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RE: Countries Starbucks Hasn't Yet Invaded?
People. As much as S'bucks has "invaded" many places in the world, keep in mind that they are not kept in business by Americans on holiday (or the above mentioned businessmen.. lol) . They are, for the most part, kept in business by the citizens that live in the city where they are located. Capatalism at it's finest. If you dont like it, don't frequent it. Send them a message that way. If they lose money, they'll shut their doors. But I dont see that happening in too many places...As I said, we Americans cannot by ourselves support the existence of Starbucks, (and I ll throw in McD's, KFc, etc. etc). in your countries.
RE: Countries Starbucks Hasn't Yet Invaded?
787, I guess your the a.net coffee expert! Out of interest, what do you drink in Italy with the lack of Starbucks?
You said it - its all a matter of taste. If he doesn't like Starbucks that's totally his perogative (yes, I know he hasn't said if he has tried it yet).
As I said earlier in this thread, I personally don't like Starbucks coffee to much, but then again, I don't like Costa, Dunkin Doughnuts and many of the other big coffee chains coffee. I prefer the smaller private coffee shop, often cheaper and a better drink.
I do like the biscuits and cake things Starbucks sell though!
Adam
| Quoting 787 (Reply 80): It is all a matter of taste no? Time here for a espresso doppio with a shot of grappa on the side maybe!! |
| Quoting 787 (Reply 97): My friends, what you have here is people who just don't like Starbucks because in their own mind it is unfashionable to say it. |
You said it - its all a matter of taste. If he doesn't like Starbucks that's totally his perogative (yes, I know he hasn't said if he has tried it yet).
As I said earlier in this thread, I personally don't like Starbucks coffee to much, but then again, I don't like Costa, Dunkin Doughnuts and many of the other big coffee chains coffee. I prefer the smaller private coffee shop, often cheaper and a better drink.
I do like the biscuits and cake things Starbucks sell though!
Adam
RE: Countries Starbucks Hasn't Yet Invaded?
| Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 78): We have here since the middle of the 17th century an extremely sophisticated coffee culture |
Haha tell me actually how sophisticated our coffee culture is? The only reason why there is no Starbucks in The Netherlands is because Douwe Egberts (DE) has kept them out with their own 'Caf� DE' (quite successful, too) which does barely differ from Starbucks.
So the argument that Dutch coffee culture is too sophisticated for Starbucks just is a lot of bogus.
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RE: Countries Starbucks Hasn't Yet Invaded?
| Quoting 787 (Reply 99):
Have you ever actually tried Starbucks coffee? Be truthful in your response |
Yes. Several times. Once or twice in New York, once in a Barnes & Noble bookshop in Washington DC, and once or twice in London. Straight black coffee, and I take about half a teaspoonful of sugar in my coffee (yes I know, I could just as well not put sugar in my coffee). Sorry, but it did not press my buttons.
You don't know me, so don't judge me. I do not base my opinions on what is fashionable or not. My opinion is that you can get far better coffee than Starbucks or Costa serve just around the corner from where I live. I am not asking you to agree with me, it is just my o-p-i-n-i-o-n. Got it? Deal with it. But come along some time. I'll treat you to a decent cup of coffee.
| Quoting A319114 (Reply 102):
Haha tell me actually how sophisticated our coffee culture is? The only reason why there is no Starbucks in The Netherlands is because Douwe Egberts (DE) has kept them out with their own 'Caf� DE' (quite successful, too) which does barely differ from Starbucks. So the argument that Dutch coffee culture is too sophisticated for Starbucks just is a lot of bogus |
Well if Café DE is very similar to Starbucks, fine. Come to the Grote Markt in Den Haag on a sunny afternoon. There are five very straightforward cafés there that serve a delicious cup of coffee.
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RE: Countries Starbucks Hasn't Yet Invaded?
| Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 92): And Amsterdam??? |
Dont know. The other cities they mentioned for future expansion were Bucaramanga and Cartagena (in Colombia) and Madrid, Brussels, Los Angeles, Buanos Aires, Lima, Beijing, Hong Kong and Toronto internationally.
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| Quoting BA757 (Reply 101): 787, I guess your the a.net coffee expert! Out of interest, what do you drink in Italy with the lack of Starbucks? |
Thanks. I do know alot about coffee. I like Tazzo d'Oro and get it directly from Roma.
Apart from espresso, there is only one preferred brewing type and that is a coffee press. It is wonderful to extract the fullest flavors of quality beans. This is how you judge good coffee or not.
Thank you very much.
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RE: Countries Starbucks Hasn't Yet Invaded?
We don't have it in Bulgaria yet.