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Alessandro
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Turkey Stops Iranian And Syrianplanes

Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:15 pm

Turkey has stopped Iranian and Syrian cargo planes from flying over Turkey
with the destination of Lebanon see http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/753064.html
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RE: Turkey Stops Iranian And Syrianplanes

Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:24 pm

Is this newspaper reliable, or is it one-sided?

Sounds to be an interesting development.
 
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RE: Turkey Stops Iranian And Syrianplanes

Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:49 pm

As reliable as any Israeli newspaper.
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RE: Turkey Stops Iranian And Syrianplanes

Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:01 pm

Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 1):
Is this newspaper reliable, or is it one-sided?

haaretz is considered the most reliable newspaper in israel.
 
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RE: Turkey Stops Iranian And Syrianplanes

Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:12 pm

Quoting Ly001 (Reply 3):

Ok, thanks... This seems to be an interesting development, I am surprised Turkey is getting that active in this conflict.
 
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RE: Turkey Stops Iranian And Syrianplanes

Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:50 pm

This is old news.

Turkey had stopped 3-4 cargo planes to check what they were carrying. But as a result no guns or bombs found on these planes.
 
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RE: Turkey Stops Iranian And Syrianplanes

Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:18 pm

As mentioned by Emrecan, Turkey has indeed requested several aircraft land for inspection which were destined to Syria from Iran.

Interestingly, besides these that complied and landed, several others however instead turned around and headed back to Iran.

Makes one wonder..  Yeah sure

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RE: Turkey Stops Iranian And Syrianplanes

Tue Aug 22, 2006 12:55 am

Pretty fast response by American intelligence to notify Turkey that the flights were in the air....
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RE: Turkey Stops Iranian And Syrianplanes

Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:11 am

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 7):

Nobody said these aircraft didn't report to Turkish ATC...

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RE: Turkey Stops Iranian And Syrianplanes

Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:16 am

Quoting Ptrjong (Reply 8):
Nobody said these aircraft didn't report to Turkish ATC...

Did I say that???
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RE: Turkey Stops Iranian And Syrianplanes

Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:29 am

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 9):
Did I say that???

No... but you suggest US intelligence was involved. I don't see why that would be the case. Inspecting Iranian Lebanon-bound flights is something the Turks could think of themselves. And as nothing was found on the aircraft that did land, the information they had apparently wasn't that specific.
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RE: Turkey Stops Iranian And Syrianplanes

Tue Aug 22, 2006 4:27 am

My apologies to RJ, I failed to properly read the article.

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RE: Turkey Stops Iranian And Syrianplanes

Tue Aug 22, 2006 4:58 am

This is a difficult target. But smuggling weapons under the protection of commercial travel is nothing new. Afterall it is what helped bring the US in to WWI with the sinking of the Lusitania. I'm not surprised that Israel is requiring stops of all planes bound for Lebanon. Jordan is one of the few countries in the middle east with diplomatic relations with Israel and maintains air service with Israel, so it is a good third party for both sides. At least there is air service that is coming back to Lebanon. Without these limitations, Israel might just go ahead and do more destruction at the airport.
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RE: Turkey Stops Iranian And Syrianplanes

Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:01 am

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 6):
Interestingly, besides these that complied and landed, several others however instead turned around and headed back to Iran.

Makes one wonder..

Ironic that an American would say that  Wink
 
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RE: Turkey Stops Iranian And Syrianplanes

Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:02 am

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 6):
Interestingly, besides these that complied and landed, several others however instead turned around and headed back to Iran.

Makes one wonder..

Ironic that an American would say that  Wink
 
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RE: Turkey Stops Iranian And Syrianplanes

Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:28 am

Quoting TheSonntag (Reply 4):
This seems to be an interesting development, I am surprised Turkey is getting that active in this conflict.

well if they didnt stop planes from Iran wouldnt that also involve them in the conflict?

Quoting RJpieces (Reply 7):
Pretty fast response by American intelligence to notify Turkey that the flights were in the air....

US has AWACs flying in the gulf.
 
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RE: Turkey Stops Iranian And Syrianplanes

Tue Aug 22, 2006 2:50 pm

Just checking my geography here...

1) The most direct route from Iran to Lebanon is over northern Iraq. Are Iranian aircraft prohibited from this airspace? Otherwise, why are they over Turkey?

2) Syria shares a border with Lebanon. Why would they be over Turkey at all?

So the question I have is: Are the Turks intercepting flights over their own soil (perfectly acceptable in my book) or over other countries (far more questionable)?
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RE: Turkey Stops Iranian And Syrianplanes

Tue Aug 22, 2006 4:30 pm

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 16):
1) The most direct route from Iran to Lebanon is over northern Iraq. Are Iranian aircraft prohibited from this airspace? Otherwise, why are they over Turkey?

According to the article:
The detained aircraft entered Turkish airspace after having been prevented from flying over Iraq.

I have no doubt the Americans control Iraqi airspace.

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 16):
2) Syria shares a border with Lebanon. Why would they be over Turkey at all?

Good question.
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RE: Turkey Stops Iranian And Syrianplanes

Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:25 pm

There Iranian flights into some airports in Iraq and some overflights as well.
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RE: Turkey Stops Iranian And Syrianplanes

Tue Aug 22, 2006 7:13 pm

Quoting A300 (Reply 18):
Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 16):
1) The most direct route from Iran to Lebanon is over northern Iraq. Are Iranian aircraft prohibited from this airspace? Otherwise, why are they over Turkey?

According to the article:
The detained aircraft entered Turkish airspace after having been prevented from flying over Iraq.

I have no doubt the Americans control Iraqi airspace

As an example;

I regularly fly from Erbil (Kurdistan / northern Iraq) with Hamburg international and believe me when that flight is late it has nothing to do with the Americans it's always the Turks denying airspace to a flight full of Kurds ( which actually is 80% full of European businessmen helping in the re-construction)......a couple of weeks ago we the turks made us climb to max cruising altitude before entering their airspace, we circled for 45 mins above Mosul to get to that altitude....it's always political "C**P" between the Turks & Kurds.

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