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Government OK'd Lead Tainted Lunchboxes

Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:56 am

From the CNN article: Lead-laden lunchboxes OK'd by government

(AP) -- In 2005, when government scientists tested 60 soft, vinyl lunchboxes, they found that one in five contained amounts of lead that medical experts consider unsafe -- and several had more than 10 times hazardous levels.

But that's not what they told the public.

Instead, the Consumer Product Safety Commission released a statement that they found "no instances of hazardous levels." And they refused to release their actual test results, citing regulations that protect manufacturers from having their information released to the public.


The article goes on to say that,"The direct exposure would be if kids were putting their lunchboxes in their mouth, which isn't a common way for children to interact with their lunchbox," said CPSC spokeswoman Julie Vallese."

Absolutely unconscionable. My daughter is autistic and has a metabolic disorder that requires a strict diet. So we send her to school with an appropriate lunch thinking we're protecting her. Now I find out the U.S. government thinks that lead levels 10 times the hazardous amount in kids lunchboxes aren't a problem because they think kids don't lick them? Most kids didn't lick walls either but did that stop them from removing lead from house paint? My daughter puts stuff in her mouth all the time. It's not easy to train someone with moderate autism to not put something in their mouth that they associate with food! This is absolute BS!!

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RE: Government OK'd Lead Tainted Lunchboxes

Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:47 am

When will the government finally recognize the hazards of the taint?!?
 
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RE: Government OK'd Lead Tainted Lunchboxes

Mon Feb 19, 2007 6:49 pm

Quoting Dl757md (Thread starter):
My daughter is autistic

I presume you'll be familiar with the (strongly suspected) effects of mercury then

http://www.amazon.com/Mercury-Messen...r-Courtney-L-Zietzke/dp/1418437816

You can also download as an e-book
http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore/ItemDetail~bookid~20953.aspx

My wife was a special needs teacher and came across many autistic kids (many more boys seemed to be left handed as well... more than the population distribution anyway). We still haven't let our son have his MMR jab yet because we can't trust the cocktail of vaccines - with mercury preservative - that kids are given within weeks of birth in conjunction with our respective health issues. We're sure it's the mercury in the DTP vaccine that is now given at 4 week intervals (instead of the previous 3 months) that can have an effect on the immune system, especially if you have a slow metabolism, and leave the body open to attack by live vaccines.

Your daughter must be exceptionally unlucky because it's mostly boys who are affected by autism.

Quoting Dl757md (Thread starter):
And they refused to release their actual test results, citing regulations that protect manufacturers from having their information released to the public.

Seems to be the same old story, protect the business at the expense of the poor consumer. Why should regulations stop the public being told of something that's hazardous to health, especially kid's health?
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RE: Government OK'd Lead Tainted Lunchboxes

Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:49 am

Quoting Oly720man (Reply 2):
I presume you'll be familiar with the (strongly suspected) effects of mercury then

Thank you so much for the info. Actually, we know the cause of my daughter's autism. She was born with a rare metabolic disorder called OTC deficiency that wasn't properly diagnosed until she was 3 1/2. It caused her to suffer hyper-ammonic episodes that cause brain damage. These episodes have been under control since then and she has suffered no further deterioration. She's 12 now and only last year did she finally receive the diagnosis of autism. This is because in the U.S. at least child psychologists are reluctant to diagnose autism when there is definite medical condition that caused it.

Quoting Oly720man (Reply 2):
Your daughter must be exceptionally unlucky because it's mostly boys who are affected by autism.

Yes that is correct. From a different perspective though she is lucky that she is a girl. OTC deficiency more adversely affects boys than girls. Had she been a boy and gone undiagnosed to the age of 3 1/2 she very well might have died.

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RE: Government OK'd Lead Tainted Lunchboxes

Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:41 am

Quoting Dl757md (Reply 3):
This is because in the U.S. at least child psychologists are reluctant to diagnose autism when there is definite medical condition that caused it.

From my wife's experiences, it's not too dissimilar over here, but that's for (probably) financial reasons. Kids can display some characteristic symptoms of autism, but unless every box in the diagnosis is ticked then it's not autism and then it's hard for families to get the support that could be given to those looking after autistic kids.



I've just looked for OTC and found this with regard to the Minimata mercury poisoning in the 1950's

http://www.mercola.com/2000/oct/1/mercury_autism.htm

In 1993 Kane found an interesting correlation in the literature between autism and mercury with the occurrence of autism presenting in adulthood occurring in Japan. The presentation of autism in these individuals was linked to ornithine transcarbamylase deficiency, the most common urea cycle defect. Damage to this enzyme can occur with exposure to mercury.

Low levels of ornithine transcarbamylase (OTC) leads to states of hyperammonemia, seizures and stroke. The enzyme OTC controls ammonia, critical issues in states of epilepsy and autism. The often spacy, confused behavior 'brain fog' that is frequently observed in these disorders may be attributed states of hyperammonemia as ammonia reaches the brain.


Can't find the Kane 1993 reference, though.
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RE: Government OK'd Lead Tainted Lunchboxes

Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:32 am

Quoting Oly720man (Reply 2):
the cocktail of vaccines - with mercury preservative



Quoting Oly720man (Reply 2):
the mercury in the DTP vaccine

I can't speak for Britain, but for the thread starter's purposes, vaccines in the United States have been thiomersol-free since at least 2002.
 
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RE: Government OK'd Lead Tainted Lunchboxes

Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:47 am

Quoting Oly720man (Reply 4):
The presentation of autism in these individuals was linked to ornithine transcarbamylase deficiency, the most common urea cycle defect. Damage to this enzyme can occur with exposure to mercury.

That's an amazing connection that none of her doctors have mentioned before. It was explained to us that a defective gene (which they verified the presence of) caused the OTC deficiency. Perhaps the above information suggests the defective gene predisposes it's owner to OTC deficiency only when exposed to the inoculations. Very interesting Oly720man.. Thanks for the info. And welcome to my RU list.

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RE: Government OK'd Lead Tainted Lunchboxes

Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:04 pm

People just need to chill out and quit getting paranoid over essentially nothing. Gone are the good ole days when people didn't raise a cane about every little thing.

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RE: Government OK'd Lead Tainted Lunchboxes

Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:30 pm

Quoting Dl757md (Reply 6):
Perhaps the above information suggests the defective gene predisposes it's owner to OTC deficiency only when exposed to the inoculations

It's always possible. Unfortunately it's one of those things that is only discovered when it's too late. That's the problem... the human body is so complicated with so many biochemical interactions it's impossible to know ahead of time what's going to happen and you can only pick up the pieces and be prepared for next time.

Quoting Slovacek747 (Reply 7):
People just need to chill out and quit getting paranoid over essentially nothing. Gone are the good ole days when people didn't raise a cane about every little thing.

True, but lead, or heavy metal poisoning are hardly trivial matters.

The human body is bombarded with so many chemicals in the environment (from plastics to heavy metals to drug residues to pesticides, both accidentally ingested/absorbed and in the workplace) it's hardly surprising that things go wrong for some people. And things can only get worse as there are more and more interactions.
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