort of" through with it - remaining stuck in the middle of it would be the most expensive and most uncomfortable position imaginable at all. But whatever floats your boat...!  crazy 
 
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:55 pm

Klaus,

if it is such a good idea then please suggest how it could be done without causing total chaos and costing a lot of money (or would the eu pay for it)
A valid reason for changing would be nice but as we have no land links with europe I cannot find one.

As mentioned in another post - the Swedes did change in the early 1960's when there were far fewer vehicles on the roads and far fewer road - it would be impossible for the UK to change given our current vehicle numbers and number of roads / motorways that would need to be altered in some way.

Why should we have to change to suit the continent ?

Hong Kong & China drive on different sides yet seem to manage ok.

What about the other countries that drive on the left - would you want them to change as well?
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 10:57 pm

Quoting Paulc (Reply 33):


Hang on a minute here - we're not talking about driving on the wrong side, we're on about the metric system. There's no point in driving on the right!

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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:00 pm

Quoting Gman94 (Reply 30):
We are quite happy with our way or life and our sick and tired of being looked down apon by our friends in the EU who think they are somehow superior.

I think its rather the other way around my friend. My experience is that there are few nationans in Europe, which have a more negativ view or attude towards foreigners that people in the UK.
 
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:07 pm

Quoting Gman94 (Reply 30):
There is no tangable benefits of changing to the metric system

1/ easier for children to learn - everything is multiples of 10

2/ like it or not the UK is a trading nation - most of your trading partners use
metric - it is extra expense to your manufacturers to have to put two sets
of measurements on all packaging - that extra expense has to be passed on
to someone , ie every single consumer in the UK - but hey , I am sure that
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:09 pm

Quoting Paulc (Reply 33):
if it is such a good idea then please suggest how it could be done without causing total chaos and costing a lot of money (or would the eu pay for it)

It is doable - it would take quite a bit of preparation, but it would be far from impossible.

I don't think, however, that the side you're driving on is really the most urgent issue for a reform.

Quoting Paulc (Reply 33):
A valid reason for changing would be nice but as we have no land links with europe I cannot find one.

Every car manufacturer who wants to supply the "left-hand-driving" markets is forced to put major time and investments into symmetrical construction and/or dual production facilities. It increases the cost for everybody.

In addition to that it becomes difficult and problematic to move between countries driving on different sides - you will always have to sell off your car if you want to avoid the added risks, even if it's in perfect condition.

It's an impediment for all economies and for tourism without any benefit other than avoiding the short-term transition pains.

Quoting Paulc (Reply 33):
What about the other countries that drive on the left - would you want them to change as well?

Yes. See above. If we'd be in the minority, I'd still be in favour of removing such an expensive and useless inconsistency.
 
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:16 pm

The current system of letting generations age off is the best one.

Kids are taught in metric, I was in the group which were some of the first to be taught that way. So eventually the only people left who are economically active will be those who understand metric completely. That's the time to make the change, and it's not that far off.

And BTW I buy my milk in litres. So does the bulk of Britain these days. I think the only issue I'd have is with miles per hour changing to kph but I'd get used to that.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 37):
Every car manufacturer who wants to supply the "left-hand-driving" markets is forced to put major time and investments into symmetrical construction and/or dual production facilities. It increases the cost for everybody.

except Britain is not the only RHD nation. Next you would have to force all the others to change. And some of them are a damned sight bigger than Britain.
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:45 pm

As I said - it would only make sense if all markets would become consistent eventually. Which side it would be is secondary - but the inconsistency is too useless and costly to drag it along forever.
 
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:57 pm

Klaus,

how do the Japanese manage then - they drive on the left and yet must incur costs to supply the 'right hand drive' market.

The UK biggest single trading country is the USA and they are still mainly non metric.
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Sat Feb 25, 2006 12:04 am

nah, only drug dealers use metric
 
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Sat Feb 25, 2006 12:28 am

Quoting Gman94 (Reply 5):
Hopefully never, though the crazy EU

it is NOT the E.U. which is crazy ................

Quoting Gman94 (Reply 5):
The cost of converting everything

I was in London in 1972 for three months, when weather forecasts still were in both Fahrenheit and centigrade, when no meters etc were in evidence. Compared with those times, the U.K. has moved about 95% ahead on the road to decimalisation

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 6):
blind nostalgia. "Crazy EU"

what is the long-term situation in the USA ?

Quoting Banco (Reply 7):
organisation could ever do. By compelling change, they've managed to turn

when they for once do something intelligent, they are condemned .....

Quoting BCAL (Reply 11):
as likely to go fully metric as it would be for us to suddenly decide to drive on the right side of the road.

no Sir, dozens of countries in the world, like Cyprus, Malta, India etc have full metrics and drive on the left. Whether you drive left or right has absolutely nothing to do with the measurements
 
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Sat Feb 25, 2006 12:29 am

Quoting Paulc (Reply 40):
how do the Japanese manage then - they drive on the left and yet must incur costs to supply the 'right hand drive' market.

Same as german or other manufacturers: They pass on the additional cost of this waste to their customers!

Among the few manufacturers who don't care are problably the american ones - nobody outside of the USA would want their cars anyway...!  mischievous 
 
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Sat Feb 25, 2006 12:33 am

Quoting Klaus (Reply 37):
Every car manufacturer who wants to supply the "left-hand-driving" markets is forced to put major time and investments into symmetrical construction and/or dual production facilities.



...the solution!!

 Silly
 
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Sat Feb 25, 2006 12:37 am

If we change mph to kph, why don't we just start driving on the other side of the road? Might as well join the euro whilst we're at it. It seems ridiculous to me to change something which has been in place so many years that the majority of the people living in Britain are used to it so much its second nature.
 
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Sat Feb 25, 2006 1:53 am

Quoting Mikedlayer (Reply 45):
join the euro

why NOT change the Euro ? ok ok ok ok ok --- I know all your "arguments" as they are amazingly similar with what Swiss people serve you as "reasons" for Switzerland NOT to join the Euro. That Germany in that does not exactly earn praise and honour is a fairly open secret ! in case of Switzerland it is to be stated that the Euro, quite unlike LH, does NOT belong to Germany !
 
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:06 am

Quoting WhiteHatter (Reply 38):
And BTW I buy my milk in litres. So does the bulk of Britain these days.

Yes, we all do. The only problem is that it's not 1L, 2L or .5L is it? This here bottle is precisely 2.272L (just because that happens to equate to 4 old-fashioned pints!) How fucked up is that?

Buying petrol in litres, then driving miles. It's just totally crazy.

There's only one thing worse than our mixed up measurements, and that's American imperial measurements with pints and gallons that are different to ours! crazy 

When is America going to go metric then (he says in a desperate attempt to deflect attention away Britain's metric madness!)
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:22 am

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 47):
When is America going to go metric then

Never! (And 4 pints is 1.89L, btw).  Wink
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RE: Will The UK Ever Go Fully Metric?

Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:24 am

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 47):
This here bottle is precisely 2.272L

buy two or three new 1/one-litre-bottles or one 2/two-litre-bottle

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 47):
then driving miles

"driving miles" ? but I think, most UK-cars also show kilometers and not only miles, so that you have it in kilometers also anyway

Quoting Scbriml (Reply 47):
pints and gallons that are differen

that shows how strange the old measurements really are. Litres are the same all over the word, regardless of where you are

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