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Trump: Bush Is Worst President In U.S History...

Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:00 am

 
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Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:05 am

Quoting Alberchico (Thread starter):
any thoughts ???

Opinions are like assholes. Everyone's got one and everyone's but theirs stink. Next he'll be running for office and saying he can do a better job, too. Like how he runs a reality show, but on a much larger scale.

Who does he fire?
 
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Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:09 am

Quoting Alberchico (Thread starter):
any thoughts ???

Seems to me that his feud with Rosie died... and then she pulled this Terrorist Support Network rant she went into this week..

It left the old Donald in a pickle, since he hates Bush too..

So, what else was he to do... the only way to out do Rosie was to go right to the source... so he slammed Bush, as predicted..

Nothing new here...
 
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Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:12 am

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 1):
Who does he fire?

US attorneys??  silly 
 
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Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:14 am

Well there is no denying the truth.  Big grin  Embarrassment
 
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RE: Trump: Bush Is Worst President In U.S History...

Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:18 am

Quoting Alberchico (Thread starter):
any thoughts ???

Yeah...Why does CNN insist on pointing a camera toward their in-studio monitors to provide us video footage, rather than just feeding the video onto our screens the normal way?
 
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Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:24 am

Quoting Walter747 (Reply 4):
Well there is no denying the truth.

Agree..........

Phyllis  bouncy 
 
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Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:31 am

Quoting Alberchico (Thread starter):
any thoughts ???

as if we didnt know.

Quoting KFLLCFII (Reply 5):
Yeah...Why does CNN insist on pointing a camera toward their in-studio monitors to provide us video footage, rather than just feeding the video onto our screens the normal way?

the way the show is produced.
 
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Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:35 am

Quoting Alberchico (Thread starter):
Trump: Bush Is Worst President In U.S History...

 
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RE: Trump: Bush Is Worst President In U.S History.

Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:36 am

Quoting Vaporlock (Reply 6):
Quoting Walter747 (Reply 4):
Well there is no denying the truth.

Agree..........

Quoting STLGph (Reply 7):
Quoting Alberchico (Thread starter):
any thoughts ???

as if we didnt know.

4th! Must have been a slow news day for them to resort to generally accepted facts as "news".

edit: 5th is it, then

[Edited 2007-03-17 04:37:15]
 
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Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:42 am

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 1):
Opinions are like assholes.

And EVERYONE knows the Donald is only surpassed in assholisim by his hair. I think he's right, but he needs to open a can of STFU the size of his flag in PBI.
 
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Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:44 am

Is this news? The number of scandals in the Wubya administration are comparable to Clinton's. Clinton had all those mysterious deaths too. RIP, Ron Brown.  tombstone 
 
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Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:11 pm

Quoting Alberchico (Thread starter):
any thoughts ???

"Bush: Trump Is Worst Corporate Leader in History."

So there.  rotfl 
 
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Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:23 pm

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 12):
"Bush: Trump Is Worst Corporate Leader in History."

So there.

LOL


"Don't forget that Bush is a really nasty human being. He's just terrible. He's as ugly as Rosie. And he's fat. He's a fat, ugly person and I'd pay to get out of any room where Bush decided to just hang upside down."

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-Rosie

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Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:05 pm

Mr. President,



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Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:11 pm

Unlike Donald, GW still has his original hair.
 
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Sat Mar 17, 2007 2:52 pm

While I reserve judgement on whether or not Bush is our worst ever president (a bit too early to call, although the trend is pointing toward the low end of the scale), I really don't give a rat's ass what Mr. Trump thinks. Although I had assumed he would be more conservative/Republican, given his business positions.
 
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Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:13 pm

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 16):
Although I had assumed he would be more conservative/Republican, given his business positions.

That doesn't necessarily mean he automatically likes GWB though.
 
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Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:40 pm

Quoting FXramper (Reply 11):
Is this news? The number of scandals in the Wubya administration are comparable to Clinton's. Clinton had all those mysterious deaths too. RIP, Ron Brown.

Oh come on....Clinton didn't kill anyone. Clinton was a great president; I voted for him in 1996 and would have cheerfully done so in 2000 had he been able to run.
 
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Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:50 pm

Quoting Disruptivehair (Reply 18):
Clinton was a great president

President Clinton will not go down as a "great" president. He will go down somewhere in the middle of the pack of "good" presidents, I suspect, with a big * by his name for the impeachment, even if it was purly political motivation by his rivals to impeach him. That stain-no pun intended-cannot be removed from his record.

He had a great ecnomy under his watch; there were few major crisis' under his presidency, with the exception of the Oklahoma City bombing, which I thought he handled quite well; our friendships and alliances were as strong as they've ever been while he was in office.

But he cannot be catagorized as a "great" president. The "great" presidents are those that faced down major crisis', and came out on top, which is why we have so few presidents that are considered great, like Washington, Lincoln and FDR. Of course, a major crisis can end up putting a president in the "worst" catagory, such as Nixon and Watergate, and, perhaps, our current president with Iraq.
 
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RE: Trump: Bush Is Worst President In U.S History...

Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:58 pm

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 19):
at stain-no pun intended-cannot be removed from his record.

Neither will the fact that he lost his law licence for lying to a Grand Jury. Didn't someone else do that and get a similar slap on the wrist....oh wait we don't know that yet, he is facing jail time.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 19):



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 19):
there were few major crisis' under his presidency, with the exception of the Oklahoma City bombing,

Yeah, lets just forget about the WTC Bombing, or the USS Cole. Or the fact that Sudan offered Bin Laden to the Clinton administration but they "had nothing to hold him on." Lets forget about the wall his administration built between the FBI and CIA so that intelligence couldn't be shared.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 19):
our friendships and alliances were as strong as they've ever been while he was in office.

Funny how this is even a criteria. You mention Washington in your next paragraph too, who warned against alliances. But that is beside the point. Relations with friendly countries always have their ups and downs. US and British forces were sometimes at each other's throats during World War II. Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus, jailed journalists, and exiled political foes during his crisis, but according to you, Bush will be one of the worst presidents. Your politcs is showing.

Every time this topic comes up the usual suspects make the same tired old slam on Bush. In fact, the jury on Bush and Clinton will still be out for another decade or so. It takes a real long term view to make a judgement on an administration. Anyone making pronouncements about the current administration while it is still in office is showing just how far their head is up their a$$.

Trump should stick to his TV show and Casinos. He doesn't know diddly about anything else.

As for who I think was the worst I give that dubious distinction to James Buchanan. A man so partisan and inept his deliberate inaction lead to the Civil War. Second place would go to Taft. Whose corruption was legendary in it's scope. Not a single president in my lifetime or the last 60 years, no matter how much I disagree with their policies or personal ethics has come close to those two losers.
 
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:27 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 19):
there were few major crisis' under his presidency, with the exception of the Oklahoma City bombing,

Well what do you expect. Clinton was great at ending a crisis before it happened. Lets take a look.

He averted the potential take over of Texas with his invasion and bombing at Waco.

He ended the world wide hostage situation of Elio Gonzales with his strike force, weapons drawn.

And finally, he ensured his goal of making sure an American company and its shareholders don't become overly successful in the prosecution of that evil Microsoft Company.
 
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:36 am

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 21):
He ended the world wide hostage situation of Elio Gonzales with his strike force, weapons drawn.

Which I was all for, but we won't get into that old story again. The boy is where he should be-with his father, not "relatives" who held him hostage, and whom he didn't know to begin with.

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 21):
He averted the potential take over of Texas with his invasion and bombing at Waco.

 rotfl 

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 21):
And finally, he ensured his goal of making sure an American company and its shareholders don't become overly successful in the prosecution of that evil Microsoft Company.

 rotfl 

All that compared to a costly war in Iraq, and outsourcing as national policy?

Uh, OK.
 
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 8:53 am

Quoting SKYSERVICE_330 (Reply 17):
That doesn't necessarily mean he automatically likes GWB though.

Well, yeah, but generally you don't hear anti-Bush conservatives calling him the worst president in history.
 
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 12:06 pm

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 22):
All that compared to a costly war in Iraq, and outsourcing as national policy?

Uh, OK.

Well, yes, when you think Clinton was focusing all his efforts on such useless things instead of trying to stop the terrorists that were plotting against us.
 
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Sun Mar 18, 2007 2:00 pm

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 23):
Well, yeah, but generally you don't hear anti-Bush conservatives calling him the worst president in history.

You're right. Bush is only the fourth worst in history.

1. Abraham LIncoln
2. Woodrow Wilson
3. FDR
4. G.W. Bush
 
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Rosey and the Donald agreeing? Holy cow.
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3rds. this sentiment!  bigthumbsup  I'd love to have the Donald or better yet hundreds of thousands of us proud US citizens telling W and his
rogues: You're Fired! or better yet, G.T.F.O.O.H  bouncy 
 
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RE: Trump: Bush Is Worst President In U.S History...

Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:35 pm

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 24):
Well, yes, when you think Clinton was focusing all his efforts on such useless things instead of trying to stop the terrorists that were plotting against us.

Another old, washed-up, lame non-starter, GT. That's not the case. You know it; I know it; everyone knows it. So why do you perpetuate such nonsense?

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 25):
1. Abraham LIncoln
2. Woodrow Wilson
3. FDR
4. G.W. Bush

 rotfl 

Pray tell me, MD90, why do you think Lincoln and FDR, who are almost universally thought of as two of the greatest presidents of all time, are two of the worst? We might have to start a new thread just on the above.

I'm really interested in your answer so I can politely rip you apart on what you say.  Big grin
 
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:23 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 27):
Another old, washed-up, lame non-starter, GT. That's not the case. You know it; I know it; everyone knows it. So why do you perpetuate such nonsense?

Well, if Clinton did something about the first World Trade Center bombing, instead of letting it go and not create a "crisis," then 9/11 would never have happened. You can call it nonsense all you want, but then you would be saying that you think 9/11 and that whole "crisis" was meaningless. Again, instead of building a case against Bin Laden and his terrorist network, Clinton was prosecuting Microsoft.
 
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:33 am

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 28):
Well, if Clinton did something about the first World Trade Center bombing, instead of letting it go and not create a "crisis," then 9/11 would never have happened.

Pure conjecture on your part. Seems to me those responsible were arrested and incarcertated, if memory serves, GT.

And why "create" a crisis? It wasn't a "crisis". It was an act of terrorism, and one that was very serious indeed, but not one that was something that we should have fabricated a crisis over. 9/11 was something no one has ever seen, and it's doubtful that creating a phony crisis over the '93 bombing would have had any effect on that.

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 28):
You can call it nonsense all you want, but then you would be saying that you think 9/11 and that whole "crisis" was meaningless.

Apples and oranges, man. 9/11 was a different beast alltogether, and it has changed much of our world-and made some of us very paranoid as well, it looks like.

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 28):
Again, instead of building a case against Bin Laden and his terrorist network, Clinton was prosecuting Microsoft.

That's like saying that instead of seriously going after Bin Laden, Bush's Dept of Justice was busy prosecuting Martha Stewart, and, as with your insinuations against Mr. Clinton, one has nothing to do with the other, dude. You know that. But you're pretending you don't. The case was being built against Al Qaeda, and OBL was a wanted fugative.

And guess what? 5 years after 9/11 we still don't have him, do we? So, why don't you save some of your vitrol for President Bush, because he hasn't caught the man, either.
 
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:38 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 27):
Pray tell me, MD90, why do you think Lincoln and FDR, who are almost universally thought of as two of the greatest presidents of all time, are two of the worst? We might have to start a new thread just on the above.

I'm obviously not MD90, but I'd guess it's because those presidents have strayed the farthest from hardline conservative ideology. FDR's case is obvious; he practically founded the liberal idea of the government's active role in the economy. And Lincoln showed himself willing to override laws and the Constitution to successfully prosecute the Civil War. Most people, even conservatives, forgive these men for those actions, given the circumstances during their presidencies. MD90, apparently, does not.
 
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:43 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 29):
And why "create" a crisis? It wasn't a "crisis". It was an act of terrorism, and one that was very serious indeed, but not one that was something that we should have fabricated a crisis over. 9/11 was something no one has ever seen, and it's doubtful that creating a phony crisis over the '93 bombing would have had any effect on that.



Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 29):
And guess what? 5 years after 9/11 we still don't have him, do we? So, why don't you save some of your vitrol for President Bush, because he hasn't caught the man, either

Clinton did not go after Bin Laden in 93. He didn't even try. Result: Bin Laden was free to plot his next attempt, that was frightfully successful.

Bush, DID go after Bin Laden, and yes, unsuccessfully has yet to capture him. Result: Bin Laden is held up in some cave, with absolutely no powers to hurt America again.

Now, answer this, who did more to stop Bin Laden? Who successfully took all of Bin Ladens power away? Try to answer that one with Bill Clinton.

Do I want him captured and hung like Saddam? Of course I do, but looking at the results of how each President handled the situation after Bin Laden attacked us is very clear. One did nothing. One stopped him.

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 29):
It was an act of terrorism, and one that was very serious indeed, but not one that was something that we should have fabricated a crisis over.

Yea, fabricating a crisis to strip Bin Laden of his powers in the 90's BEFORE he launched the 9/11 attacks was something we never should have done. I mean, the results of that theory turned out great.. didn't they?
 
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:45 am

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 30):
I'm obviously not MD90, but I'd guess it's because those presidents have strayed the farthest from hardline conservative ideology.

Well, since neither one of those president were conservative, that's obvious.  Yeah sure

Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 30):
FDR's case is obvious; he practically founded the liberal idea of the government's active role in the economy

Actually, every measure FDR put in he thought would not be permanent. The blame for the permanency of the "Welfare State" falls on presidents and congresses that came along after FDR had left the scene. Like Lincoln, FDR was willing to try almost anything to get the nation out of the crisis it was in.
 
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 12:54 am

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 1):
Next he'll be running for office and saying he can do a better job

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While I would NOT love to see him in the White House I am quite confident that HE would be able to do a good job, and for sure a far better than the present office-holder
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Quoting Aloges (Reply 9):
generally accepted facts

still not yet really INSIDE the USA !  duck   duck 
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Quoting L-188 (Reply 15):
Unlike Donald, GW still has his original hair.

hairs are not thinking
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Quoting Yellowstone (Reply 16):
Bush is our worst ever president (a bit too early to call,

he has still 22 months to go, and so still has the chance to turn the matter in his favour. Imagine he settles the Iraq matter, comes to terms with Iran, settles the problems in Palestine-Israel, he then will go into history as one of the biggies !
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:02 am

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 33):
he has still 22 months to go, and so still has the chance to turn the matter in his favour. Imagine he settles the Iraq matter, comes to terms with Iran, settles the problems in Palestine-Israel, he then will go into history as one of the biggies !

Salut ME AVN FAN ! I am really touched by your optimism Big grin Anyways Tout est possible dans la vie  yes 

Alex!!!
 
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:09 am

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 31):
Clinton did not go after Bin Laden in 93

Maybe that's because, from everything I've seen, OBL wasn't responsible for that attack. In fact, those responsible were convicted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_T...ter#Bombing_of_February_26.2C_1993

But then again, don't let the truth stop you, eh?  Big grin

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 31):
Now, answer this, who did more to stop Bin Laden?

Neither. He's still out there, and still a threat. But nice try.
 
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:38 am

Mr. Trump is just jumping on the bandwaggon ,, helps in Euopean TV market I would guess. He has no doubt profitted from the stong economy and the stabilty acheived here at home. Again , its easy to bitch about the President ... Its hard to see what good will come from action taken over the past 6 years. The world has changed , most of it looks bad right now. But the oposition to the President have only one choice now , admit defeat to Al Qada and pull out. If this happens , Mr Trump has alot to lose..

But Thanks Mr. Trump , just what the world needed ,.... another smack down on the President.
 
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:43 am

Quoting AGM100 (Reply 36):
The world has changed , most of it looks bad right now.

NO ! There have been some negative things in that time, but much looks much better right now ! Not least in civil aviation and international tourism where things are on the way UP. And an example. While all the programs of Arab countries and Arab airlines to promote traffic between the USA and the Arab World in 2001/2002 suddenly collapsed, things are now going ahead again. The economy is getting back into good order. No, most really looks quite nicely right now !  yes 
 
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:09 am

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 25):

1. Abraham LIncoln



Quoting MD-90 (Reply 25):
3. FDR

Dude, what have you been smoking?
 
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 5:54 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 35):
Maybe that's because, from everything I've seen, OBL wasn't responsible for that attack. In fact, those responsible were convicted.

Sure he didn't have any responsibility. Yep. Nothing at all. Right.


February 1992-February 7, 1995: Ramzi Yousef Spends Time at Bin Laden Guesthouse in PeshawarAccording to Pakistani investigators, Ramzi Yousef spends most of this time at the Beit Ashuhada guesthouse (translated as House of Martyrs) in Peshawar, Pakistan, which is funded by Osama bin Laden. US intelligence is aware of bin Laden's connection to this house and will publicly reveal this in 1996. [Central Intelligence Agency, 1996 ] Yousef will be arrested at another nearby bin Laden safe house in February 1995 (see February 7, 1995) with bin Laden's address found in his pocket. [London Times, 10/18/1997] During these years, Yousef takes long trips to the US in preparation of the WTC bombing (see February 26, 1993) and the Philippines, where several plots are developed (see January 6, 1995). He also uses an al-Qaeda influenced mosque in Milan, Italy, as a logistical base (see 1993-1997).


From the website.

You see Falcon, you and Clinton think alike. You bury your head in the sand and refuse to take a stand because its controversial, all under some delusion that were better off when there are no active "crisis" taking place. Sorry, in this world, we need to keep our eyes open to everyone everyday. If that stirs up controversy and we might be a little "less popular" in the world as a result, so be it. I for one would like to be on the offensive. Clinton and yourself like to hide behind the trees and hope nothing happens, which, eventually, it will. Hence, 9/11.
 
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:01 am

Trust Trump to state the obvious to get some press time:

Bush is a rotten President.

Rosie is fat.

What else is he going to say? The sky is blue? The grass is green?
 
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:13 am

Meh....if this came from any respectable business leader I might care, but none of those three words apply to the Donald.
 
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 6:24 am

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 39):
You bury your head in the sand and refuse to take a stand because its controversial

 rotfl 

When have you ever seen me NOT take a stand on anything? OBL was not named as a co-conspirator in that case; he was not indicted. It's all well and good to blame everything that goes bad on that scumbag-kind of like you and a host of other righties to to Clinton domestically-but you wanted a crisis created where non existed, and for what? Justifying your 20/20 hindsight? Sorry, the world ins't that black and white.

Well, we do have a leader who "created" a crisis, where none really existed, and we're up to our necks into it, and have been for over 3 years now. And you APPROVE of crap like that?
 
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:10 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 27):
I'm really interested in your answer so I can politely rip you apart on what you say. Big grin

Sorry, I have no time to correct ignorance these days.
 
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Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:47 am

Quoting ME AVN FAN (Reply 37):
The economy is getting back into good order. No, most really looks quite nicely right now !

I agree MAF, I can see it ... I see it all around the world. Although this is not all due to the President of course. He really does deserve more credit for leading the way in some respect.

Like I said , its very easy to bitch about the bad stuff , hard to see the positive
 
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RE: Trump: Bush Is Worst President In U.S History...

Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:58 am

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 43):

Sorry, I have no time to correct ignorance these days.

Or, you just don't want to be burned...
 
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RE: Trump: Bush Is Worst President In U.S History...

Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:36 am

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 42):
And you APPROVE of crap like that?

Again, Saddam Hussien and OBL are both powerless. One's dead, ones held up in a cave with no potentital to hurt anyone or anything except for some mouse running around his new house.

Yes, I DO APPROVE of that outcome. You, on the other hand, obviously disapprove of that fact, so you would rather have SH and OBL out there plotting against us. Humm.. Sounds exactly like what Bill Clinton would have done.
 
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RE: Trump: Bush Is Worst President In U.S History.

Mon Mar 19, 2007 8:50 am

In other news, the Earth is revolving around the Sun with a period of 365.25 days...

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 31):

Clinton did nothing to OBL and OBL did nothing to Clinton.
GWB tried to neutralize (for lack of a better term) OBL and OBL tried to neutralize GWB.
An eye for an eye.

edit: a little oversimplified perhaps, but that's basically how I see it.

[Edited 2007-03-19 02:11:23]
 
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RE: Trump: Bush Is Worst President In U.S History...

Mon Mar 19, 2007 9:24 am

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 46):
You, on the other hand, obviously disapprove of that fact, so you would rather have SH and OBL out there plotting against us.

Hopefully you are just pretending to be that stupid.

Why in the world is Bush better in fighting terrorism after 9/11 then Clinton? What did Clinton do after 9/11 ... oh ... wait.
IIRC, the FBI didn't issue arrest warrants against Mohamed Atta and others although there were hints indicating that an attempt to hijack an aircraft was imminent. And you know what, I don't even blame Bush for that.
 
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RE: Trump: Bush Is Worst President In U.S History...

Mon Mar 19, 2007 10:07 am

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 43):
Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 27):
I'm really interested in your answer so I can politely rip you apart on what you say. Big grin


Sorry, I have no time to correct ignorance these days

Excuse me, but the ignorance is yours. You posted it, and I challenged it. Don't think you can just fob off a query to what you said. Defend yourself, man.

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 46):
One's dead, ones held up in a cave with no potentital to hurt anyone or anything except for some mouse running around his new house.

Excuse me, but he was running around caves in Afghanistan when 9/11 happened. He knew even in the Taliban-controlled nation, he was a target. He isn't helpless even now, and you know it.

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 46):
Yes, I DO APPROVE of that outcome.

You approved of an outcome that has us stuck in an almost unwinnable situation in Iraq? You approve of more than 3000 American, and countless thousand Iraqi's dead? You approve of the fact that, because of our action, we have an Iraq now mired in daily, deadly turmoil? You approve of the fact that while Iraq burns, Iran becomes the threat in the region?

No wonder you're one of the few left supporting this president. He has botched up so much since 9/11 that it's sickening. Ad, fortunately, better late than never, most Americans don't approve of his presidency.

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 46):
You, on the other hand, obviously disapprove of that fact, so you would rather have SH and OBL out there plotting against us. Humm.. Sounds exactly like what Bill Clinton would have done.

And the pity is, you honestly believe such garbage, don't you? I do approve of Saddam being gone. The world is a better place without him. I do not approve of us launching this war, and how we've fucked up that nation so bad that it may never recover. I approved of the invasion of Afghanistan. I do not approve of the fact we took our eye off the real fight there, to go after President Bush's vendetta in Iraq, and, instead of maybe catching bin Laden, we took valuable resources to Iraq, where there was no crisis. It was, as you like to say a "created" crisis there.

And get over Bill Clinton. He hasn't been in the WH for 6 years, and he did not have the post-9/11 world to deal with. You have not a freaking clue what he, Al Gore, John Kerry, or anyone else, would have done, had they been in office after 9/11. I know this-we most likely wouldn't be bogged down in an almost hopeless situation in Iraq. Of that, I'm nearly certain.

[edited for typo]

[Edited 2007-03-19 03:26:15]

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